Dear Chris,
The only way is to develop the website for the most use browsers, IE6, and
also respect the new softwares like FF and Safari browsers.
IE5 dont support a lot of CSS at all and its not wort trying to fic the
problem.
You are not god but tell the client to get a deascent browser in
I find it bad to have to rebuild my computer to have the opportunity to
have
a deascent set of standard browsers. Does my clients have the same setup??
I dont mean to be bad but having the most normal installation is for me
the target
and to have a smilar setup as a standard website visitor is
Hi Chris
The best thing to do is to download Multiple Ie and install it on your
machine. Quite small actually but really good to test.
http://tredosoft.com/Multiple_IE
Fuji
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:46 AM, chris | chrisbuttery.com <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I'm relatively new to
On 08-May-08, at 11:16 AM, chris | chrisbuttery.com wrote:
Do you have older browsers handy to test them with?
Yes, and now you can too [1]! Multiple IEs allows you to run copies of
various versions of IE, going all the way back to IE3. I have noticed
that conditional comments do _not_ wor
Hi everyone,
My first post also... Have a look at http://browsershots.org/ It's not
perfect as it generates only static pics but there are a lot of browsers
covered...
chris | chrisbuttery.com wrote:
Hi All,
I'm relatively new to this group & this is my first post. So here goes.
My questi
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 6:46 AM, chris | chrisbuttery.com <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My question to you guys is how do you develop & test your websites to
> ensure they are interpreted correctly
> by older more popular browsers ? Do you have older browsers handy to test
> them with?
>
Run mul
Hi Chris,
In some cases customers are locked into to using a particular browser
because of the Standard Operating Environment within their company. If
this isn't the case, you should try and convince your customer to
upgrade to a newer browser.
Other than that, if you have access to a com
As a web designer, you should test your website in both current and older
browser versions (within reason!) - and get your friends to look at it on
their systems as well. This will help you see if there are colour
inconsistencies as well as coding ones. Unless you are designing for an
intranet and
Michael Persson wrote:
I resinstalled my work computer some months ago and I had a technical
person to do this because we have a deal, Yes he installed all programs i
needed and also IE7 ONLY!!!. Stupid me didnt made him understand i need
IE6 to make websites for the most of the internet audience
Our contract that is signed by the client informs them of what versions we
program for.
We also ask what browser the vlient is using - i.e 5 is very very old and
we never support it.
On Thu, 08 May 2008 15:46:54 +1000, chris | chrisbuttery.com
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi All,
I'm rela
Hi All,
I'm relatively new to this group & this is my first post. So here goes.
I just had an issue where i developed a prototype site for a client that
worked perfectly across several browsers
(IE7, Firefox, Opera, Safari & Netscape).
The client sent me a screen shot of the site taken from th
Yeah, I think we all are aware of these small problems and i have faced
them also producing standard websites for a french company that had IE5.5
a a standard browser... haha
We cant expect other non professionals to have the same settings, latest
installations and technical experience as us.
I
reply
On Thu, 08 May 2008 14:42:40 +1000, David Hucklesby
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:36:55 +1000, IceKat wrote:
I have a list menu which is supposed to be horizontal and centered. Not
a problem
right? Wrong. There are three problems.
1. IE7 doesn't use display: in
On Sun, 04 May 2008 12:36:55 +1000, IceKat wrote:
>
> I have a list menu which is supposed to be horizontal and centered. Not a
> problem
> right? Wrong. There are three problems.
> 1. IE7 doesn't use display: inline very well when text is enlarged or made
> smaller.
> (just try it and see the me
Michael MD wrote:
>
> also - don't assume everyone's browser has flash player.
> eg: mobile phones - some of the more recent models *might* have a
"mobile
> flash player" ... which btw might handle flash 6 content! - ok maybe
an
> iPhone can do better .. but honestly how many of those do you see
On 4 May 2008, at 12:57, tee wrote:
I'd just noticed that Firefox skips the dropdown and multi-select
list with tabbing.
Anybody knows if there is a workround?
I assume you are using a Mac?
Go into the OS X System Preferences, then Keyboard & Mouse, then
Keyboard and set Full keyboard a
On 7 May 2008, at 14:54, Scott Limmer wrote:
Using the tabindex attribute on form elements should allow you to
specify the tab order.
This shouldn't help, and is likely to add confusion if there is
anything on the page other than form controls.
--
David Dorward
http://dorward.me.uk/
htt
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of IceKat
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 3:48 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Centered Horizontal List in IE7
>
> Hey,
>
> Sent this out, wondering if anyone has any pointers???
Usin
Using the tabindex attribute on form elements should allow you to specify
the tab order.
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 9:57 PM, tee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd just noticed that Firefox skips the dropdown and multi-select list
> with tabbing.
> Anybody knows if there is a workround?
>
> Thanks!
>
Perhaps try it without using the list. Center the links within a div and
apply left and right padding to them to ensure adequate spacing. Menu should
stay centered and will cater for changing number of menu items.
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:48 PM, IceKat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Sent t
Michael Persson wrote:
Do we still want the money to produce their website or do we say no
because we are web standard freaks and would never touch such a
bad usability and accessibilty project dirty money hahaha..
Well would we...??
If all they want is eye candy give it to them and take the
As i started this thred i will also close it and sum the results.
I find that we, professionals on wen development are mostly
negative to the full flash publishing and also have a attitide
that standards are able to implement.
What do we do when a client wants flash and dont really understand
th
On May 7, 2008, at 12:03 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote:
people think it doesn’t matter what a site looks like as long as it
is accessible.
Sadly true. But in fact "what a site looks like" can have a huge
impact on its accessibility. I think that notion stems from a rather
misplaced notion
On 2008/05/05 23:15 (GMT+0300) Michael Persson apparently typed:
> What do you people, professionals and hobby standardists think about full
> flash websites??
OK for people whose priorities lie in form rather than substance, but
generally no small impediment for many others. Flash players do not
On 07-May-08, at 4:18 PM, IceKat wrote:
I have a list menu which is supposed to be horizontal and centered.
Does this work for you?
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal27.htm
Best,
- Rahul.
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List Guidelines: h
Hey,
Sent this out, wondering if anyone has any pointers???
IceKat
Original Message:
Hi everyone,
I'm really hoping someone can help me with this bug. I've known
about it for a while but am hoping that now that IE7 has been around
for a while that a smarter person than me will ha
Only resort to flash if what you want is impossible with plain old html and
some javascript thrown in. And if you use flash, make sure there's an
alternative. I think this page:
http://www.schiphol.nl/toekomst/
...is a good example of just that. Just turn off javascript and see what
happens.
**
>
> iPhone can do better
does'nt support flash :)
2008/5/7 Michael MD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> some BIG usability NO-NOs I see on a lot of flash sites.
>
> intro pages (one of my pet hates - I HATE waiting ... and I'm sure I'm not
> the only one! - they are pointless and should be BANNED! - if
some BIG usability NO-NOs I see on a lot of flash sites.
intro pages (one of my pet hates - I HATE waiting ... and I'm sure I'm not
the only one! - they are pointless and should be BANNED! - if you reallly
*must* then make sure there is a non-flash way to skip it)
animations in navigation - yes
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