[WSG] Geo.Tagging?
Hello Fellow Standards Geeks! Im not the sharpest knife in the draw when it comes to stuff like Geo.Tagging, i have never needed a valid reason to use geo meta tags within any of my developments, although i have learn't recently that it can/may be a benefit when collecting results based on location. Anyway, back on track. Ive seen a number of ways to provide geo tags within Web Documents, but one that has struck me is the one by Dublin Core: http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-box/ Apart from Microformats, would this would seem to be the correct way of providing geo information within meta tags. Im not sure on how search engines spider for geo tags and what they like, and if the Dublin Core method is a lesser method to use, but the DCMI by far have more components to provide for geo locations, to my knowledge anyway. Id like to hear from anyone who has stronger knowledge of geo. tagging then i do. Kind Regards *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Geo.Tagging?
Quoting James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyway, back on track. Ive seen a number of ways to provide geo tags within Web Documents, but one that has struck me is the one by Dublin Core: http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-box/ Apart from Microformats, would this would seem to be the correct way of providing geo information within meta tags. DC is quite heavy-weight. I've always just used the GeoURL and GeoTag format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoTagging#Web_sites in conjunction. Not sure how search engines etc actually care about any of those METAs, though (this includes the DC method), but the way I see it they don't do any harm either (and there are some useful things that could be done with them, such as http://geourl.org or my own little Firefox GeoURL extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/530). P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!
This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example where this code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the code? I'm having a blank moment. Thanks. Joyce _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jixor - Stephen I Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:20 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! Jermayn, Use a content-disposition header to force a download so that the user doesn't have to have their browser potentially crippled by Acrobat and its easy to save for later viewing. Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf Jermayn Parker wrote: pdfs are not going to go away (and docs are not the answer) in Nielsons article (who is over rated and take his opinion with a grain of salt) he says pdfs are for print and I agree but for most Government websites they need these pdfs that we all hate and as I said in an earlier email html versions is not always an option. So the question remains how do we make a linked pdf presented and operational the best?? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 20/07/2007 10:08:52 am On 2007/07/19 11:23 (GMT+1000) Webb, KerryA apparently typed: Jermayn wrote: I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt agree more. And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a problem with PDFs per se. As a rule, I do. Most are apparently made by and for the people who design inaccessible mousetype web sites, not for normal or low vision web users. If that's an efficient and effective way to publish a document, let them Efficient and effective only from a publisher's perspective, not from a user's perspective. Pdfs are for printing. Ecologically aware people are not interested in killing trees just to get a little freely available information. do it - providing the PDF is properly marked up. It's rare that pdfs are published to be univerally accessible, so the end result is that as a group, pdfs are a scourge. Nielsen is too polite about it: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Floats Drifting
CK, I also see that you have fixed width header definitions within your percentage width floated divs. I think earlier versions of IE would widen the container to accommodate the inner widths, so your 40% width container would widen to 500px even if 500px was 90% of your browser screen. div#bd_secondary { background-color:#CC; float:right; width:40%; } div.innercontainers h3 { background-color:#FF; color:#66; padding:4px 0pt; text-align:left; width:500px; /* try 100% instead */ } div id=bd_secondary div id=bd_inner_01 class=innercontainers h3 About /h3 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Floats Drifting
HI, All attempts at supporting IE 5 seem futile. Is the percentage of users of IE 5 that great, to require these efforts? CK On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Kepler Gelotte wrote: CK, I also see that you have fixed width header definitions within your percentage width floated divs. I think earlier versions of IE would widen the container to accommodate the inner widths, so your 40% width container would widen to 500px even if 500px was 90% of your browser screen. div#bd_secondary { background-color:#CC; float:right; width:40%; } div.innercontainers h3 { background-color:#FF; color:#66; padding:4px 0pt; text-align:left; width:500px; /* try 100% instead */ } div id=bd_secondary div id=bd_inner_01 class=innercontainers h3 About /h3 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!
Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf Joyce Evans wrote: This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example where this code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the code? I’m having a “blank” moment. Thanks. You would put that in your server configuration (e.g. in Apache's httpd.conf or in an .htaccess file) P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Co-lead, Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ Take it to the streets ... join the WaSP Street Team http://streetteam.webstandards.org/ __ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] a question for Aussie
Hi, sorry for my post, and please kindly reply to me OFFLIST only. I need to send a package to Australia and must have it delivery no later than Tuesday 31st July, because I am paying for the delivery therefor would really like to save some money if possible, and I have the options for 2 days delivery and 3 - 5 days delivery, the cost for the 2 days delivery is double (not the cost of a cup of Latte but at least 20 cups :) ). The destination is St Ives, NSW. Had a look on Google Maps, it seems that the city isn't far from Sydney. Based on many of my international shipping experience, I know when a carrier says 3 - 5 days, it usually safely can reach the destination if it's a capital of the country or the large busy metropolitan city, in 3 days; if the place is a remote area, it may take another 3 - 5 days, so I am actually looking at 6 - 10 days delivery option. Question: How far is St Ives from Sydney, can it be reach within a day? Thank you and please reply Offlist, so that I don't annoy people more than I already have by posting this message. Sincerely, tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!
On Jul 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf Joyce Evans wrote: This seems to be a good idea. Could you please give an example where this code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the code? I’m having a “blank” moment. Thanks. You would put that in your server configuration (e.g. in Apache's httpd.conf or in an .htaccess file) I am curious: because browsers treat PDF differently, shouldn't it be better to provide an info for user to choose download or open new window for PDF with right click? With Safari, it's indeed irritating that PDF opens in the same window unless I right click my mouse for options; Firefox asks how I want to view the PDF file. Despite my passion for the use of PDF, I don't always want to download PDF from websites though, especially when there is no telling the link I am gonna to click is PDF or just a link. I don't think I like it much that the only option I have is download, some websites do exactly what you suggested, especially the Adobe, which forces to open up my Acrobat Professional even though I have specifically tell my browsers use Preview only for PDF. In the view of usability, I think this option falls short. tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***