Re: [WSG] media queries can't understand body tag

2011-10-05 Thread Frances de Waal 
Sorry, I missed the replies in this thread, I didn't intend to be unresponsive. 
Indeed it is only Safari as far as I can see that loads all the background 
images at once, but that seems to include also iOS, so quite a big group of 
mobile users. Maybe this will be improved in iOS 5.

Bye,
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Op 27 sep 2011, om 23:33 heeft Hassan Schroeder het volgende geschreven:

> On 9/27/11 1:42 PM, Frances de Waal wrote:
> 
>> As far as I know all the stylesheets ánd all the linked resources in them 
>> like background-images
>> will be loaded with meadia-queries. So I am afraid that the large background 
>> image that you try
>> to avoid for mobiles, will be loaded anyway as long as you try to solve this 
>> with media-queries.
> 
> What are you basing this on?
> 
> A quick test in Chrome and Firefox on OS X and Chrome on an old G1
> Android phone, at least, shows that *not* to be true; a background
> image is only loaded for the rule that matches the applicable media-
> query. You can watch the logs (or developer console) and see other
> images fetched as you resize the browser.
> 
> What browsers/platforms have you tested where this doesn't work?
> 
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[WSG] Can some of the HTML5 elements be used more than once?

2011-10-05 Thread tee 
I can't find any info if it's OK to use some of the HTML5 elements more than 
once. 

What I have in mind, in a ecommerce site which has 3 columns layout, in which 
left/right side columns are used for reports (e.g., recently view, upsell, 
related products, poll or newsletter etc...). 


So can I have?





p/s. I know I can do something like below but for layout/design consideration, 
this may not be the best approach sometimes.








Similarly, can nav element be used twice? One for cateogries menu, and one for 
general menu that is used for Customer Service, FAQ sort of the pages.

Thanks!

tee

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Re: [WSG] Can some of the HTML5 elements be used more than once?

2011-10-05 Thread Kristaps Ancāns 
 and  CAN be used more than once.
for example you can have  in  and at the same time you can have
it in .

the same applies for  - you can have to sidebars  and at the same time you can have 
inside of .

also remember that  and  needs to have heading element inside
(otherwise the  or  will be Untitled), which will create more
proper structure for your document. (sorry, can't described precisely what
i'm meaning)

good tool to outline your HTML5 document -
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/afoibpobokebhgfnknfndkgemglggomo (for
Chrome of course)

:)



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On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:44, tee  wrote:

> I can't find any info if it's OK to use some of the HTML5 elements more
> than once.
>
> What I have in mind, in a ecommerce site which has 3 columns layout, in
> which left/right side columns are used for reports (e.g., recently view,
> upsell, related products, poll or newsletter etc...).
>
>
> So can I have?
>
> 
> 
> 
>
> p/s. I know I can do something like below but for layout/design
> consideration, this may not be the best approach sometimes.
>
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Similarly, can nav element be used twice? One for cateogries menu, and one
> for general menu that is used for Customer Service, FAQ sort of the pages.
>
> Thanks!
>
> tee
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Re: [WSG] Can some of the HTML5 elements be used more than once?

2011-10-05 Thread Frances de Waal 
Hi Tee,

You can have multiple semanticle HTML5 elements like header, article, section, 
, footer, aside and nav elements in one webpage. It all depends on it if you 
want to give the content a semantical meaning, if so, use the corresponding new 
elements. Only if the box is for other purposes like layout, div is the one to 
use. As welcome as the elements are, I find that it also often leads to quite a 
puzzle sometimes to have a clear and logic use of them. 

Frances 

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Op 5 okt 2011, om 12:44 heeft tee het volgende geschreven:

> I can't find any info if it's OK to use some of the HTML5 elements more than 
> once. 
> 
> What I have in mind, in a ecommerce site which has 3 columns layout, in which 
> left/right side columns are used for reports (e.g., recently view, upsell, 
> related products, poll or newsletter etc...). 
> 
> 
> So can I have?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> p/s. I know I can do something like below but for layout/design 
> consideration, this may not be the best approach sometimes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Similarly, can nav element be used twice? One for cateogries menu, and one 
> for general menu that is used for Customer Service, FAQ sort of the pages.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> tee
> 
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Re: [WSG] Can some of the HTML5 elements be used more than once?

2011-10-05 Thread tee 
Thank you both. Much appreciated.

The HTML5 Outliner is great!

tee

On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:06 AM, Frances de Waal wrote:

> Hi Tee,
> 
> You can have multiple semanticle HTML5 elements like header, article, 
> section, , footer, aside and nav elements in one webpage. It all depends on 
> it if you want to give the content a semantical meaning, if so, use the 
> corresponding new elements. Only if the box is for other purposes like 
> layout, div is the one to use. As welcome as the elements are, I find that it 
> also often leads to quite a puzzle sometimes to have a clear and logic use of 
> them. 
> 
> Frances 
> 
> www.waalweb.nl
> www.smartscripts.nl
> Zelfstudiehandboek Websites Ontwikkelen met HTML, CSS en Dreamweaver
> WaalWeb | Halfweg, Noord-Holland | KvK 34350833
> 
> Op 5 okt 2011, om 12:44 heeft tee het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> I can't find any info if it's OK to use some of the HTML5 elements more than 
>> once. 
>> 
>> What I have in mind, in a ecommerce site which has 3 columns layout, in 
>> which left/right side columns are used for reports (e.g., recently view, 
>> upsell, related products, poll or newsletter etc...). 
>> 
>> 
>> So can I have?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> p/s. I know I can do something like below but for layout/design 
>> consideration, this may not be the best approach sometimes.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Similarly, can nav element be used twice? One for cateogries menu, and one 
>> for general menu that is used for Customer Service, FAQ sort of the pages.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> tee
>> 
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Re: [WSG] Can some of the HTML5 elements be used more than once?

2011-10-05 Thread Jon @ The PixelForge 
For what it's worth, you can use more than one H1 tag too - the semantic use
would be for each section, perhaps for each article's title.

I think that should move use of the h1 tag from the logo/title to what it
should be used for; headlines, not page titles.

Regards,

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On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 12:38 PM, tee  wrote:

> Thank you both. Much appreciated.
>
> The HTML5 Outliner is great!
>
> tee
>
> On Oct 5, 2011, at 4:06 AM, Frances de Waal wrote:
>
> > Hi Tee,
> >
> > You can have multiple semanticle HTML5 elements like header, article,
> section, , footer, aside and nav elements in one webpage. It all depends on
> it if you want to give the content a semantical meaning, if so, use the
> corresponding new elements. Only if the box is for other purposes like
> layout, div is the one to use. As welcome as the elements are, I find that
> it also often leads to quite a puzzle sometimes to have a clear and logic
> use of them.
> >
> > Frances
> >
> > www.waalweb.nl
> > www.smartscripts.nl
> > Zelfstudiehandboek Websites Ontwikkelen met HTML, CSS en Dreamweaver
> > WaalWeb | Halfweg, Noord-Holland | KvK 34350833
> >
> > Op 5 okt 2011, om 12:44 heeft tee het volgende geschreven:
> >
> >> I can't find any info if it's OK to use some of the HTML5 elements more
> than once.
> >>
> >> What I have in mind, in a ecommerce site which has 3 columns layout, in
> which left/right side columns are used for reports (e.g., recently view,
> upsell, related products, poll or newsletter etc...).
> >>
> >>
> >> So can I have?
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >> p/s. I know I can do something like below but for layout/design
> consideration, this may not be the best approach sometimes.
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>
> >> Similarly, can nav element be used twice? One for cateogries menu, and
> one for general menu that is used for Customer Service, FAQ sort of the
> pages.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> tee
> >>
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