[WSG] Geo.Tagging?

2007-07-23 Thread James Jeffery

Hello Fellow Standards Geeks!

Im not the sharpest knife in the draw when it comes to stuff like
Geo.Tagging, i have never needed a valid reason to
use geo meta tags within any of my developments, although i have learn't
recently that it can/may be a benefit when
collecting results based on location.

Anyway, back on track. Ive seen a number of ways to provide geo tags within
Web Documents, but one that has struck
me is the one by Dublin Core: http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-box/

Apart from Microformats, would this would seem to be the correct way of
providing geo information within meta tags.
Im not sure on how search engines spider for geo tags and what they like,
and if the Dublin Core method is a lesser
method to use, but the DCMI by far have more components to provide for geo
locations, to my knowledge anyway.

Id like to hear from anyone who has stronger knowledge of geo. tagging then
i do.

Kind Regards


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Re: [WSG] Geo.Tagging?

2007-07-23 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Quoting James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Anyway, back on track. Ive seen a number of ways to provide geo tags within
Web Documents, but one that has struck
me is the one by Dublin Core: http://dublincore.org/documents/dcmi-box/

Apart from Microformats, would this would seem to be the correct way of
providing geo information within meta tags.


DC is quite heavy-weight. I've always just used the GeoURL and GeoTag  
format http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoTagging#Web_sites in conjunction.


Not sure how search engines etc actually care about any of those  
METAs, though (this includes the DC method), but the way I see it they  
don't do any harm either (and there are some useful things that could  
be done with them, such as http://geourl.org or my own little Firefox  
GeoURL extension https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/530).


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RE: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!

2007-07-23 Thread Joyce Evans
This seems to be a good idea.  Could you please give an example where this
code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the code?  I'm
having a blank moment.  Thanks.  

 

Joyce 

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!

 

Jermayn,

Use a content-disposition header to force a download so that the user
doesn't have to have their browser potentially crippled by Acrobat and its
easy to save for later viewing.

Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf



Jermayn Parker wrote: 

pdfs are not going to go away (and docs are not the answer)
 
in Nielsons article (who is over rated and take his opinion with a
grain of salt) he says pdfs are for print and I agree but for most
Government websites they need these pdfs that we all hate and as I said
in an earlier email html versions is not always an option.
 
So the question remains how do we make a linked pdf presented and
operational the best??
 
 
 
 
  

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On 2007/07/19 11:23 (GMT+1000) Webb, KerryA apparently typed:
 
  

Jermayn wrote:


 
  

I work at one of the those government places that has those
  

horrible
  

pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt
  

agree
  

more.
  

 
  

And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a


problem
  

with PDFs per se.


 
As a rule, I do. Most are apparently made by and for the people who
design
inaccessible mousetype web sites, not for normal or low vision web
users.
 
  

If that's an efficient and effective way to publish a document, let


them
 
Efficient and effective only from a publisher's perspective, not from
a
user's perspective. Pdfs are for printing. Ecologically aware people
are not
interested in killing trees just to get a little freely available
information.
 
  

do it - providing the PDF is properly marked up.


 
It's rare that pdfs are published to be univerally accessible, so the
end
result is that as a group, pdfs are a scourge. Nielsen is too polite
about
it: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html 
  

 


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RE: [WSG] Floats Drifting

2007-07-23 Thread Kepler Gelotte


CK,

I also see that you have fixed width header definitions within your
percentage width floated divs. I think earlier versions of IE would widen
the container to accommodate the inner widths, so your 40% width container
would widen to 500px even if 500px was 90% of your browser screen.



div#bd_secondary {
background-color:#CC;
float:right;
width:40%;
}

div.innercontainers h3 {
background-color:#FF;
color:#66;
padding:4px 0pt;
text-align:left;
width:500px; /* try 100% instead */
}



div id=bd_secondary
div id=bd_inner_01 class=innercontainers

h3
About
/h3



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Re: [WSG] Floats Drifting

2007-07-23 Thread CK

HI,

All attempts at supporting IE 5 seem futile.  Is the percentage of  
users of IE 5 that great, to require these efforts?


CK
On Jul 23, 2007, at 12:33 PM, Kepler Gelotte wrote:




CK,

I also see that you have fixed width header definitions within your
percentage width floated divs. I think earlier versions of IE would  
widen
the container to accommodate the inner widths, so your 40% width  
container

would widen to 500px even if 500px was 90% of your browser screen.



div#bd_secondary {
background-color:#CC;
float:right;
width:40%;
}

div.innercontainers h3 {
background-color:#FF;
color:#66;
padding:4px 0pt;
text-align:left;
width:500px; /* try 100% instead */
}



div id=bd_secondary
div id=bd_inner_01 class=innercontainers

h3
About
/h3



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Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!

2007-07-23 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

 Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf

Joyce Evans wrote:
This seems to be a good idea.  Could you please give an example where 
this code would be placed on the web page or how it would fit into the 
code?  I’m having a “blank” moment.  Thanks. 


You would put that in your server configuration (e.g. in Apache's 
httpd.conf or in an .htaccess file)


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[WSG] a question for Aussie

2007-07-23 Thread Tee G. Peng

Hi, sorry for my post, and please kindly reply to me OFFLIST only.

I need to send a package to Australia and must have it delivery no  
later than  Tuesday 31st July, because I am paying for the delivery  
therefor would really like to save some money if possible, and I have  
the options for 2 days delivery and 3 - 5 days delivery, the cost for  
the 2 days delivery is double (not the cost of a cup of Latte but at  
least 20 cups :)  ). The destination is St Ives, NSW. Had a look on  
Google Maps, it seems that the city isn't far from Sydney. Based on  
many of my international shipping experience, I know when a carrier  
says 3 - 5 days, it usually safely can reach the destination if it's  
a capital of the country or the large busy metropolitan city, in 3  
days; if the place is a remote area, it may take another 3 - 5 days,  
so I am actually looking at 6 - 10 days delivery option.


Question: How far is St Ives from Sydney, can it be reach within a day?

Thank you and please reply Offlist, so that I don't annoy people more  
than I already have by posting this message.


Sincerely,

tee


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Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!

2007-07-23 Thread Tee G. Peng



On Jul 23, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:


 Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf

Joyce Evans wrote:
This seems to be a good idea.  Could you please give an example  
where this code would be placed on the web page or how it would  
fit into the code?  I’m having a “blank” moment.  Thanks.


You would put that in your server configuration (e.g. in Apache's  
httpd.conf or in an .htaccess file)





I am curious:  because  browsers treat PDF differently, shouldn't it  
be better to provide an info for user to choose download or open new  
window for  PDF with right click?


With Safari, it's indeed irritating that PDF opens in the same window  
unless I right click my mouse for options; Firefox asks how I want to  
view the PDF file. Despite my passion for the use of PDF, I don't  
always want to download PDF from websites though, especially when  
there is no telling the link I am gonna to click is PDF or just a link.


I don't think I like it much that the only option I have is download,  
some websites do exactly what you suggested, especially the Adobe,  
which forces to open up my Acrobat Professional even though I have  
specifically tell my browsers use Preview only for PDF. In the view  
of usability, I think this option falls short.



tee

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