Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On 9 Aug 2005, at 11:19 am, Wayne Godfrey wrote: Wouldn't IE for Mac also be influenced by the hacks below? body.index #main { margin-left: 250px; _margin-left: 245px; /* IE hack */ margin-right: 15px; _margin-right: 10px; /* IE hack */ background-co

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Wayne Godfrey
Wouldn't IE for Mac also be influenced by the hacks below? body.index #main { margin-left: 250px; _margin-left: 245px; /* IE hack */ margin-right: 15px; _margin-right: 10px; /* IE hack */ background-color: transparent; } The testing I've done on IE Mac

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Darren Wood wrote: > I use a very simple rule that will allow for CSS validation... > > Its the " * html " selector As a side note: - Conditional Comments are IE/Win only (>= v5), - the star selector hack works with IE/Mac too. Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [sniff] You're not alone, Ted. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C. Hi Al I didn't realize you were on the list. Your web site and coding was an inspiration to me when I first switched to CSS and standards-based

RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Webmaster
[sniff] You're not alone, Ted. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drake, Ted C. Sent: Tuesday, 9 August 2005 9:34 AM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks Hi Al I didn't realize you were on the list. Your web

RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Al I didn't realize you were on the list. Your web site and coding was an inspiration to me when I first switched to CSS and standards-based design. Thanks Ted www.tdrake.net -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Sparber Sent: Monday, A

RE: [WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry

2005-08-08 Thread Kwok Ting Lee
Thanks, everyone. That's a start on figuring out what to do with this. I'll ruminate on it for a bit, do a few tests, maybe let a few of my readers test it out at a test page and then decide how to deploy it on the site. Kwok Ting Lee ** T

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Al Sparber
From: "Jan Brasna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks When using these filters, be careful - IE7 is coming... Wise words. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com "Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbli

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Wayne Godfrey
So my brain has made this entirely too complicated, huh? Can't imagine that! I'm using an @import rule, so my good style sheet would remain the same (sans IE hacks) and I can put only the IE hacks in a file with the conditional comments around it, is that correct? That's so simple. Thanks Dav

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Darren Wood
I use a very simple rule that will allow for CSS validation... Its the " * html " selector IE thinks there's an extra element outside the HTML element...as we know there isn't. what this means is we can exploit it for our IE hack. Have a look at the example: #wrapper { /* all browsers other th

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Jan Brasna
When using these filters, be careful - IE7 is coming... -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some

Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread David Laakso
Wayne Godfrey wrote: I feel a bit dumb asking this, but there's so much to learn and some things sink in better than others! Anyway, I've had to do some hacks to get IE to display my site correctly. Now those hacks are causing my CSS to not validate. The question is what is the proper way to f

[WSG] Proper IE Hacks

2005-08-08 Thread Wayne Godfrey
I feel a bit dumb asking this, but there's so much to learn and some things sink in better than others! Anyway, I've had to do some hacks to get IE to display my site correctly. Now those hacks are causing my CSS to not validate. The question is what is the proper way to fix this predicament? I

Re: [WSG] A web site programming question

2005-08-08 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
sam sherlock wrote: You should check out the creamweaver task force sit I know it's probably a typo, but nonetheless "creamweaver" had me chuckling there for a while... -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used

Re: [WSG] self-counting list items

2005-08-08 Thread T. R. Valentine
On 08/08/05, Drake, Ted C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was looking through the w3c specs and came across this example that seems > to be perfect. But I can't get it to work. Has anyone worked with this > before? > > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html#scope Yes. See http://plano.lib.i

[WSG] self-counting list items

2005-08-08 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All I've been struggling with the ability to increment nested ordered lists. I'm trying to update a page that was built with multiple paragraphs that lead off with 1.1...1.2> Etc etc Naturally, I'd like to replace these with . I was looking through the w3c specs and came across th

RE: [WSG] A web site programming question

2005-08-08 Thread Gary Moyle
Hi, I've just had a look at the Studio 8 presentation and it looks like Macromedia are really addressing some key issues with coding for CSS. Dreamweaver MX 2004 doesn't render your css layouts at all well. But having said that I use Dreamweaver MX 2005 in code view all the time to develop web

RE: [WSG] A web site programming question

2005-08-08 Thread Drake, Ted C.
This is usually off-topic, but I would like to add that WASP has been working with Macromedia and it looks like it has paid off. Macromedia is announcing the new Dreamweaver 8 and it looks like their support for standards-based programming has grown tremendously. The flash movie has a sneak previe

Re: [WSG] A web site programming question

2005-08-08 Thread sam sherlock
Hi, You should check out the creamweaver task force sit There are a number of adjustments and customisations you'll need to make http://webstandards.org/act/campaign/dwtf/ atb> Sam Angus at InfoForce Services wrote: I do not know if this is off topic for this list. Just incase pleas

[WSG] A web site programming question

2005-08-08 Thread Angus at InfoForce Services
I do not know if this is off topic for this list. Just incase please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. I am a web site designer that hand codes with EditPlus and like to build header and footer files (basic template(. I am about to start working with an individual that uses FrontPage for w

[WSG] slop factor-- curing float drops in IE

2005-08-08 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Bruce If you don't want your columns to drop down you need to make sure the sum of the columns widths does not equal more than the width of the container. If you need a tight layout, it's worth spending some time to establish filters to deliver special widths to IE. I believe most people go for t

Re: [WSG] curing float drops in IE

2005-08-08 Thread akella
try #left_column{/*positioning for left column*/ float:left; width:300px; } #right_column{/*positioning for right column*/ float:right; width:200px; } may be u'll have less problems... #left_column{/*positioning for left column*/float:left;width:310px;margin-left:15px; }#right_column{/*positioning

[WSG] curing float drops in IE

2005-08-08 Thread Bruce Gilbert
I am always having trouble with my floats dropping below the container \s they are being floated against in IE. Other than reducing the amount of space (since IE adds extra padding I believe), is there a good way to prevent this from occurring? for example I have two columns with the css as: #lef

Re: [WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry

2005-08-08 Thread Juergen Auer
On 8 Aug 2005 at 13:47, Kwok Ting Lee wrote: > Anyway, the > question I have is (and this may be somewhat off-topic), but how would > one go about hiding the Chinese characters for those people who do not > have Chinese fonts enabled on their system? I didn't test it, but it should work: With Ja

Re: [WSG] Logic? ADMIN

2005-08-08 Thread russ - maxdesign
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Re: [WSG] Logic?

2005-08-08 Thread Rick Faaberg
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[WSG] Calling all CSS-Savvy Designers

2005-08-08 Thread Mugur Padurean
Quote from The Web Standards Project : ** Kevin Lawver, AOL's representative to the CSS Working Group, is making a plea  to the design community to give the Working Group feedback on the CSS3 Borders and Backgrounds module .

Re: [WSG] Logic?

2005-08-08 Thread Vinod Sharma
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