Michael Horowitz wrote:
I would assume any professional developer will test any application they
currently support with IE 8 when it comes out. I'm sure I will get a
lot of business from new clients who need their sites updated to support
whatever changes MSFT makes.
But, since IE8 will by
On Jan 30, 2008 1:31 AM, Thomas Thomassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They don't want to default to IE8 rendering because of what happend with
IE7. It broke website. Not only that but IE is used so much outside the
browser as well. It's a platform. Intranet apps. HTA apps. Even help files
uses
Christian Snodgrass wrote:
It's more likely (assuming they get the info about the meta-tag out
there) that new sites will be developed using this meta-tag and
standards-compliance. Eventually, the old sites will be replaced with
new ones built in this fashion. Then, when they finally just
Thomas Thomassen wrote:
You don't have to modify every single HTML you publish. You can set the
HTTP header for HTML files on your server and off you go.
What I've yet to hear
from people who don't like the solution is a realistic alternative.
Letting the sites break is not an
Thomas Thomassen wrote:
You don't have to modify every single HTML you publish. You can set the HTTP header for HTML files on your server and off you go.
Don't forget the nasty gotcha: save that page on your own computer, load
it back up and suddenly it looks different (as the browser doesn't
Well, apart from that I don't like IE/win version targeting one bit, if
MSIE uphold this version targeting strategy in future versions, we may
as well use it to our advantage.
Sidelining IE/win while designing for standards and better browsers,
doesn't have to become a problem for designers or
One question that I have yet to see anyone ask is: How good will IE8
actually be?
If it is perfect, then there is no need to worry about future
versions...
I also haven't seen anyone mention the fact that we have yet to get rid
of IE5 completely - I know of at least one large organisation (not my
On Jan 29, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Casey Farrell wrote:
IE8 _will_ be the most popular web browser
it ain't necessarily so... first of all prevalent is not equivalent
to popular, but IE was not always the most prevalent browser, and is
once again losing some of the market share that it unfairly
It is the best solution they can come up with that won't destroy
everything that has been created in the past. Adding one line of code to
each of your pages is a lot more cost effective and time saving then all
of the hacks we currently have to do to get it to display properly in
IE6 and IE7.
On Jan 29, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Jermayn Parker wrote:
and then we will see the infamous pre-2000 days with websites reading:
This is best viewed using Internet Explorer 6
Would it be so bad if this was This site is best NOT viewed with
IE?? Come on - Let's not break the web - it's already
I think we will be able to 'ignore' IE7 way before IE6 due to Microsoft
being able to (presumably) force upgrades of IE7 to IE8, but still being
stuck with IE6 in the way we are now on older OS's.
Though IE8 rendering like IE7 by default means we will have to fix for
that And no doubt
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On 30 Jan 2008 at 11:25, Datatank wrote:
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Thomas Thomassen wrote:
You don't have to modify every single HTML you publish. You can set the
HTTP header for HTML
Not every site has a webdesigner constantly maintaining it. Retroactively
editing the millions of existing pages out there will cost an enourmouse
amount of money. Fitting a meta tag into existing documents isn't as easy as
implementing it into new ones.
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Thomas Thomassen wrote:
Not every site has a webdesigner constantly maintaining it.
Retroactively editing the millions of existing pages out there will cost
an enourmouse amount of money. Fitting a meta tag into existing
documents isn't as easy as implementing it into new ones.
Then change
By the sound of it, IE9 will default to IE7 for documents with proper strict
doctype and IE6 for documents with invalid or missing doctype. Just like
IE8.
Regarding what you said about X-IE9-Compatible, X-IE10-Compatible:
No, it would be
meta http-equiv=X-UA-Compatible content=IE=9 /
if the
Damn, this is the second time in the last two days I have replied to
something via the WSG instead of to the person I really meant to send
it to. Argghhh GMAIL!
Or perhaps its just silly user error... :)
Sorry everyone!!!
On Jan 30, 2008 3:47 PM, Mark Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Karl
Yes, I agree.
Part of our job is putting up with the stupidity that MS gives us and
making it work. We don't just get to say No, we won't support IE
anymore, at least, not if you plan on keeping clients.
Is this solution perfect? No. Is this solution acceptable? Yes. Could it
be worse? Hell
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On an Intel-based processor, you should be able to actually install
Windows onto a Mac machine. I've never personally tested this, but it
makes sense to me. If that is the case, then it will function just like
Windows on any other PC build, so you can run anything that you would
normally run.
Check out this: http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html
Tim MacKay wrote:
Hi List,
If this discussion is outside the scope of this group I apologize, I
know it was touched on a couple of weeks ago. Please email me off list
if you feel it’s more appropriate.
I’ve recently had my
Tim MacKay wrote:
Hi List,
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I have a few questions about the Windows environment on the
new Macs. Specifically, can I run things like Microsoft Visual Studio?
Flash Develop? Can I download and run .exe files? Is the Windows
environment on Macintosh a true Windows environment and is it
Chris Broadfoot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Both of them provide seamless (as much as it can be) integration between
OSX and Windows, however if you run Bootcamp, you'll be booted into
Windows and need a restart to get back into OSX.
Hi,
probably getting a little offtopic, and certainly too
On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 21:37:26 +1100, Andrew Freedman wrote:
Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type
http://www.bigbaer.com/css_tutorials/css.image.text.wrap.htm
Yah. DOCTYPE is XHTML 1.1, which should only be served as XML.
I suggest HTML 4.01 or XHTML 1.0 instead, unless you want to
Why sniff out browsers that accept XML? If the document is marked as XHTML
1.1 it should allways be sent as XML.
Though, I have seen people sniffing out browsers and using server side
scripting to change the doctype. XHTML 1.1 to browsers than supports it, and
XHTML 1.0 with the html mime to
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