Re: [WSG] Flash Professional Accessibility With Jaws

[Chad Kelly]

On 12/13/2011 1:35 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

Hi.
well maybe andrew kirk patrick can shed light.
the only inaccessible program in the adobe cs 5.5 web premium, apart 
from the drawing programs, fireworks, illustrator, photo shop, cs 5.5 
flash professional.

not really that accessible.

Frankly I am not surprised.
All those tools you mention are made mostly anyway for graphic designers 
and front end developers.
In other words they are all visual tools that are designed for making 
visual presentations.

You should not need to use any of them for web development.


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[WSG] Flash Professional Accessibility With Jaws

[Marvin Hunkin]

Hi.
well maybe andrew kirk patrick can shed light.
the only inaccessible program in the adobe cs 5.5 web premium, apart 
from the drawing programs, fireworks, illustrator, photo shop, cs 5.5 
flash professional.

not really that accessible.
and i had to do a lot of jaws cursuring to create a new flash 
professional document.

and think i created it.
but not the most accessible.
unless, this for animation.
so any accessibility tips, for this application, fireworks, illustrator, 
photo shop for a totally blind web site developer student.

Marvin.


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Re: [WSG] domain help

[MJ Ray]

"ryan" 
> a new customer was having problems with their domain not displaying with
> their current host
> 
> www.pipetechnorthwest.com
> 
> all I can find out is that its linked to www.dallamore.com

What host is their current host?

I don't know what this has to do with webstandardsgroup, so maybe
we should take this off-list?

I see you have the whois.  Here's the DNS and web info:

Trying "www.pipetechnorthwest.com"
www.pipetechnorthwest.com. 14400 IN CNAME   pipetechnorthwest.com.
pipetechnorthwest.com.  14400   IN  A   69.175.35.2

2.35.175.69.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer rsx34.justhost.com.

Location: http://www.pipetechnorthwest.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi   
Account Suspended

This Account Has Been Suspended

Looks like their account with justhost or whoever resells that host
there has been suspended?

Hope that informs,
-- 
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http://koha-community.org supporter, web and library systems developer.
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[WSG] domain help

[ryan]

Hi all 

a new customer was having problems with their domain not displaying with
their current host

 

www.pipetechnorthwest.com

 

all I can find out is that its linked to www.dallamore.com

 

WHOIS information for pipetechnorthwest.com :

[Querying whois.verisign-grs.com]
[Redirected to whois.enom.com]
[Querying whois.enom.com]
[whois.enom.com]
=-=-=-=
Visit AboutUs.org for more information about pipetechnorthwest.com
 
 

Domain name: pipetechnorthwest.com
 
Administrative Contact:
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Re: [WSG] w3c mobile validator and html5?

[Phil Archer]

Hi Nancy,

On 12/12/2011 20:25, Nancy Johnson wrote:

Thanks,

I love the more graphical layout and organization putting critical
issues on top.


Yes, that's a good feature. There's a half-made plan to use the same 
design for the main validator but it's a big job.


[..]


I have been moving image sizing to the style sheet and not left inline..


NNo!!! That's one thing that the mobile checker is definitely good 
for - stopping this bad practice of using CSS to define the size of an 
image and, even worse, using CSS to resize the image.


W3C Best Practice: http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/#IMAGES_SPECIFY_SIZE

My take on it: http://philarcher.org/diary/2011/phpimageadaptation/

HTH

Phil.




On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Phil Archer  wrote:


On 12/12/2011 17:28, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:


On 12/12/2011 17:18, Nancy Johnson wrote:


I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2. Is
it going to checking again html5? http://validator.w3.org/mobile/



Not to my knowledge, no. You could argue that it's aimed at older
generations of phones/browsers.



We (W3C) have been discussing this issue. The mobile checker is an
implementation of the mobileOK Basic Tests [1] which is the machine testable
subset of the Mobile Web Best Practices [2]. As long as that is true we
have:

- a checker rooted firmly in a specification - which is a good thing;
- a checker that is growing old and, as is obvious, increasingly out of date
- which is a bad thing.

If we were to update the checker to, for example, cover HTML5 or any other
technology (CSS3, SVG or whatever) then how would we root that in a spec? It
becomes a dynamic system without a reference point.

Now - since a lot of work went in to the checker (and the specs behind it)
and it's a potentially useful tool, we don't want to lose it. However, we
would need some sort of community effort to determine what the checker would
check. There's also an issue of cost - maintaining the validation suite
means writing new code.

For now, I think we can say that the mobileOK checker is a useful guide. A
lot of the best practices are still entirely valid. Taken with the Mobile
Web Applications Best Practices [3] they form good advice to any mobile
developer. However, it does need some interpretation - which is a pity.

For example, the checker will warn you if you don't use the
application/xhtml+xml MIME type. If you're coding in HTML5 that's simply
wrong and I haven't seen an instance where there's an advantage in using the
XHTML MIME type.

The checker will scream at you if you don't include cache control or image
dimensions - those are very much right!






What about media queries... Is the mobile checker suitable for if
you are creating one set of htmls code and for mulitple devices?



No.



I'd say not yet.  What we need is the mechanism for how to manage change and
how to effect change in the checker. Keep nagging us - that might help us
get it higher on the agenda.

HTH

Phil.





[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/mwabp/


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Re: [WSG] w3c mobile validator and html5?

[Nancy Johnson]

Thanks,

I love the more graphical layout and organization putting critical
issues on top.

The checker told me a number of very useful things like my page size
is too large,  not to use event handlers I went and found a
wai-aria model that I think will work instead..

I have been moving image sizing to the style sheet and not left inline..

Take care,

Nancy Johnson


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Phil Archer  wrote:
>
> On 12/12/2011 17:28, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
>>
>> On 12/12/2011 17:18, Nancy Johnson wrote:
>>>
>>> I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2. Is
>>> it going to checking again html5? http://validator.w3.org/mobile/
>>
>>
>> Not to my knowledge, no. You could argue that it's aimed at older
>> generations of phones/browsers.
>
>
> We (W3C) have been discussing this issue. The mobile checker is an
> implementation of the mobileOK Basic Tests [1] which is the machine testable
> subset of the Mobile Web Best Practices [2]. As long as that is true we
> have:
>
> - a checker rooted firmly in a specification - which is a good thing;
> - a checker that is growing old and, as is obvious, increasingly out of date
> - which is a bad thing.
>
> If we were to update the checker to, for example, cover HTML5 or any other
> technology (CSS3, SVG or whatever) then how would we root that in a spec? It
> becomes a dynamic system without a reference point.
>
> Now - since a lot of work went in to the checker (and the specs behind it)
> and it's a potentially useful tool, we don't want to lose it. However, we
> would need some sort of community effort to determine what the checker would
> check. There's also an issue of cost - maintaining the validation suite
> means writing new code.
>
> For now, I think we can say that the mobileOK checker is a useful guide. A
> lot of the best practices are still entirely valid. Taken with the Mobile
> Web Applications Best Practices [3] they form good advice to any mobile
> developer. However, it does need some interpretation - which is a pity.
>
> For example, the checker will warn you if you don't use the
> application/xhtml+xml MIME type. If you're coding in HTML5 that's simply
> wrong and I haven't seen an instance where there's an advantage in using the
> XHTML MIME type.
>
> The checker will scream at you if you don't include cache control or image
> dimensions - those are very much right!
>
>
>
>>
>>> What about media queries... Is the mobile checker suitable for if
>>> you are creating one set of htmls code and for mulitple devices?
>>
>>
>> No.
>
>
> I'd say not yet.  What we need is the mechanism for how to manage change and
> how to effect change in the checker. Keep nagging us - that might help us
> get it higher on the agenda.
>
> HTH
>
> Phil.
>
>>
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
> [2] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/
> [3] http://www.w3.org/TR/mwabp/
>
>
> --
>
> Phil Archer
> W3C eGovernment
> http://www.w3.org/egov/
>
> http://philarcher.org
> @philarcher1
>
>
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Re: [WSG] w3c mobile validator and html5?

[Phil Archer]

On 12/12/2011 17:28, Patrick H. Lauke wrote:

On 12/12/2011 17:18, Nancy Johnson wrote:

I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2. Is
it going to checking again html5? http://validator.w3.org/mobile/


Not to my knowledge, no. You could argue that it's aimed at older
generations of phones/browsers.


We (W3C) have been discussing this issue. The mobile checker is an 
implementation of the mobileOK Basic Tests [1] which is the machine 
testable subset of the Mobile Web Best Practices [2]. As long as that is 
true we have:


- a checker rooted firmly in a specification - which is a good thing;
- a checker that is growing old and, as is obvious, increasingly out of 
date - which is a bad thing.


If we were to update the checker to, for example, cover HTML5 or any 
other technology (CSS3, SVG or whatever) then how would we root that in 
a spec? It becomes a dynamic system without a reference point.


Now - since a lot of work went in to the checker (and the specs behind 
it) and it's a potentially useful tool, we don't want to lose it. 
However, we would need some sort of community effort to determine what 
the checker would check. There's also an issue of cost - maintaining the 
validation suite means writing new code.


For now, I think we can say that the mobileOK checker is a useful guide. 
A lot of the best practices are still entirely valid. Taken with the 
Mobile Web Applications Best Practices [3] they form good advice to any 
mobile developer. However, it does need some interpretation - which is a 
pity.


For example, the checker will warn you if you don't use the 
application/xhtml+xml MIME type. If you're coding in HTML5 that's simply 
wrong and I haven't seen an instance where there's an advantage in using 
the XHTML MIME type.


The checker will scream at you if you don't include cache control or 
image dimensions - those are very much right!






What about media queries... Is the mobile checker suitable for if
you are creating one set of htmls code and for mulitple devices?


No.


I'd say not yet.  What we need is the mechanism for how to manage change 
and how to effect change in the checker. Keep nagging us - that might 
help us get it higher on the agenda.


HTH

Phil.





[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/mobile-bp/
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/mwabp/


--

Phil Archer
W3C eGovernment
http://www.w3.org/egov/

http://philarcher.org
@philarcher1


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Re: [WSG] Wamp, Accessibility, How To Reset Passwords In My Sql

[Doug Burt]

Marvin,
Although this goes way off topic for this forum, the localhost password 
you've got there should be "root" and the password "pwd".
When the form asks for the server write "localhost", and if that fails use 
"host" and you should be in. There isn't a password for localhost,
that is unless you've done a very strange install and going away from the 
wamp install lines. Good luck mate...

DougB

- Original Message - 
From: "Marvin Hunkin" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 8:47 PM
Subject: [WSG] Wamp, Accessibility, How To Reset Passwords In My Sql



hi.
doing a website development course from http?wsi.tafensw.edu.au, and doing 
php.

and the lecturers are on vacation.
so, working my way through this subject.
and so up to inserting data into a database, using php and my sql, in a 
form.

now.
got this stupid error, which i will paste below.
and my code.
and the form.
can any one help?
getting a access denied localhost and password error.
how do i fix this?
using wamp server 2.2.
bagning my head, looked up google, and tried to update my sql server, in 
the my sql command line prompt.

tried to clear the cache, but no success.
can any one help me out.
so what code, or what sql commands do i need to use, and where?
using wamp server, and looked in the php my admin, my database is there, 
with the table i created.

so, just totally frustrated.
if any one can help.
let me know.
Marvin.
ps: the lecturers are on vacation till early febuary.
would like an answer to my problem.
using windows 7 professional, 32 bit, jaws 13, using wamp server 2.2, my 
sql 5.5.16, php 5.35, latest version.

can any one help.
so how to reset the password for the local host.
that is what i am looking for.
just totally frustrated.
rewrote the code for this weeks exercise from my lecturer a few times, but 
still giving me the error.

and learning, php, and my sql.
can any one help?
this is giving me a migrain.
Marvin, from Devonport, Tasmania, Australia.
if any aussies on the list, maybe can give me a hand.

$dbOK=@mysql_select_db($database, $connection) or die ("Unable to select 
db");
$sql = "INSERT INTO tperson (firstname, lastname, phone, dateofbirth) 
VALUES ('$firstname', '$lastname', '$phone', '$dateofbirth')";
$result = mysql_query($sql, $connection) or die ("Error in query: 
".mysql_error());

mysql_close();
?>

ps: will http://localhost/FifthPHP/Data.php

table with 5 columns and 5 rows
( ! ) Warning: mysql_connect() [
function.mysql-connect]:
Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) in 
C:\wamp\www\FifthPHP\Data.php on line 10

Call Stack
#
Time
Memory
Function
Location
1
0.0006
373088
{main}( )
..\Data.php:0
2
0.0006
373768
mysql_connect
 ( )
..\Data.php:10
table end

Unable to select db

ps:: will paste the html form code below as well.



Person Details



Firstname: 
Lastname: 
Phone: 
Date Of Birth : 






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Re: [WSG] w3c mobile validator and html5?

[Patrick H. Lauke]

On 12/12/2011 17:18, Nancy Johnson wrote:

I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2.  Is
it going to checking again html5?  http://validator.w3.org/mobile/


Not to my knowledge, no. You could argue that it's aimed at older 
generations of phones/browsers.



What about media queries...   Is the mobile checker suitable for if
you are creating one set of htmls code and  for mulitple devices?


No.

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[WSG] w3c mobile validator and html5?

[Nancy Johnson]

I noticed this validator only checks for xhtml 1.1 basic or mp1.2.  Is
it going to checking again html5?  http://validator.w3.org/mobile/
What about media queries...   Is the mobile checker suitable for if
you are creating one set of htmls code and  for mulitple devices?

Thanks,

Nancy


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RE: [WSG] Database Success

[Nick Brown]

Hey Marvin - I'm not convinced this is the best forum for you to be posting
these sorts of queries - why don't you try Stack Overflow - I've never found
a better site for answering technical questions.

N

-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin
Sent: 12 December 2011 08:16
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Database Success

hi.
well.
how do i reset the password.
and how to do it in the my sql command line.
possibly my database could be screwed up or some thing.
did get it to work.
and now.

and just looked in the database script nad it added my name and my phone
number.
several times.
so how to delete the number of times, so i only have my name once.
so it is working.
in another script, and another folder.
so it is working.
Marvin.
ps: sorry for bothering you guys.
so how to remove multiple entries in my database.
or just copy it over from the other folder.
which has the default.
then try running the script.
then i get the access denied.
but when i look in the other php scrip, in a folder called FourthPHP, it
added the record to the database.
it is working.
minus, the date.
and in the database, not showing the date.
so my learning purposes, it is working.
Marvin.Marvin.


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[WSG] Database Success

[Marvin Hunkin]

hi.
well.
how do i reset the password.
and how to do it in the my sql command line.
possibly my database could be screwed up or some thing.
did get it to work.
and now.

and just looked in the database script nad it added my name and my phone 
number.

several times.
so how to delete the number of times, so i only have my name once.
so it is working.
in another script, and another folder.
so it is working.
Marvin.
ps: sorry for bothering you guys.
so how to remove multiple entries in my database.
or just copy it over from the other folder.
which has the default.
then try running the script.
then i get the access denied.
but when i look in the other php scrip, in a folder called FourthPHP, it 
added the record to the database.

it is working.
minus, the date.
and in the database, not showing the date.
so my learning purposes, it is working.
Marvin.Marvin.


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