Re: [WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes
> You see, in IE the horizontal 'box', which should be displayed as a line and it's > height is defind to 1px, appears terrible. This problem ONLY exists in IE. Any ideas? I can confirm it looks terrible in IE, though it appears almost as ghastly in Firefox. Maybe it's the colour #f0 ? There's another issue:. in IE, your empty appears taller than 1px. 19 pixels to be precise. Even though the DIV is empty, it still has a font-size of 16px. Set the font-size to 1px to fix this. It looks like you are using this empty DIV as a horizontal rule. Have you considered using a HR instead? Or adding a 1px border to the bottom of ? --Ben ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] North Alabama gig
I got an email from a friend at Intergraph Public Safety in Huntsville AL (USA) who was looking for people with HTML, XML, CSS, and VBScript(!) skills to work on getting their customers configured and teaching those customers how to reconfigure their systems on a product which I surmise from his note will be at least partially web-based. I suspect my friend is still a little hazy on the requirements. You no doubt noticed that the magic words "accessibility" and "standards" are nowhere in that description. However, I figured if I could refer somebody "enlightened" to them, it would be a good deal for everybody. Please contact me off the list if you live close enough to north Alabama and might have time to do this job. No idea how long it lasts or what the pay is. -- Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen bob at crispen dot org Ex Cathedra Weblog: http://blog.crispen.org/ Don't ask yourself what the world needs - ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
AW: [WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes
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[WSG] Probs with IE behaviour of height attribute of boxes
Title: Nachricht Hi @llz, Take a look at the problem at www.albruco.com/erbguth. The corresponding stylesheet will be here www.albruco.com/erbguth/style.css. You see, in IE the horizontal 'box', which should be displayed as a line and it's height is defind to 1px, appears terrible. This problem ONLY exists in IE. Any ideas? Regards D. * - Albruco IT Consulting - - Clemens - Sebbel - Str. 14 - - D-45721 Haltern am See - - Tel: +49 (0)2364 508120 - - Fax: +49 (0)2364 508121 - * This e-mail message (along with any attachments) is intended only for the named addressee and could contain information that is confidential or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that any dissemination, copying or use of any of the information is prohibited. Please notify us immediately by return e-mail if you are not the intended recipient and delete all copies of the original message and attachments. This footnote also confirms that this message has been checked for computer viruses. *
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
Hill, Tim wrote: Wow, that's big, can't believe they had to pay $40,000 that's huge. Relative to the size of the companies, it's not that big; however, it is big enough not to ignore and for other companies to sit up and take notice. The bottom line is that this could be very good for business--ours, that is! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Thank you, Ted :-)
If you're referring to the outline 'shadows' that is actually suppose to be
some kind of a beveleffect to give the impression of an elevated content
area. I might not have succeded ;-)
Thanks again, I wish U and all the members of the web standards group a
great weekend!
Bent Inge
- Original Message -
From: "Ted Drake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 5:31 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
That's a nice site. I like the combination of bevels and drop shadows. They
are subtle enough to give dimension without being overwhelming. As a
photographer, I tend to notice and get bugged by sites that have multiple
light sources, i.e. shadows coming from top, left, right, ...
I noticed this on your site, but it isn't bad. I think it's because you
have the shadow going against the dark green background.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Siteman DA - Bent Inge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Thanks mugur!
That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned
browsers.
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted
Best regards,
Bent Inge
- Original Message -
From: "mugur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
> Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:
>
> >Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
> >
> >I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
> >footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down
to
> >the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
> >pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
> >
> >The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
> >The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
> >
> >Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
> >
> >The page is located here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
> >and the stylesheet is here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
> >
> >This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
> >english:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Bent Inge Høiås
> >
> >Address:
> >Teknologiveien 22
> >N-2815 Gjøvik
> >Norway
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
> >
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> >
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> >
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> > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
> >**
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Hi,
>
> I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
> and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
> IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
> content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
> WRONG :)
> Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
> The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
> inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
> on screen !
>
> My quick solution: remove the divs with class="clear" and move the
> footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
> beeing inside the pagewidth it will take up the desired role [
> previously filled in by the "clear divs].
> Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
> will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.
>
> Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
> Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
> until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)
>
> Hope it helps !
>
> P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
> **
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RE: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
That's a nice site. I like the combination of bevels and drop shadows. They are
subtle enough to give dimension without being overwhelming. As a photographer, I tend
to notice and get bugged by sites that have multiple light sources, i.e. shadows
coming from top, left, right, ...
I noticed this on your site, but it isn't bad. I think it's because you have the
shadow going against the dark green background.
Ted
-Original Message-
From: Siteman DA - Bent Inge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 8:01 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Thanks mugur!
That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned
browsers.
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted
Best regards,
Bent Inge
- Original Message -
From: "mugur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
> Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:
>
> >Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
> >
> >I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
> >footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down
to
> >the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
> >pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
> >
> >The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
> >The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
> >
> >Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
> >
> >The page is located here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
> >and the stylesheet is here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
> >
> >This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
> >english:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Bent Inge Høiås
> >
> >Address:
> >Teknologiveien 22
> >N-2815 Gjøvik
> >Norway
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
> >
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> >
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> > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge
> >To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004
> >
> > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
> > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
> >**
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Hi,
>
> I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
> and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
> IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
> content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
> WRONG :)
> Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
> The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
> inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
> on screen !
>
> My quick solution: remove the divs with class="clear" and move the
> footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
> beeing inside the pagewidth it will take up the desired role [
> previously filled in by the "clear divs].
> Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
> will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.
>
> Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
> Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
> until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)
>
> Hope it helps !
>
> P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
> **
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>
>
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Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Thanks mugur!
That helped a lot :-) Now the page displays correct in all the mensioned
browsers.
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted
Best regards,
Bent Inge
- Original Message -
From: "mugur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
> Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:
>
> >Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
> >
> >I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
> >footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down
to
> >the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
> >pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
> >
> >The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
> >The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
> >
> >Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
> >
> >The page is located here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
> >and the stylesheet is here:
> >http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
> >
> >This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
> >english:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >">
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Bent Inge Høiås
> >
> >Address:
> >Teknologiveien 22
> >N-2815 Gjøvik
> >Norway
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
> >
> >**
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> >
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> > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge
> >To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004
> >
> > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
> > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
> >**
> >
> >
> >
> >
> Hi,
>
> I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
> and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
> IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
> content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
> WRONG :)
> Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
> The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
> inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
> on screen !
>
> My quick solution: remove the divs with class="clear" and move the
> footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
> beeing inside the pagewidth it will take up the desired role [
> previously filled in by the "clear divs].
> Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
> will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.
>
> Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
> Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
> until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)
>
> Hope it helps !
>
> P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
> **
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>
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> for some hints on posting to the list & getting help
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>
>
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Re: [WSG] Valid Flash state of play
for another point of view here's a link to the Flash gurus at the Flashnewbie list http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/ they're extremely knowledgeable when it comes to Flash ByteDreams - Original Message - From: David McKinnon To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:20 PM Subject: [WSG] Valid Flash state of play Does anyone know if anyone has managed to produce a valid and reliable wayto embed Flash objects yet?I'm noting Nick Gleitzman's reply to Seona Bellamy yesterday [RE: [WSG] Cansomeone reproduce these issues for me please?] suggesting Flash Satay at AList Apart.My understanding is that the safest way is still to use Macromedia's invaliddefault method:http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/tn4150.htmlThis is taking into account Jeffrey Zeldman's comments in Designing With WebStandards about Drew McLellan's Flash Satay methodhttp://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/And noting Mark Lynch's comments on Flashvars using either the Satay meithodor Ian Hixie'shttp://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1081798064&count=1Anyone know any better?David McKinnonwww.alucida.com**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledgeTo be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help**
Re: [WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Siteman DA - Bent Inge wrote:
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group!
I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a
footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down to
the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the
pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div.
The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera.
The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache.
Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-)
The page is located here:
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm
and the stylesheet is here:
http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css
This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into
english:
">
Best regards,
Bent Inge Høiås
Address:
Teknologiveien 22
N-2815 Gjøvik
Norway
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no
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Hi,
I played a little with it and it seems to me as IE (AGAIN) got it wrong
and tricked you by letting you see what you thought it is right.
IE has a nasty habit of expanding any box to enclose all of it's
content. Witch from a standard compliant browser point of view IT IS
WRONG :)
Mozilla and Firefox got it right :
The div you use for page width has no content (!) since everithing
inside it it is floated. Every div with no content will not be rendered
on screen !
My quick solution: remove the divs with class="clear" and move the
footer inside the pagewidth div. Since footer already has {clear: both},
beeing inside the pagewidth it will take up the desired role [
previously filled in by the "clear divs].
Now the page width has content [ the footer] and Mozilla and Firefox
will finaly display everything. IE and Opera too.
Please take in consideration that i only tested [ lack of time ...] with
Mozilla, Firefox and IE. You still need to test it over and over again
until you are sure every[IE]body is on the same page :)
Hope it helps !
P.S. Pardon my english language skills ;)
**
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[WSG] Interesting link on Accessibility in the UK
Title: Message I heard about this on a radio campaign they're running ahead of the new laws on accessibility and disabled rights in general in the UK; http://www.drc-gb.org Jamie Mason: Design// Skysports.com, Central House, Beckwith Knowle, Otley Road, Harrogate, HG3 1UF T: (01423) 700849
RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
> -Original Message- > From: Neerav > sites > > > The more salient question would be whether corporates can be forced to > do so in australia, as SOCOG was a government corporation. AFAIK whether > australian corporates can be forced to comply to W3C/accessibility > guidelines is untested in the courts. > > -- > Neerav Bhatt That is the question. I'm not up with all the cases over the last few years, but there is a community down in Florida that have taken a lot of commercial web sites to court. From memory, they had some wins, and then they started to get cases dismissed. I think they began to be seen as just perusing cases for the sake of it. I'm not saying that this is the case, but it seems to have been part of the perception. >From what I can gather from people working closely with the disability section of the community, it is not the way they prefer to work to get things changed and accomplished. They would prefer to work with people to change the approach without too much sabre rattling. Changing designers attitude to standards, like those on this list, is the way to success. At the same time, my own personal opinion is that just about any of the major corps are sitting ducks for anyone who wanted to sue them under this legislation if they were providing an essential service. If you go to the OZEWAI conferences, or the like, you will hear case after case of how the internet has made life easier for people with disabilities. They can now pay their bills online, order goods, and do many other things from their PC that would have otherwise required them to physically go to places to engage in purchases and do transactions. Some corps have the best of intentions, yet still remain clueless. Telstra are a case in point. Telstra put a lot of work into trying to make their standard templates usable and accessible, but because their standards department rely on poor tools like Bobby, they think their templates meet WCAG P1 when they don't. And if you are a Telstra contractor and try and tell them that, don't be surprised to see a move to have your contract terminated. The people at Telstra Research Labs have a great understanding of usability and accessibility, but these days their opinion is unfortunately not sought as often as it should be, if it was, Telstra would have far more usable and accessible sites. So even though Telstra think they have all this covered, they don't, and they could be sued. If they where sued, they would probably be incredibly surprised that such an action would happen. Just to highlight another point. Whilst I was on contract at Telstra, they outsourced a redevelopment of their Intranet publishing system. I was involved in sessions for the design by the usability company, but when it was finally produced and presented to a meeting of 450 Telstra developers and managers, the main outsourced development company boosted that it complied with WCAG P1 & P2 levels. I could see, just by looking at the interface that it didn't, and went up to the main team and told them it didn't. They assured me it did. I told them it didn't. To cut to the chase, 6 months later I found myself in their office applying for a job as a web developer to fix up this application that they had built for Telstra under contract to comply with WCAG1 P1 & 2, and to fix it to meet this level of requirement. The point I am trying to make, is that in the large corporate, government, and even EDU sectors, many of them think they have accessibility covered, but they don't. And a lot of this is because they rely on Bobby and it is such a sub standard checking tool. It's okay to use as a testing tools as long as you know it's shortcomings. I don't regard the people on this list in the same light at all. People here generally have a pretty good understanding of accessibility issues, and if you are following the basic principles of web standards design, you have most of this covered. In this post I am just trying to make a few points; 1) That there is probably a lot of opportunity to take corps to court, but the disability community are more tolerant than liturguous. 2) Big corps are basically pretty ignorant about accessibility (but this movement in design is probably the best thing to begin changing that). http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/#Australia http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/index.html http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/faq/f.a.q.html ___ Geoff Deering ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Centered layout with header+2col+footer
Hello fellow members of the Web Standards Group! I'm trying to work out a centered layout with header, 2 columns and a footer. The background picture is suppose 2 follow the content right down to the footer, but appearently the float-property 'end' the pagewidth-div(sidebredde) at the end of the header-div. The layout work as intended in in IE and Opera. The problem appears in Firefox and Netscape however gives me headache. Hope some of you wizards out there can help me out :-) The page is located here: http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/index.htm and the stylesheet is here: http://www.siteman.no/prosjektweb/superoddsen/nettsted/global.css This is the stripped code (layout only) comments translates div's into english: "> Best regards, Bent Inge Høiås Address: Teknologiveien 22 N-2815 Gjøvik Norway [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.siteman.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
> Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites Shouldn't that be inaccessible? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites
This is good info: http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html Also I spoke to someone from there and they said it had implications for any company etc providing information or a service on a Internet or Intranet site (in Australia). > > From: russ - maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 20/08/2004 16:48:37 > To: Web Standards Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites > > And of course, Bruce Maguire (the guy who sued SOCOG) will be speaking about > accessibility and legal implications for Australian Developers at the > upcoming September WE04 conference. > > :) > Russ > > > > > > Have you forgotten Sydney Olympics web site, it was 4 years ago the Human > > Rights Commission awarded A$20,000 compensation in the Maguire vs. SOCOG case. > > You can find it all here: http://www.contenu.nu/socog.html > > > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ > Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge > To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > This message was sent through MyMail http://www.mymail.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
