RE: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
I find that Russ's list and that of Laura Carlson usually provide something useful each week. thanks Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
Forget about tr. You can set border-spacing to zero, and make padding-bottom (top, whatever) for free space, but in this case borders would be attached to inside divs. Or you can make tr with blank td tags (or colspan, again whatever). I suggest to use inside divs with styles (margin for 5 pixel padding...). 2009/9/23 tee weblis...@gmail.com It never occurs to me I cannot do something like this. I need each tr with borders and a margin-top to separate each tr, then a 5 pixel padding inside the tr so that the td's border doesn't touch the tr, but I can't get it working. http://lotusfromthemud.com/table/tr.html The image below the table is the exact layout I needed. Is this possible? tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] my site
That's great to learn more, Marvin. Good luck you then. And cheers too :) 2009/9/23 Marvin Hunkin startrekc...@gmail.com hi. well. did this for a course a couple of years ago. and got legal use to use all the images. so want to put this up on a site. as a port folio of my student web projects. got a number of projects. which trying to find the owners of images and get their permission. like a world war ii veterans club site, a soccer club site, mens wear store site, a child's flea circus. so will go and take your suggestions for the fruit shop site. and put lists. for the links. then will get rid of the second nav menu. and the images. it was just for sighted users. so will go and look at those tutorials. how to design and redesign the site with the css, and the java script. thanks for your help. then a more slicker, more accessible site. and will use the vision australia colour tool. to try to get the best solution for sighted and blind users. cheers Marvin. ps: not so stubborn after all. and did pass this subject and the course. so updating the projects. to get around legal copyright issues. Marvin. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice
If you're using a h3 inside a list, I kind of expect a h2 and a h1 to precede that... Is it really necessary to use a h3 or could you just style an ol or ul in the appropriate way? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I have an ordered list that needs the items to be alphabetized and have lines in between the items that will be subheadings within the list BUT also need to NOT take a letter. Is there a best practice on trying to accomplish the desired look? (examples below) Here is the code with no validation issues but the two lines with Subheading will get a letter (not desired): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol In the following list I get the desired results in the browser but does not validate,(The tag:div is not allowed within: ol): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol I appreciate any advice, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
Indeed. Spot on Captain! Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Technical Writer, Opera Software Documentation Localization Core Engineering Consumer Products Mobile: (+47) 95 17 61 11 http://dev.opera.com/articles/accessibility/ On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, lisa.kerri...@iird.vic.gov.au wrote: me too! fabulous stuff Lisa Kerrigan | Manager Content User Experience www.business.vic.gov.au; www.diird.vic.gov.au ' +61 3 9651 9176 8 lisa.kerri...@diird.vic.gov.au Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development Level 31, 121 Exhibition Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3000. Chris F.A. Johnson ch...@cfajohnson To .com wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent by: cc li...@webstandard sgroup.orgSubject Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts 23/09/2009 03:15 PM Please respond to w...@webstandardsg roup.org On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, nedlud wrote: I second that. On the other hand, after looking at a few of the links the first few times I received those messages, I now delete them unseen. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown susi...@uq.edu.auwrote: Hi there I?d just like to send a big thank you to Russ Weakley for taking the time to collate and send this to WSG Announce each week! I always find really interesting stuff there, and usually bookmark a couple of links from it. So, thanks Russ ? it?s really appreciated! -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** * Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development,Government of Victoria, Victoria, Australia. This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you may not distribute reproduce this e-mail the attachments. If you have received this message in error, please notify us by return e-mail. *- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice
Hi Kevin, Headings in lists will validate. However as Matijs says all you need to do is style the list elements and remove the divs. Kevin Work in progress includes: http://www.hotel-france-hotels.com http://www.hotels-uk-accommodation.co.uk ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li class=margin_left_minus_40pxbSubheading/b/li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li class=margin_left_minus_40pxbSubheading/b/li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol From: Matijs Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:31 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice If you're using a h3 inside a list, I kind of expect a h2 and a h1 to precede that... Is it really necessary to use a h3 or could you just style an ol or ul in the appropriate way? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I have an ordered list that needs the items to be alphabetized and have lines in between the items that will be subheadings within the list BUT also need to NOT take a letter. Is there a best practice on trying to accomplish the desired look? (examples below) Here is the code with no validation issues but the two lines with Subheading will get a letter (not desired): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol In the following list I get the desired results in the browser but does not validate,(The tag:div is not allowed within: ol): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol I appreciate any advice, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
Thanks everyone for kind words! Remember, you can email me any time if you have events, resources, new applications, articles or links you want to share/pimp etc :) Thanks Russ On 23/09/2009, at 5:43 PM, Frank Palinkas wrote: Indeed. Spot on Captain! Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Technical Writer, Opera Software Documentation Localization Core Engineering Consumer Products Mobile: (+47) 95 17 61 11 http://dev.opera.com/articles/accessibility/ On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, lisa.kerri...@iird.vic.gov.au wrote: me too! fabulous stuff Lisa Kerrigan | Manager Content User Experience www.business.vic.gov.au; www.diird.vic.gov.au ' +61 3 9651 9176 8 lisa.kerri...@diird.vic.gov.au Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development Level 31, 121 Exhibition Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3000. On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, nedlud wrote: I second that. On the other hand, after looking at a few of the links the first few times I received those messages, I now delete them unseen. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown susi...@uq.edu.auwrote: Hi there I?d just like to send a big thank you to Russ Weakley for taking the time to collate and send this to WSG Announce each week! I always find really interesting stuff there, and usually bookmark a couple of links from it. So, thanks Russ ? it?s really appreciated! -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
I also second that. It's become a part of my routine whenever the links come in to comb through them and check out what's going on right now regarding CSS and HTML techniques. :-) On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.auwrote: Thanks everyone for kind words! Remember, you can email me any time if you have events, resources, new applications, articles or links you want to share/pimp etc :) Thanks Russ On 23/09/2009, at 5:43 PM, Frank Palinkas wrote: Indeed. Spot on Captain! Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Technical Writer, Opera Software Documentation Localization Core Engineering Consumer Products Mobile: (+47) 95 17 61 11 http://dev.opera.com/articles/accessibility/ On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, lisa.kerri...@iird.vic.gov.au wrote: me too! fabulous stuff Lisa Kerrigan | Manager Content User Experience www.business.vic.gov.au; www.diird.vic.gov.au ' +61 3 9651 9176 8 lisa.kerri...@diird.vic.gov.au Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development Level 31, 121 Exhibition Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3000. On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, nedlud wrote: I second that. On the other hand, after looking at a few of the links the first few times I received those messages, I now delete them unseen. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown susi...@uq.edu.auwrote: Hi there I?d just like to send a big thank you to Russ Weakley for taking the time to collate and send this to WSG Announce each week! I always find really interesting stuff there, and usually bookmark a couple of links from it. So, thanks Russ ? it?s really appreciated! -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
I third that, those links for light reading are one of the best sources of information I get. Thanks Russ! From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Jason Grant Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 11:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts I also second that. It's become a part of my routine whenever the links come in to comb through them and check out what's going on right now regarding CSS and HTML techniques. :-) On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Russ Weakley r...@maxdesign.com.aumailto:r...@maxdesign.com.au wrote: Thanks everyone for kind words! Remember, you can email me any time if you have events, resources, new applications, articles or links you want to share/pimp etc :) Thanks Russ On 23/09/2009, at 5:43 PM, Frank Palinkas wrote: Indeed. Spot on Captain! Med vennlig hilsen / Kind regards, Frank M. Palinkas Technical Writer, Opera Software Documentation Localization Core Engineering Consumer Products Mobile: (+47) 95 17 61 11 http://dev.opera.com/articles/accessibility/ On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 7:52 AM, lisa.kerri...@iird.vic.gov.aumailto:lisa.kerri...@iird.vic.gov.au wrote: me too! fabulous stuff Lisa Kerrigan | Manager Content User Experience www.business.vic.gov.auhttp://www.business.vic.gov.au; www.diird.vic.gov.auhttp://www.diird.vic.gov.au ' +61 3 9651 9176 8 lisa.kerri...@diird.vic.gov.aumailto:lisa.kerri...@diird.vic.gov.au Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development Level 31, 121 Exhibition Street, Melbourne, Victoria 3000. On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, nedlud wrote: I second that. On the other hand, after looking at a few of the links the first few times I received those messages, I now delete them unseen. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Susie Gardner-Brown susi...@uq.edu.aumailto:susi...@uq.edu.auwrote: Hi there I?d just like to send a big thank you to Russ Weakley for taking the time to collate and send this to WSG Announce each week! I always find really interesting stuff there, and usually bookmark a couple of links from it. So, thanks Russ ? it?s really appreciated! -- Chris F.A. Johnson, webmaster http://woodbine-gerrard.com === Author: Shell Scripting Recipes: A Problem-Solution Approach (2005, Apress) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.orgmailto:memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Jason Grant BSc, MSc CEO, Flexewebs Ltd. www.flexewebs.comhttp://www.flexewebs.com ja...@flexewebs.commailto:ja...@flexewebs.com +44 (0)7748 591 770 Company no.: 5587469 www.flexewebs.com/semantixhttp://www.flexewebs.com/semantix www.twitter.com/flexewebshttp://www.twitter.com/flexewebs www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebshttp://www.linkedin.com/in/flexewebs *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
I would go so far as to say that these links have given me more knowledge than any other source of information I've encountered. I'm indebted to Russ! Bob Gwelanmor Internet *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
Well said, couldn't agree more. :) Thanks again Russ. On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 12:58 PM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote: I would go so far as to say that these links have given me more knowledge than any other source of information I've encountered. I'm indebted to Russ! Bob Gwelanmor Internet *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Clare Warburton cla...@gmail.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[Spam] :Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
Hi Tee,
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From: tee weblis...@gmail.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 12:04 AM
Subject: [WSG] a table layout issue
It never occurs to me I cannot do something like this.
I need each tr with borders and a margin-top to separate each tr, then a
5 pixel padding inside the tr so that the td's border doesn't touch the
tr, but I can't get it working.
http://lotusfromthemud.com/table/tr.html
The image below the table is the exact layout I needed.
Is this possible?
tee
Is the good old cellspacing any use? e.g.:
style type=text/css
#grid{width : 600px; border : 1px solid #aaa; margin : 0 auto;}
#grid td{text-align : center; border-right : 1px solid #aaa; }
.noborder{border : none!important;}
/style
/head
body
table id=grid cellspacing=5
tr
tdSkirt
/td
tdsize
/td
tdprice
/td
td class=nobordercolour
/td
/tr
tr
tdshort
/td
td10
/td
td£22
/td
td class=noborderred
/td
/tr
/table
That seems to work, unless I'm missing the point?
Bob
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RE: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
Thank you Russ! Much appreciated here as well!!! Kevin From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Susie Gardner-Brown Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:03 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts Hi there I'd just like to send a big thank you to Russ Weakley for taking the time to collate and send this to WSG Announce each week! I always find really interesting stuff there, and usually bookmark a couple of links from it. So, thanks Russ - it's really appreciated! Cheers susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice
Yes there is an H2 and H1 that proceeds. Thanks. From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matijs Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice If you're using a h3 inside a list, I kind of expect a h2 and a h1 to precede that... Is it really necessary to use a h3 or could you just style an ol or ul in the appropriate way? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I have an ordered list that needs the items to be alphabetized and have lines in between the items that will be subheadings within the list BUT also need to NOT take a letter. Is there a best practice on trying to accomplish the desired look? (examples below) Here is the code with no validation issues but the two lines with Subheading will get a letter (not desired): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol In the following list I get the desired results in the browser but does not validate,(The tag:div is not allowed within: ol): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol I appreciate any advice, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice
Thank you! But unfortunately the subheading lines there would steal a letter, (i.e. B and E in your list). I am trying to avoid that. So on this subject, I am with Paul, who commented that I need to break it up with sub lists: ol li ol li a /li li b /li li c /li /ol h3 subhead /h3 ol li d /li li e /li /ol /li /ol From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kevin Ireson Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 6:08 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice Hi Kevin, Headings in lists will validate. However as Matijs says all you need to do is style the list elements and remove the divs. Kevin Work in progress includes: http://www.hotel-france-hotels.com http://www.hotels-uk-accommodation.co.uk ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li class=margin_left_minus_40pxbSubheading/b/li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li class=margin_left_minus_40pxbSubheading/b/li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol From: Matijs mailto:mat...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:31 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Ordered List Best Practice If you're using a h3 inside a list, I kind of expect a h2 and a h1 to precede that... Is it really necessary to use a h3 or could you just style an ol or ul in the appropriate way? On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 4:40 PM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) kevin.erick...@doe.virginia.gov wrote: Hi, I have an ordered list that needs the items to be alphabetized and have lines in between the items that will be subheadings within the list BUT also need to NOT take a letter. Is there a best practice on trying to accomplish the desired look? (examples below) Here is the code with no validation issues but the two lines with Subheading will get a letter (not desired): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div /li lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol In the following list I get the desired results in the browser but does not validate,(The tag:div is not allowed within: ol): ol type=A lia href=a.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=b.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=c.pdfFirst/a/li div class=margin_left_minus_40px h3Subheading/h3 /div lia href=d.pdfFirst/a/li lia href=e.pdfFirst/a/li /ol I appreciate any advice, Kevin *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [Spam] :Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
Hi Bob, Thanks for the suggestion. Your use is to have the border in table and this doesn't work though because it can't create a border for each tr row and a margin to separate each row. Using border-collapse: collapse in table I can get the borders for tr. CSS-D had a discussion back in 2006 . http://archivist.incutio.com/viewlist/css-discuss/72271 I added your code to the example page, you can see it here: http://lotusfromthemud.com/table/tr.html Savl's suggestion also doesn't work. It's not ideal to add extra div in each td cell, though I can live with it if client insists the layout must be stayed as it is, the fact is, it doesn't quite work as it adds a border on each td cell, and in the layout, it has 5 td cells, using border-top (or bottom) on each td cell won't really give me the result. I am ready to tell client technically this can't be done but this issue really struck me as it didn't occur to me a layout that simple can't be done with a table. Now it's more a personal quest than fulfilling client's requirement. tee That seems to work, unless I'm missing the point? Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
Great stuff! Thank you! Much appreciated. I don't know what I'd do without it. Fred *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [Spam] :Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
I am ready to tell client technically this can't be done but this issue really struck me as it didn't occur to me a layout that simple can't be done with a table. Now it's more a personal quest than fulfilling client's requirement. http://rimantas.com/bits/table/ Of course you may need to replace some advanced selectors with classes for some lesser browsers. I've tested with Safari 4, Firefox 3.5 and Opera 10 on OS X only. I do not claim this is the best way to do this, but it is one of the possible ways to go. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
Savl's suggestion also doesn't work. It's not ideal to add extra div in each td cell, though I can live with it if client insists the layout must be stayed as it is, the fact is, it doesn't quite work as it adds a border on each td cell, and in the layout, it has 5 td cells, using border-top (or bottom) on each td cell won't really give me the result. Hi Tee, I made an example that looks the way you described and validates: http://www.coolphptools.com/tests/tr.html There is no escaping the inner div's because margin doesn't seem to apply to td's. At least this will get you the format you want. Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
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Re: [WSG] a table layout issue
There is a way - make table in td. Something like table trtd table style=margin: 0.5em trtd/td/trtrtd/td/tr - ...etc. /table /td/tr ... /table Hi Tee, I made an example that looks the way you described and validates: http://www.coolphptools.com/tests/tr.html There is no escaping the inner div's because margin doesn't seem to apply to td's. At least this will get you the format you want. Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
