Re: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Nick Lo

I am working on a very bad implementation of a site. My job is to
improve it for the timebeing, while we are developing a new standard
site. Now the issue is with the payment system with the Paypal. I need
to put in shipping cost for the products bought from here..
http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/voip/v35?SQ_PAINT_LAYOUT_NAME=runout&SQ_DESIGN_NAME=runout

the hidden value says name="no_shipping"/>,


where can i find the right list of the attributes.. as i did try
 but didnt work.


Sounds like you sent this to the wrong mailing list? It doesn't sound  
like a web standards related question.


Cheers,

Nick


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[WSG] Re: WSG Digest

2009-06-21 Thread phil . houghton
Thank you for your email.

I am out of the office until the 29th. I will be checking my email 
intermittently until then.

If you have an urgent support query, please send an SMS to the support number 
you have been given and I'll respond as soon as possible.

Best regards,

Phil Houghton
Managing Director, Dreamberry Design Ltd




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RE: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Steve Eagleson
The site appears to have been generated from a package or template. I'm
guessing that this was MySource Matrix, but I don't see any info on PayPal
integration on their site. Do you have the original application or
documentation? If so, you might contact them or PayPal.   

As this is for no_shipping, have you tried putting in value="0"?


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Behalf Of Nick Lo
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:36 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

> I am working on a very bad implementation of a site. My job is to
> improve it for the timebeing, while we are developing a new standard
> site. Now the issue is with the payment system with the Paypal. I need
> to put in shipping cost for the products bought from here..
>
http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/voip/v35?SQ_PAINT_LAYOUT_NAME=runout&SQ_D
ESIGN_NAME=runout
>
> the hidden value says  name="no_shipping"/>,
>
> where can i find the right list of the attributes.. as i did try
>  but didnt work.

Sounds like you sent this to the wrong mailing list? It doesn't sound  
like a web standards related question.

Cheers,

Nick


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RE: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Steve Eagleson
>From the PayPal site at
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content&content_ID=developer/
e_howto_html_Appx_websitestandard_htmlvariables#id08A6HH0D0TA

no_shipping is an optional attribute, which deals with shipping addresses.
Allowable values are:

0 - prompt for an address, but do not require one
1 - do not prompt for an address
2 - prompt for an address, and require one

The default is 0.



-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Nick Lo
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:36 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

> I am working on a very bad implementation of a site. My job is to
> improve it for the timebeing, while we are developing a new standard
> site. Now the issue is with the payment system with the Paypal. I need
> to put in shipping cost for the products bought from here..
>
http://www.netcomm.com.au/products/voip/v35?SQ_PAINT_LAYOUT_NAME=runout&SQ_D
ESIGN_NAME=runout
>
> the hidden value says  name="no_shipping"/>,
>
> where can i find the right list of the attributes.. as i did try
>  but didnt work.

Sounds like you sent this to the wrong mailing list? It doesn't sound  
like a web standards related question.

Cheers,

Nick


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[WSG] web page and style sheet problems still

2009-06-21 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi.
put the - and did not have sans-serif, but had sanserif.
and now what is the correct colour code.
internet explorer 8.
not reading properly with jaws 10.
so might have to contact freedom scientific and see what they have to say 
about this.
and not detecting the table on the front page, even though i have it there.
so wonder if it could be a internet explorer 8 issue.
post this to the list as well.
cheers Marvin.
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Re: [WSG] Ecomm using Paypal

2009-06-21 Thread Nathan de Vries

On 19/06/2009, at 4:17 PM, Rohini Goyal wrote:

...where can i find the right list of the attributes...


Not really a web standards question, but if you do a search on the PDN  
you'll find this page [1] which outlines all the variables available  
and the expected values.



Cheers,

Nathan de Vries

[1] https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/pdn/howto_checkout-outside


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Re: [WSG] web page and style sheet problems still

2009-06-21 Thread Matijs
Hey Marvin,
>From what I've always learned, it's best to make the table a bit more
explicit including tbody, tfoot and thead tags. You can also define
colgroups.

What do you mean when you say that Internet Explorer 8 + Jaws doesn't see
your table?

Regards,

Matijs

On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

> hi.
> put the - and did not have sans-serif, but had sanserif.
> and now what is the correct colour code.
> internet explorer 8.
> not reading properly with jaws 10.
> so might have to contact freedom scientific and see what they have to say
> about this.
> and not detecting the table on the front page, even though i have it there.
> so wonder if it could be a internet explorer 8 issue.
> post this to the list as well.
> cheers Marvin.
> E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com
>  Msn: startrekc...@msn.com
>  Skype: startrekcafe
> Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/
> E-Mail: startrekc...@gmail.com
>  Msn: startrekc...@msn.com
>  Skype: startrekcafe
> Visit my Jaws Australia Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/
>
>
>
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[WSG]

2009-06-21 Thread William Donovan
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[WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Marvin Hunkin
hi.
just looked at my fonts.
need the following fonts:

arial, helvitica, sans-serif and verdana.
do not have these fonts for windows vista.
think that was the problem, why not saying the name.
can you help?
where do i get these free fonts from?
cheers Marvin.
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Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Tim Snadden


On 22/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:


hi.
just looked at my fonts.
need the following fonts:

arial, helvitica, sans-serif and verdana.
do not have these fonts for windows vista.
think that was the problem, why not saying the name.
can you help?


Hi Marvin - I'm going to assume that you are running Windows. If this  
is the case then it is *highly* unlikely that you don't have at least  
arial from that list. The other thing to bear in mind is that 'sans- 
serif' is not a font but is a style or family of fonts that share a  
particular look (they don't have 'serifs' which are little flicks at  
the end of letter forms).


I haven't seen your actual code but if your HTML is correctly pointing  
to a CSS file and your CSS is using a valid font declaration then it  
should work. If it doesn't then there may be something up with your  
operating system thinking that fonts are in a different place to where  
they really are or maybe something up with your Jaws setup.


When you specify fonts with CSS the usual pattern is to list your  
fonts in the order that you prefer. Each one is a fallback position if  
the prior one doesn't exist on the system. Normally the last one in  
the list is 'sans-serif' (or 'serif' etc.). This is essentially saying  
that if you don't have *any* of the listed fonts on the system then  
use whatever is the default 'sans-serif' font.


I hope that helps. Tim


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Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Joshua Street
Adding to what Tim said,
It's possible that you're experiencing problems with Helvetica just because
of a typo (you had written Helvitica). Also, it does not come with Windows
Vista or Microsoft Office.

Hope this helps!

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Tim Snadden  wrote:

>
> On 22/06/2009, at 3:58 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
>
>  hi.
>> just looked at my fonts.
>> need the following fonts:
>>
>> arial, helvitica, sans-serif and verdana.
>> do not have these fonts for windows vista.
>> think that was the problem, why not saying the name.
>> can you help?
>>
>
> Hi Marvin - I'm going to assume that you are running Windows. If this is
> the case then it is *highly* unlikely that you don't have at least arial
> from that list. The other thing to bear in mind is that 'sans-serif' is not
> a font but is a style or family of fonts that share a particular look (they
> don't have 'serifs' which are little flicks at the end of letter forms).
>
> I haven't seen your actual code but if your HTML is correctly pointing to a
> CSS file and your CSS is using a valid font declaration then it should work.
> If it doesn't then there may be something up with your operating system
> thinking that fonts are in a different place to where they really are or
> maybe something up with your Jaws setup.
>
> When you specify fonts with CSS the usual pattern is to list your fonts in
> the order that you prefer. Each one is a fallback position if the prior one
> doesn't exist on the system. Normally the last one in the list is
> 'sans-serif' (or 'serif' etc.). This is essentially saying that if you don't
> have *any* of the listed fonts on the system then use whatever is the
> default 'sans-serif' font.
>
> I hope that helps. Tim
>
>
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[WSG] Questions about browser renderings (CSS 2.1)

2009-06-21 Thread Grant Bailey
Hello,

I'm hoping that some of you experts can answer three questions about
browser renderings of certain elements.


Question 1
--
I'm developing a page with a liquid layout that adapts to displays of
various sizes; the page can be viewed at www.baileyandireland.com. The
page renders as expected in all browsers except Opera, which is having a
problem with the following CSS rule (refer to line 65 of the style
sheet, Home.css):

max-width: 50em;

This rule is applied to a division called div_Main_content. The problem
is that this division is being rendered about 2ems short of what it
should be, as you can clearly see if you open the web page (index.css)
in Opera. I'm surprised, since an earlier division of the page (called
subdiv_Unit_title), which has the same rule applied (line 46 in the
style sheet), behaves as expected.

Could someone please advise me whether this problem constitutes a bug in
Opera.


Question Two

Is anyone aware of restrictions in use of the 'overflow' property,
specifically, whether browsers are supposed to interpret 'overflow' to
cut off nested divisions? In the style sheet referenced above
(Home.css), I have a wrapper division called div_Content that encloses
all other content in the html file. If you apply the 'overflow: hidden'
rule to div_Content (i.e. include line 27 of Home.css, currently
commented out), only the first nested division (div_Banner) is
displayed; the two sibling divisions of div_Banner (called
div_Table_of_contents and div_Main_content respectively) are ignored.
All of the browsers I have tried (Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Safari)
display in the same way.

I cannot understand this behaviour as the height of div_Content has not
been restricted. Could someone please explain what is going on.


Question Three
--
I have applied the rule 'outline: thin solid black;' to the body element
in order to see how each browser renders the body. All except Firefox
place the divisions div_Table_of_contents and div_Main_content outside
the body box (as I would expect as these divisions are absolutely
positioned), whereas Firefox contains both divisions within the body
box.

Could someone please advise whether this is an error in Firefox's
rendering of the page.

Many thanks and regards,

Grant Bailey



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Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Mark Harris

Joshua Street wrote:

Adding to what Tim said,

It's possible that you're experiencing problems with Helvetica just 
because of a typo (you had written Helvitica). Also, it does not come 
with Windows Vista or Microsoft Office.




However, If your user has it installed and doesn't have Arial installed 
(unlikely, even on a Mac), then text styled with this will appear in 
Helvetica font. The reason these towo are often associated is that they 
are visually similar and readily available. If neither are available, 
the browser will display the text in whatever sans serif font first 
appears listed on the client system.


My personal feeling is that trying to specify fonts beyond "serif" and 
"sans serif" is such a crapshoot that I never bother.


~mark



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Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Henry Mencia
Mark,

 So you just have serif or sans serif  in the font-family?

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Mark Harris  wrote:

> Joshua Street wrote:
>
>> Adding to what Tim said,
>>
>> It's possible that you're experiencing problems with Helvetica just
>> because of a typo (you had written Helvitica). Also, it does not come with
>> Windows Vista or Microsoft Office.
>>
>>
> However, If your user has it installed and doesn't have Arial installed
> (unlikely, even on a Mac), then text styled with this will appear in
> Helvetica font. The reason these towo are often associated is that they are
> visually similar and readily available. If neither are available, the
> browser will display the text in whatever sans serif font first appears
> listed on the client system.
>
> My personal feeling is that trying to specify fonts beyond "serif" and
> "sans serif" is such a crapshoot that I never bother.
>
> ~mark
>
>
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Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-21 Thread Mark Harris

Henry Mencia wrote:

 So you just have serif or sans serif  in the font-family?



Pretty much, unless a client specifies otherwise (and I'll try to talk 
them around).


The biggest cost I have seen in web design since 1996, when I started, 
is the perceived need to make the web like the printed page. That, and 
the desire to make it pixel-identical in multiple browsers.


Let the control go to the user, focus on getting information out there. 
You can't control everything, just make it make sense.


I do test in multiple browsers, but only to make sure I haven't put some 
dumb hack in to fix a problem in one, that breaks something somewhere else.




~mark


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