Re: [WSG] IE/Win vs IE/Mac

2004-05-21 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
Wrote by two completely different teams of programmers, with different mentalities. They actually share very little in common with each other, other than the name that is. On May 20, 2004, at 09:51, Mordechai Peller wrote: You would figure, one company, one logic, one set of bugs. But no!

Re: [WSG] Safari on x86

2004-05-21 Thread Michael Donnermeyer
You'd be better off buying a cheap mac to test on. The PearPC thing is full of bugs and slower than a dead turtle (talk about slow!). From what I've seen, it 1/500th the speed of your current processor. On May 20, 2004, at 04:42, Ralph wrote: Hi all.. I hope this is not too off topic.. But I

RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Hill, Tim
Just a quick note on the new article on digital web mag, by Peter-Paul Koch. Mentions something interesting about his disapproval of the suckerfish dropdowns, and combining JS and CSS (3/4 down the page under Separation). http://www.digital-web.com/articles/separating_behavior_and_presentation /

Re: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Neerav
As Inspector Gadget would say ... WOWSERS! -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Kay Smoljak wrote: Just in case you haven't seen it yet, there's a new version of the famous Suckerfish menus: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ They've added

[WSG] Testing in multiple versions of Safari

2004-05-21 Thread Hugh Todd
Don't know if this has occurred to other Mac users, but the revised Suckerfish menus have prompted me to post this to the list. (Later versions of Safari seem to cope well with both versions of the Suckerfish menus, but Safari 1.0 has problems, more with the earlier than the version on HTML

Re: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Neerav
Some brief tests of http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/example/vertical.html Win IE 4 - only the 1st level menu items display and theyre very widely spaced Win IE 5.01 - on mouseover the menu jumps all over the place Win IE 5.5 - Works fine Win IE 6 - works fine Still a

Re: [WSG] Safari on x86

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Blown
That's what we did. We have one little lonely eMac in our office for browser testing and other Mac related development projects. It was a necessary upgrade since the old Power PC 7200/120 just couldn't cope anymore. Chris On Fri, 2004-05-21 at 16:19, Michael Donnermeyer wrote: You'd be better

RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Nick Cowie
Neerav wrote: Still a laudable piece of work but the individual decision to not have a working menu for IE 4/5 and design for the future must be made. But if you stick to the horizontal menu (which works well in IE5) and use the @import to hide the relevant CSS from version 4 browsers

RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus Or as Mr Bell would say, DING DONG! Jamie Mason: Design (Ps- oh no...what have I done?) -Original Message- From: Neerav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 May 2004 07:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

[WSG] Suckerfish Galore!

2004-05-21 Thread Patrick Griffiths
Thanks very much for the comments on the Suckerfish Dropdowns article. There are now more Suckerfish articles up on HTML Dog that explain how you can mimic :hover, :active, :focus and even :target for some interesting results: http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/ I've been putting last

Re: [WSG] IE/Win vs IE/Mac

2004-05-21 Thread Mordechai Peller
Michael Donnermeyer wrote: Wrote by two completely different teams of programmers, with different mentalities. They actually share very little in common with each other, other than the name that is. I know. It was a rant in which I should have hit delete rather than send. What inspired it was a

Re: [WSG] Suckerfish Galore!

2004-05-21 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El vie, 21-05-2004 a las 12:11, Patrick Griffiths escribió: Thanks very much for the comments on the Suckerfish Dropdowns article. There are now more Suckerfish articles up on HTML Dog that explain how you can mimic :hover, :active, :focus and even :target for some interesting results:

[WSG] Testing in multiple versions of Safari

2004-05-21 Thread Hugh Todd
Don't know if this has occurred to other Mac users, but the revised Suckerfish menus have prompted me to post this suggestion to the list. (Later versions of Safari -- I'm using 1.2 -- seem to cope well with both versions of the Suckerfish menus, but Safari 1.0 has problems, more with the

[WSG] Printing problem

2004-05-21 Thread Giles Clark
I'm having a problem with printing web pages which I have put together with CSS. I have done this before and have never had a problem. The pages render OK in IE but when you hit the print button IE closes and restarts. For the life of me I can't spot the problem..I've even wrapped the style

[WSG] Re: New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread east
I've found a potential CSS incompatibility with the dropdowns. On my 'About Me' page http://eastsdomain.com/site/people/noa/, when the dropdown CSS is active, my content containing box doesn't expand vertically to accomodate all the content. I figured out this was because of the left:-999em

[WSG] Problem with listmenu - unwanted margin in IE

2004-05-21 Thread =?iso-8859-1?Q?:
Hi everybody! I hope somebody can help me with this frustrating problem. The menu works fine in Opera, but in IE i get an unexpected margin in the bottom. What am i doin' wrong here? I have given up :..( The menu is found here: http://www.mailgate.se/~nova/kundeweb/webmail_meny.php It

Re: [WSG] Re: New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread dan
Thanks Noa, I've been noticing a few weird things with using left. top appears to be alot better. We'll change it.. Quoting east [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've found a potential CSS incompatibility with the dropdowns. On my 'About Me' page http://eastsdomain.com/site/people/noa/, when the

Re: [WSG] Headings problem

2004-05-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
-- Original Message - From: Razvan Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... It is a h2. It has margin-top The menu above is a list. The ul has margin-bottom: 50px; Works in IE and Opera. In Firefox there is no space between Articole and the menu above. Any ideas? Hi, You have floated

Re: [WSG] Headings problem

2004-05-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
-- Original Message - From: Razvan Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... It is a h2. It has margin-top The menu above is a list. The ul has margin-bottom: 50px; Works in IE and Opera. In Firefox there is no space between Articole and the menu above. Any ideas? Hi, You have floated

[WSG] Printing problems sorted

2004-05-21 Thread Giles Clark
Thanks everyone I have sorted the printing probs. Regards Giles * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

[WSG] Styled not picked up by FF

2004-05-21 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi, I've one small problem with this page http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/ Isthe padding on the #content is not being picked up by FF... or is it something else preventing FF from moving the #content text down? The CSS is here http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/mouseriders.css Thank you

Re: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF

2004-05-21 Thread Ryan Christie
Kim Kruse wrote: Hi, I've one small problem with this page http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/ Is the padding on the #content is not being picked up by FF... or is it something else preventing FF from moving the #content text down? The CSS is here

RE: [WSG] Styled not picked up by FF

2004-05-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
Kim Kruse wrote: http://www.pagemakers.dk/divtest/  Is the padding on the #content is not being picked up by FF or is it something else preventing FF from moving the #content text down? Kim, The top navigation seems to be causing this, the #nav is floated left. Add a clear:left to the

RE: [WSG] New suckerfish menus

2004-05-21 Thread Jason Turnbull
http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ As the hidden menus are off screen I found tabbing through the links problematic, with the original suckerfish you could tab along the main sections. I realise display:none has been removed for screen reader access to all links. Jason

[WSG] Clear Styles?

2004-05-21 Thread Chris Stratford
I dont know, but is there a way to hide all styles from a div what I have is - an admin page, where the owner can enter text into a TEXTAREA And click PREVIEW and it will load it into a DIV below the TEXTAREA. I dont want any of the styles to "cascade" down into this area... Is there

RE: [WSG] Clear Styles?

2004-05-21 Thread Benjamin
You could give the div a id of say #preview *{ } and use that and it should attribute the styles you define in preview to everything in the div From: Chris Stratford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:34 AM To: Web Standards Group Subject: [WSG] Clear

Re: [WSG] Printing problem

2004-05-21 Thread Ryan Christie
Giles Clark wrote: I'm having a problem with printing web pages which I have put together with CSS. I have done this before and have never had a problem. The pages render OK in IE but when you hit the print button IE closes and restarts. For the life of me I can't spot the problem..I've even

[WSG] WSG Redesign Closed

2004-05-21 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Members, Voting has now closed for the WSG design competition. For your information, here are the top 3 results: Voting (total 144 votes): 69 votes (47.9%) - Russ Weakley 35 votes (24.3%) - Current Site 17 votes (11.8%) - Lindsay Evans Rating (sum of points awarded -2 to 2): 154 - Russ

RE: [WSG] WSG Redesign Closed

2004-05-21 Thread Michael Kear
Well I for one thought it was a worthwhile project, and a good thing to try. I didn't submit a design because I don't put myself in the same class as many of the others on this list. I wouldn't want to have my design work judged alongside professional designers. Now if you're talking about

[WSG] embedding flash in xhtml

2004-05-21 Thread robert e. lee
I have a problem with my xhtml page which has a flash movie. When validating I have found a bit of an anomoly. I have used object etc to embed it on the page and it will validate as xhtml 1.0 strict. Then I found that it does not display the flash movie in Netscape?! Very odd. So I put the

Re: [WSG] WSG Redesign Closed

2004-05-21 Thread Neerav
I agree with Mike While decently conversant with XHTML/CSS and learning more constantly, I don't call myself a graphics designer. So until I gain a lot more experience and skill, submitting a template for the WSG is as unlikely as my designs joining the CSS Zen Garden. Why not use the