Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Paul Novitski
At 3/1/2007 02:32 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: I am in the process of converting my javascript library to nonobtrusive js. ... At 3/1/2007 06:44 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: I'll start with the easy one first: var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if (yr!=2003)document.write (copy; +yr); myplace

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Tim
On 02/03/2007, at 6:34 PM, Paul Novitski wrote: At 3/1/2007 02:32 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: I am in the process of converting my javascript library to nonobtrusive js. ... At 3/1/2007 06:44 AM, Bob Schwartz wrote: I'll start with the easy one first: var d=new Date();yr=d.getFullYear();if

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Bob Schwartz
Paul, I agree with you and as I am trying to learn this stuff I'm going one step at a time in the hopes that I can one day drop the crutches I needed an example of how to put a js string in a text string. The next step will be to try and figure out how (I have some examples that I am

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Michael Cordover
On 3/2/07, Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please generate the notice server-side -- or hard-code it into the html -- so it shows up for everyone viewing the content. In addition to Paul's technically valid note (with which I, a noscript user, wholeheartedly agree), there's also a legal

[WSG] Geoff Hall/BG/Health is out of the office.

2007-03-02 Thread Geoff . Hall
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Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Bob Schwartz
Paul, Unobtrusive javascript doesn't just mean separation of the script from the markup, it is also the use of javascript that doesn't break the page when scripting is disabled. http://onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/chapter1.html Further thoughts on this statement:

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Bob Schwartz
Michael, Thank you for the information. If we were in a perfect world it just might be reasonable to try and be as legal as possible, but reality is that the copyright notice is almost useless in that it only gives a (false) sense of protection, to actualy be protected is another matter.

Re: [WSG] unobtrusive js help

2007-03-02 Thread Bob Schwartz
Michael, Another point. All the sites I do have something in them updated at least once a year, so the copyright (current year) would reflect the year of last revision. On 3/2/07, Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please generate the notice server-side -- or hard-code it into the

[WSG] legal website policies for the UK and USA

2007-03-02 Thread Lisa B McLaughlin
Hello of band of web wizards! I am looking for a resource for current website legal requirements for the USA and UK. I did the typical Google search and found a site for the UK, but it's second-hand info. I don't have a definitive resource for the USA. Specially, I am looking to write privacy

Re: [WSG] legal website policies for the UK and USA

2007-03-02 Thread Tim
I have some legal links for each country on three review pages of UK USA and Australian government sites tested for W3C validity and accessibility, an ongoing study. USA websites tested some legal links and a brief target case summary.

Re: [WSG] legal website policies for the UK and USA

2007-03-02 Thread Tim
I forgot in Australia there is also: The Privacy Act Trade Practices Act Fitness for purpose (Assume it may mean legal compliance) The terrorism Act anything inciting violence In Victoria Australia The Racial and Religious Tolerance Act Ridicule of a religion or people six months jail Tim

Re: [WSG] Javascript to check for Handheld Devices

2007-03-02 Thread TuteC
Once I saw a Nokia trying to serve a wide (media=screen) CSS, I solved it using a media=handheld stylesheet, almost empty. It would be a problem if these little devices are trying to load the 'screen' sheet, do you have handheld specific defined sheets in your code? Sorry to ask, but if it

Re: [WSG] Content negotiated links: why so bad?

2007-03-02 Thread TuteC
That's what I do, and it's really swift of doing, even though you never saw an htaccess file. I use it, there are some disadvantages on server load but in my projects, I don't care. Well, it works as expected. Best regards, Eugenio Costa. On 3/1/07, Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or

Re: [WSG] Javascript to check for Handheld Devices

2007-03-02 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 2 Mar 2007, at 14:15:31, TuteC wrote: Once I saw a Nokia trying to serve a wide (media=screen) CSS, I solved it using a media=handheld stylesheet, almost empty. It would be a problem if these little devices are trying to load the 'screen' sheet, do you have handheld specific defined sheets

[WSG] Embedding XML in HTML

2007-03-02 Thread Kat
Gday, I don't understand what's going on: 1. I cannot find any xml element in the HTML 4.01 standard 2. I cannot find any reference to the datafld attribute for span. (Other than being reserved for possible future use: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/dtd.html) Both of these are mentioned

RE: [WSG] Embedding XML in HTML

2007-03-02 Thread Kepler Gelotte
Hi Kat, I you look at the article it states With *Internet Explorer*, the *unofficial* xml tag can be used to create an XML data island. Meaning this technique only works with Internet Explorer. According to the article: If you are running *IE 5.0 or higher*, you can try it yourself.. The example

[WSG] Doubled heights for menu in IE and a couple more

2007-03-02 Thread Elle Meredith
Hi, I have a couple of problems with my styles that break in IE and wanted to ask for help. 1. My main menu doubles the heights of the links in IE6. It's still functioning but it's not meant to look like that. 2. I also wanted to ask if you could have a look at the portfolio page and

Re: [WSG] Embedding XML in HTML

2007-03-02 Thread David Dorward
Kat wrote: 1. I cannot find any xml element in the HTML 4.01 standard There isn't one 2. I cannot find any reference to the datafld attribute for span. Ditto Both of these are mentioned on this W3Schools Insert obscenity due to their general level of quality being extremely low. XML

Re: [WSG] legal website policies for the UK and USA

2007-03-02 Thread Marghanita da Cruz
Lisa B McLaughlin wrote: Hello of band of web wizards! I am looking for a resource for current website legal requirements for the USA and UK. I did the typical Google search and found a site for the UK, but it's second-hand info. I don't have a definitive resource for the USA. Specially, I

[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE]

2007-03-02 Thread RBaggs
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[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE]

2007-03-02 Thread RBaggs
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[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE]

2007-03-02 Thread RBaggs
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[WSG] Fwd: Doubled heights for menu in IE and a couple more

2007-03-02 Thread Elle Meredith
I also wanted to ask if you could have a look at the portfolio page and help me make the styles for that section simpler. I used a definition list and floated the dt and dd to the left. This breaks in IE. Any ideas how to make it better, would be welcomed. The site is at:

ADMIN: THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE]

2007-03-02 Thread Lea de Groot
Handled! (and look! I didn't curse even once! ;)) Lea -- Lea de Groot Core Group Member On 2 Mar 2007 21:13:18 -0800, RBaggs wrote: Subject: Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE] to: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]