[WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

2005-07-27 Thread Sarah Peeke (XERT)
Hi all I have a page at: http://www.xert.com.au/workshop/p77ji/ where I have used an isolated table to promote two products. Would it be better to use 4 floated div's here instead? I've not used that many in a row before... My css file is at:

Re: [WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

2005-07-27 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I have a page at: http://www.xert.com.au/workshop/p77ji/ where I have used an isolated table to promote two products. Would it be better to use 4 floated div's here instead? I've not used that many in a row before... If it's not tabular data (and it doesn't look like it), the answer

Re: [WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

2005-07-27 Thread Jon D
should never use tables for layout if possible. Try the following: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd; html head titleTwo columns using CSS/title meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 style type=text/css

Re: [WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

2005-07-27 Thread Jon Dawson
yus, the middle div has a width of 750px, but then it also has a left/right margin of 40px = 830px try removing the margins and use padding instead. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Table versus 4 floated divs

2005-07-27 Thread Jon Dawson
http://www.jomni.com/sandbox/wheatgrass.html ;) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] Problem in Firefox on initial page load only

2005-07-27 Thread Jorge Laranjo
Em 27/jul/2005, às 06:46, Philippe Wittenbergh escreveu: I can't see the problem (latest nightly build, OS X). I suspect some insufficient clearing however, something the 1.0x builds suffer from, at times. At the bottom of the page, you have a p class=clear/p make that p class=clearnbps;/p

Re: [WSG] Things I didn't realise, part 126

2005-07-27 Thread designer
Thanks to Rimantas, the problem is solved. For those who wish to know, it seems that putting: body {background : #fff url(../graphics/aab3aa_gradient.jpg) repeat-x fixed left top; } is fine. Works as it should do. However, putting: body,html {background : #fff

Re: [WSG] link ?

2005-07-27 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day I'd say your problem is here: #navwrapper li a:link, a:visited { See the a:visited? That affects ALL links on the page. I think you meant to say: #navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited { Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/

Re: [WSG] Pure CSS Pop-ups using images... but as background-images in span

2005-07-27 Thread Julián Landerreche
M, I think the solution is here... http://www.tanfa.co.uk/css/articles/pure-css-popups-bug.asp but I cant get it to work yet in IE. My set of rules are div.maincont a { position: relative; } div.maincont a span { display: none; } div.maincont a:hover span { text-indent: 0;

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-27 Thread leenath1
I also realize that ZenGardens is sorta frozen in space and time and Eric would have done some things differently if he was doing it today - I found that real interesting reading in the csszengardens book. I think you mean Dave [Shae] (not Eric) Cheers Nathan - Original Message -

[WSG] ADMIN: Re: Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-27 Thread Lea de Groot
Lets try and keep the broadleaf discussion on topic and polite, shall we people? Thank you! Lea -- Lea de Groot Core Member ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for

[WSG] help with colour switcher

2005-07-27 Thread Angus at InfoForce Services
I think this might be off topic, so please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am trying to get a simple colour switcher happening and having no luck. Can someone please help me get mine fixed or help with another simple one? Thank you. My main style sheet (ifsmain.css) is in a positive image. My

Re: [WSG] link ?

2005-07-27 Thread Ben
Doh, got beaten to it. :P I second Bert's opinion.On 7/26/05, Bert Doorn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'dayI'd say your problem is here:#navwrapper li a:link, a:visited {See the a:visited?That affects ALL links on the page.I think you meant to say:#navwrapper li a:link, #navwrapper li a:visited {

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-27 Thread dszady
Donna Jones wrote: Not exactly a clean user experience then. Particularly troublesome when designers rely on the background image and define colour for their text to be readable against it, but fail to provide fallback background colour. Zengarden is an experimental site, showcasing in many

Re: [WSG] Site Check: Broadleaf

2005-07-27 Thread Donna Jones
Mugur Padurean wrote: Hello, reality check here. Quoting the US and Australian available IT infrastructure, as a good reason for building huge web pages, is wrong for at least three reasons: I surely didn't mean to be doing that, please see below. 1. Over 90% percent of the world population

Re: [WSG] Pure CSS Pop-ups using images... but as background-images in span

2005-07-27 Thread Julián Landerreche
Hi, Well, Now, I have understood the solution. I need to add a property to the a:hover rule. a:hover { border: none; } Voilà! Now it works in IE6... Weird, weird bug... Julián Julián Landerreche wrote: Hi, I'm playing with both Pure CSS Popup technics developed by Eric Meyer.

Re: [WSG] Problem in Firefox on initial page load only

2005-07-27 Thread Hope Stewart
On 27/7/05 8:00 PM, Jorge Laranjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the bottom of the page, you have a p class=clear/p make that p class=clearnbps;/p p class=clearnbsp;/p Note, nbsp; and not nbPS; When I've needed to clear a floated, I've used: div class=clear/div which seems to work, though

[WSG] Content too large

2005-07-27 Thread Fletcher Chambers
The setup: Simple 2 column layout. The left column is floated for navigation, the right column is the content. The problem: I sometimes have content that is too wide for the right column. Therefore, in Explorer the content jumps below the floated navigation leaving a huge gap at the top of my

RE: [WSG] Content too large

2005-07-27 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Fletcher This is nothing unusual and points out the advantages of a liquid layout. If your content is text, try setting your left and right divs with percentage widths instead of px. For instance: maincontent=65%, navigation:30%. If your wide content is a photograph, you will need to come up

[WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Making sure I have grokked the CSS-P property-fixed, when an element is fixed it is removed from the normal document flow and positioned relative to its containing element, and does not scroll when the document is? In the following example: div#a would be removed from the normal flow

Re: [WSG] correct use of BR tag

2005-07-27 Thread Anthony Cartmell
I tested it with Fangs to see what a screen reader would probably say and The cat isbr /in the kitchen came out as The cat is in the kitchen. Personally I don't leave a space before or after I'd go for no space either side of the tag. According to the HTML spec, the br / tag forces a line

Re: [WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread Choan C. Gálvez
Chris Kennon escribió: Hi, Making sure I have grokked the CSS-P property-fixed, when an element is fixed it is removed from the normal document flow and positioned relative to its containing element, Not exactly. It's positioned relative to the viewport. Every other point is correct.

Re: [WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, If it is positioned relative to the viewport, why does it stay confined within the container? C On Jul 27, 2005, at 9:08 AM, Choan C. Gálvez wrote: Chris Kennon escribió: Hi, Making sure I have grokked the CSS-P property-fixed, when an element is fixed it is removed from the

[WSG] Firefox float/clear:both ¿bug?

2005-07-27 Thread Julián Landerreche
Hi all, my website (in development) seems to have a circunstancial bug in Mozilla Firefox. I have a floated div, followed by an empty div with clear:both applied. Then, it comes the content. But, the magic of the empty div doesnt seems to work (so, the div float isnt cleared in both sides).

Re: [WSG] Content too large

2005-07-27 Thread David Laakso
Fletcher Chambers wrote:[...] Question: Does anyone see any other technique, fix, layout change, or something, that I could do to make it so Explorer doesn't give me the huge amount of white space at the top of the right column. Code: http://www.toopractical.com/temp/index.htm

Re: [WSG] Content too large

2005-07-27 Thread David Laakso
David Laakso wrote: Fletcher Chambers wrote:[...] Question: Does anyone see any other technique, fix, layout change, or something, that I could do to make it so Explorer doesn't give me the huge amount of white space at the top of the right column. Code:

Re: [WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread Choan C. Gálvez
Chris Kennon escribió: Hi, If it is positioned relative to the viewport, why does it stay confined within the container? If I understand correctly, your `fixed` div is showing from the top-left corner of its container. If that's the case, there's one reason: you're not positioning the

Re: [WSG] Firefox float/clear:both ¿bug?

2005-07-27 Thread Julián Landerreche
Mmmm. I have discovered that it has something to do with some properties in the class clearboth in the CSS My CSS: .clearboth { clear: both; } div.clearboth { width: 0; height: 0; line-height: 0; font-size: 0px; } If I remove the second rule (or remove the set of properties),

Re: [WSG] Firefox float/clear:both ¿bug?

2005-07-27 Thread Julián Landerreche
If I remove the second rule (or remove the set of properties), the page is displayed correctly. No, it doesnt display correctly It seems that the empty div must have some content (like .) to clear the floated div. ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi, Thanks, where I got confused is with the static attribute which does not take top, right, bottom and left values(http:// www.w3schools.com/css/pr_class_position.asp). So if an item is not positioned when using fixed, it is fixed relative to its containing element? On Jul 27, 2005,

[WSG] IBM article

2005-07-27 Thread Zulema
Hi all, I got this link from a friend at work and wanted to pass it on ;) Migrate apps from Internet Explorer to Mozilla http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-ie2mozgd/ ciao, Zulema · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · · Zulema Ortiz Web Designer folio: http://zoblue.com blog:

Re: [WSG] Firefox float/clear:both ¿bug?

2005-07-27 Thread sam sherlock
Hi I have been using the following: /* clear this fix */ .clearThis:after { content: .; display: block; height: 0; clear: both; visibility: hidden; } /* Hides from IE-mac \*/ * html .clearThis {height: 1%;} /* End hide from IE-mac */ more information at

Re: [WSG] IBM article

2005-07-27 Thread Brian Cummiskey
Zulema wrote: Hi all, I got this link from a friend at work and wanted to pass it on ;) Migrate apps from Internet Explorer to Mozilla http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/web/library/wa-ie2mozgd/ Funny, I'm always trying to fuge it to work for IE, not the other way around as the article

Re: [WSG] Problem in Firefox on initial page load only

2005-07-27 Thread matt andrews
On 27/07/05, Hope Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/7/05 8:00 PM, Jorge Laranjo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the bottom of the page, you have a p class=clear/p make that p class=clearnbps;/p p class=clearnbsp;/p Note, nbsp; and not nbPS; When I've needed to clear a floated,

Re: [WSG] A Fixed Understanding

2005-07-27 Thread matt andrews
On 28/07/05, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Thanks, where I got confused is with the static attribute which does not take top, right, bottom and left values(http:// www.w3schools.com/css/pr_class_position.asp). So if an item is not positioned when using fixed, it is fixed

RE: [WSG] Problem in Firefox on initial page load only

2005-07-27 Thread Gledhill, Scott
A nicer approach, IMHO, is not to use markup for clearing at all: http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html ** although not 100% solid I have found. I laid out a site once (news site) with the traditional 'more' links after a