[WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict

2008-12-15 Thread Anthony Milner
Glad to report that I've found a .NET site that validates XHTML 1.0 strict
(hat tip to Craig Bailey
http://www.craigbailey.net/live/post/2008/12/14/Microsoft-Oxite-coverage.aspx
for
leading me to it.)

It's the Mix Online site which is built on a Microsoft Open Source CMS
platform (yes you read that right Microsoft and open source in the same
sentence, I was also surprised) called Oxite. http://visitmix.com/

Oxite is still in beta and is built on the MVC platform which appears to be
a good news story for building .NET web standards compliant websites.

Anthony

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 Subject: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict

 Hi,

 I was having a *chat* with some .NET developer colleagues and they
 challenged me to find a .NET site that achieves XHTML 1.0 strict
 compliance. Hoping to prove to them that it can be done.

 Does anybody know of some .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict (or even
 transitional)?

 Thanks,
 Anthony


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Re: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict

2008-12-15 Thread David Lane
Great to see that someone has finally helped MS technologies adhere to
the standards that the open source world has supported for years now.  A
step in the right direction, deserving congratulations, but only a small
step.

Although Oxite may be open source in the strictest sense of the term,
being .Net based it has dependencies on the MS Windows platform, so it's
still dependent on expensive proprietary software...  For those aspiring
to support .Net on other platforms (e.g. efforts like Mono and
Moonlight), let's not forget Microsoft's patent infringement threats on
Linux and other open source software.  

Ultimately, open source or not, anything .Net-based exists at the
discretion of Microsoft's legal team.  When MS release a CMS under the
GNU General Public License (the GPL is the prevalent open source license
that is, essentially, share and share alike), then I'll be impressed,
because doing so would mean that they've agreed to waive software
patents on that code.  

Personally, given the outstanding quality and maturity of fully open
source alternatives (Plone, Drupal, Alfresco, Joomla, MySourceMatrix and
many others), Oxite probably only a good option for people who've
already got a massive sunk cost on MS infrastructure.  For everyone
else, the open source stacks (LAMP/Zope/Tomcat, etc.) and platforms
(Linux, *BSD, OpenSolaris) are where the action is. 

Kind regards,

Dave 

On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 10:27 +1100, Anthony Milner wrote:
 Glad to report that I've found a .NET site that validates XHTML 1.0
 strict (hat tip to Craig Bailey
 http://www.craigbailey.net/live/post/2008/12/14/Microsoft-Oxite-coverage.aspx 
 for leading me to it.) 
  
 It's the Mix Online site which is built on a Microsoft Open Source CMS
 platform (yes you read that right Microsoft and open source in the
 same sentence, I was also surprised) called Oxite.
 http://visitmix.com/
  
 Oxite is still in beta and is built on the MVC platform which appears
 to be a good news story for building .NET web standards compliant
 websites. 
  
 Anthony
  
  -Original Message-
  From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org
 [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
  On Behalf Of Anthony Milner
  Sent: 08 October 2008 03:23
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict
 
  Hi,
 
  I was having a *chat* with some .NET developer colleagues and they
  challenged me to find a .NET site that achieves XHTML 1.0 strict
  compliance. Hoping to prove to them that it can be done.
 
  Does anybody know of some .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict (or
 even
  transitional)?
 
  Thanks,
  Anthony
 
 
 
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2008-12-15 Thread simon.murray
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