RE: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?
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You certainly can style table columns as you would any other element: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.4 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought I read somewhere that you can style tables by columns, just as you can by rows and cells. Regards, David McDonald Web Designer http://www.davidmcdonald.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?
you can but only in IE due to IE having some weirdness occuring in the
way they layout the page.
BUT
if you style the columns using the IE method, and style the third td
(td+td+td etc) which will be understood by most modern browsers you
should be able to get the column styled for everybody.
perhaps not the best way to go about things but it will work
s
Michael Kear wrote:
I thought I read somewhere that you can style tables by columns, just as you
can by rows and cells.In the article I read, the example showed TH
across the top of the table, and the first column of cells was styled using
some kind of column selector, not picking the first cell in each row. (this
is one of those senior moments I guess, because I can't find where I read
that now - it was in one of Russ's light reading posts a few months back I
think.)
But if it's what I think it is, that would allow you to give a column an id
and style it that way.
No?
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com
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You may want to look at COLGROUPs
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.4
Patrick H. Lauke
Justin French wrote:
Hi Folks,
Is there any way (without ids or classes) to target the 3rd (for
example) column of a table to apply styles?
What I'm hoping for is something like...
table td[3]{ text-align:right; }
... but I can't see anything like that in my references.
TIA
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Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?
On Aug 13, 2004, at 3:31 pm, scott parsons wrote: you can but only in IE due to IE having some weirdness occuring in the way they layout the page. BUT if you style the columns using the IE method, and style the third td (td+td+td etc) which will be understood by most modern browsers you should be able to get the column styled for everybody. perhaps not the best way to go about things but it will work You can apply a background-colour via the col element in *all* modern browsers [1]. Mozilla (prior to 1.7) and Firefox (pre 0.9) didn't support this due to inconsistencies in the css2 specs. The discussion has been settled/clarified with the release of CSS2.1 CR, and it is now implemented in Firefox0.9+ and Mozilla 1.7+. (I don't have the bugzilla number handy on this, sorry). http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/tables.html#q4 On a side note, if a table contains more than 3 columns, then the syntax td+td+td will give a background colour to more than one column. You'd need to add td+td+td+td to override the previous one. [1] Safari, Omniweb5, Opera7.x, IE Mac and Gecko based browsers now. ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?
On 13/08/2004, at 4:31 PM, scott parsons wrote: you can but only in IE due to IE having some weirdness occuring in the way they layout the page. BUT if you style the columns using the IE method, and style the third td (td+td+td etc) which will be understood by most modern browsers you should be able to get the column styled for everybody. I think I'm happy with right-aligned with td+td+td for decent browsers, and leaving it left-aligned for IE and all other almost-browsers :) Thanks everyone! --- Justin French http://indent.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table?
Ah! That'll be why I didn't archive it. I figure life's too short to be fretting about IE and non-IE capabilities. I figure while I have the say-so on the design aspect of a site, I'll just not use anything that doesn't work in all browsers. i.e. if it's IE only, it doesn't get done. The vast majority of things can be achieved in a number of ways, and if a design feature requires some proprietary or non-standard behaviour in the browser, then I'll go looking for ways to achieve the same thing, perhaps in a different way, but in a cross-browser standards compliant fashion. Of course if your job is to code up the design handed to you by a designer, signed off by the client, then perhaps you don't have quite as much flexibility. But in general, unless a technique is widely supported, I don't bother to go into much detail with it. When the new version of CSS is released, I'll read about it, understand the issues, but won't bother learning much about it until there is a wide acceptance of it in the marketplace. There's enough going through my mind for me to learn about, without having to learn things I'm maybe going to use some time in the future, maybe not. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of scott parsons Sent: Friday, 13 August 2004 4:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] applying style to the 3rd column of a table? you can but only in IE due to IE having some weirdness occuring in the way they layout the page. BUT if you style the columns using the IE method, and style the third td (td+td+td etc) which will be understood by most modern browsers you should be able to get the column styled for everybody. perhaps not the best way to go about things but it will work s ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Re: [WSG] XP SP 2
Hey all, I apologise for having replied to this thread after it had been closed due to its irrelevance to web standards. I had been reading my messages from the oldest to the newest, and as such, I replied to this thread before reading the notice that this thread was closed. Regards, Liza Ng On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 17:15:44 +0800, Liza Ng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, The download on the page you linked to is intended to be used if you plan to install SP2 on multiple PCs, and not single PCs, thus the larger file size. If I am not mistaken, SP2 for use on single PCs, however, will be released via Windows Update, and the size of the update will also vary depending on the version of XP you have on that PC. Liza Ng - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 09:38:34 +1000 Subject: [WSG] XP SP 2 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey List, Just letting you know XP SP2 is out now. It says its not for Single PC Use, although I just used it anyway. Its 200MB Larger than the single PC use one - so big difference in download. http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/winxpsp2.mspx I didnt notice any change in IE :( Anyway - just letting you all know! BTW SINGLE PC DOWNLOAD supposidly avaliable AUGUST 16th ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML
Hi, I am trying to validate like XHTML 1 Strict a web page with a form. There is checkbox that it has to be checked using checked. The W3C validador gives me error constantly in this. There is no possibility of using checked in XHTML? McCain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML
Shouldn't checked=checked validate? Antony Golding Principal e-Government Services Officer Salford City Council Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 0161 793 2232 -Original Message- From: McCain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2004 11:04 To: Webstandardsgroup Subject: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML Hi, I am trying to validate like XHTML 1 Strict a web page with a form. There is checkbox that it has to be checked using checked. The W3C validador gives me error constantly in this. There is no possibility of using checked in XHTML? McCain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. For the full disclaimer please access http://www.salford.gov.uk/e-mail Thank you. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML
Thanks!! -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] nombre de Golding, Antony Enviado el: viernes, 13 de agosto de 2004 12:06 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: RE: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML Shouldn't checked=checked validate? Antony Golding Principal e-Government Services Officer Salford City Council Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telephone: 0161 793 2232 -Original Message- From: McCain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 August 2004 11:04 To: Webstandardsgroup Subject: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML Hi, I am trying to validate like XHTML 1 Strict a web page with a form. There is checkbox that it has to be checked using checked. The W3C validador gives me error constantly in this. There is no possibility of using checked in XHTML? McCain ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** DISCLAIMER: The information in this message is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this message by anyone else is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient,any disclosure, copying, or distribution of the message, or any action or omission taken by you in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Please immediately contact the sender if you have received this message in error. For the full disclaimer please access http://www.salford.gov.uk/e-mail Thank you. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] checkbox checked in XHTML
McCain wrote: Hi, I am trying to validate like XHTML 1 Strict a web page with a form. There is checkbox that it has to be checked using checked. The W3C validador gives me error constantly in this. There is no possibility of using checked in XHTML? McCain This should do it (I think): input type=checkbox checked=checked / The following example is not allowed: input type=checkbox checked / (minimized attributes are not allowed in xhtml) -- Lennart Fylling http://lennart-fylling.com Norway ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Image size--where should it be?
Thank you--everyone. The answers were most helpful. Edd www.thehalehouse.com ---BeginMessage--- Title: Image size--where should it be? I am new to CSS and I am not sure if the image size (width and height) should appear in the HTML or be handled by CSS. Thank you. Edd ---End Message---
[WSG] Gaps between LI inline elements
Hey Folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. I am working on a menu that is just an unordered list with list items. I set the list to display: inline; and now I have these gaps between each item. Does anyone know how to get rid of said gap? I've tried making margin: 0; on each selector that affects the menu, but to no avail. This link is the HTML file, and the CSS is embedded. http://www.enkryption.com/test.html Thanks for all your help! Gabe Vasquez ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Gaps between LI inline elements
Gabe - Your LI's look nice, the way I would like then too but THAT is the problem. You have: ul lia href=enterprise/ title=Enterprise SolutionsEnterprise Solutions/a/li lia href=consumer/ title=Consumer SolutionsConsumer Solutions/a/li.. It will work if you do this: lia href=enterprise/ title=Enterprise SolutionsEnterprise Solutions/a/lilia href=consumer/ title=Consumer SolutionsConsumer Solutions/a/lilia href=learn/ title=Classroom LearningClassroom Learning/a/li . I know, it is much harder to read and code but it will fix your problem. I just tested it in DreamWeaver and IE 6 and FF. I've seen the problem before [Original Message] From: Gabriel Vasquez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 8/14/2004 10:56:43 AM Subject: [WSG] Gaps between LI inline elements Hey Folks, I'm having a bit of a problem. I am working on a menu that is just an unordered list with list items. I set the list to display: inline; and now I have these gaps between each item. Does anyone know how to get rid of said gap? I've tried making margin: 0; on each selector that affects the menu, but to no avail. This link is the HTML file, and the CSS is embedded. http://www.enkryption.com/test.html Thanks for all your help! Gabe Vasquez ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Gaps between LI inline elements
Here is a DW extension that strips out the whitespace to solve this issue: http://www.dwfaq.com/store/detail/?id=faqStrpLWS It automatically strips the whitespace, you don't have to do anything once it's installed, though it can also be run manually. And it's free. :-) Vicki. :-) Jim wrote: It will work if you do this: lia href=enterprise/ title=Enterprise SolutionsEnterprise Solutions/a/lilia href=consumer/ title=Consumer SolutionsConsumer Solutions/a/lilia href=learn/ title=Classroom LearningClassroom Learning/a/li . I know, it is much harder to read and code but it will fix your problem. I just tested it in DreamWeaver and IE 6 and FF. I've seen the problem before ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
