Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks
Wayne, It *is* confusing. But, yes, a separate stylesheet, loaded via conditional comments is the most future proof method. Not exactly what Phillipe is describing, but along the same lines. Perhaps this will help get you going: http://phonophunk.phreakin.com/news/?p=46 Cheers, Mike ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG]
Hey guys I'm getting some bizarre behaviour from my footer. In IE6 when the page loads it seems to sit in the middle of the page/content but when I mouse over the nav on the left it sorts its self out? In IE5, a similar problem occurs when I change the width of the browser window: the footer moves and flashes over the middle of the page? http://www.wcc.nsw.gov.au/intranet_error/template_content_test.html Can anybody help? This has been driving me mad! Hope a URL is ok?! Cheers Regards Jack Bennie Web Developer - Web Services WorkCover NSW Tel: 02 4321 5063 Fax: 02 9287 5063 This message, including any attached files, is intended solely for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of WorkCover NSW.
[WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
Hi all, I've come crawling back with some issues. I never seem to be much help to anyone else - I hope someone can help me here. I have a page that has a banner, a menu, a side (tree) menu, a flash image viewing app as the main content, a control pannel and a footer. My (unobtainable?) goal is to have the flash viewer take up all available height and width of the viewer window. The viewer is going to be used to view scanned/generated images of documents sent to the clients of our clients. The footer and tree menu are optional on some pages. I'm having issues with the layout in general - I seem to be so close in so many ways, and yet so freakin' far in others - it's so elusive! cue organ music I've faltered my brothers (and sisters) -I ran screaming back to my _javascript_ skills - crying for a solution to my woes - help me be strong! I used some _javascript_ to calculate the heights and widths and set some dimensions of the divs and flash. Before I faltered to _javascript_... Firefox tended to make the flash viewer stetch to 100% of the window, no matter what the actual size of it's container. In IE the width can seem fine, but then the viewer wants to be 100% of the browser window height, ignoring the height of it's container. I havemy _javascript_ stained version at https://demo.hpa.com.au/OLM/test/apps/ies/viewer_alpha1.htm This version is the closest to where I want to get to, however there are issues when you resize the browser, the float on the side tree menu and the width of the flash viewer makes the flash viewer slip below the tree. I don't want to use the _javascript_ if I can help it. I need the flash viewer to be as large as possible (contractual agreement). I want to be xHTML transitional. Please get in touch, after 4 days of racking my head I just seem to be stuck in a rut. Thanks all. Brendan PS - Can't wait for the Jeff Veen workshop!
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
On 8/9/05 3:00 AM Brendan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I've come crawling back with some issues. I never seem to be much help to anyone else - I hope someone can help me here. Grey tiny text. del msg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] self-counting list items
Yes, it's already implemented in the development versions of Firefox. If you download Deer Park Alpha 2 (for TESTING!), you should be able to play with all the CSS improvements. http://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2005/07/12/deer-park-alpha-2-released/ Ben http://ben-ward.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Interview: BBC TBL
Just a heads up to an interesting article about the big man himself and the future of the web; due for broadcast on the UK's BBC2 tonight 22:30 BST. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4132752.stm Eddie http://blog.tn38.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
Roger that. I gave up after Hi all'. Plain text, please, people?! N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ On 9 Aug 2005, at 8:05 PM, Rick Faaberg wrote: On 8/9/05 3:00 AM Brendan Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I've come crawling back with some issues. I never seem to be much help to anyone else - I hope someone can help me here. Grey tiny text. del msg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry
Kwok Ting Lee wrote: This is, I guess, one of the first times I've written anything here, but I've run into a bit of a dilemma and was hoping for some advice: 1. I have a number of analyses of poems I am planning on posting to my weblog over the next few months, however, I'm a bit stumped as to what mark-up would be most semantically correct (The poems are quoted from another source, so for the time being I was thinking of using a blockquote): A.blockquote h3Title of Poem/h3 p class=stanza Blah...blah..blah...br/ More blah.br/ /p /blockquote Or: B.dl class=poem dtTitle of Poem/dt ddBlah...blah..blach.../dd ddMore blah/dd ... /dl Oh, no, definitely not the second option! Absolutely wrong use of the definition list. Perhaps: h3Title of Poem/h3 blockquote p class=stanza Blah...blah..blah...br/ More blah.br/ /p /blockquote panalyse of poem.../p In other words, you separate your content from the original authors. You may also want to include the cite attribute, as you indicate that the source of the texts are from elsewhere: blockquote cite=http://www.other_source.com; Also, not sure about Chinese poetry, but I know western poetry often requires specific line breaks, making it a candidate for pre... (just a random thought...) h3Title of Poem/h3 blockquote pre Blah...blah..blah... More blah. /pre /blockquote panalyse of poem.../p Good Luck, HTH JF -- John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca Phone: 1-613-482-7053 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
Wow ... Nick , you got so far ...
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
Full post below for those that could not read it. Rick has a valid point. The WSG guidelines say (amongst other things): Try to use plain text email rather than HTML email where possible. http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Now, can someone help Brendan out of his 4 day rut? Russ Hi all, I've come crawling back with some issues. I never seem to be much help to anyone else - I hope someone can help me here. I have a page that has a banner, a menu, a side (tree) menu, a flash image viewing app as the main content, a control pannel and a footer. My (unobtainable?) goal is to have the flash viewer take up all available height and width of the viewer window. The viewer is going to be used to view scanned/generated images of documents sent to the clients of our clients. The footer and tree menu are optional on some pages. I'm having issues with the layout in general - I seem to be so close in so many ways, and yet so freakin' far in others - it's so elusive! cue organ music I've faltered my brothers (and sisters) - I ran screaming back to my javascript skills - crying for a solution to my woes - help me be strong! I used some javascript to calculate the heights and widths and set some dimensions of the divs and flash. Before I faltered to javascript... Firefox tended to make the flash viewer stetch to 100% of the window, no matter what the actual size of it's container. In IE the width can seem fine, but then the viewer wants to be 100% of the browser window height, ignoring the height of it's container. I have my javascript stained version at https://demo.hpa.com.au/OLM/test/apps/ies/viewer_alpha1.htm This version is the closest to where I want to get to, however there are issues when you resize the browser, the float on the side tree menu and the width of the flash viewer makes the flash viewer slip below the tree. I don't want to use the javascript if I can help it. I need the flash viewer to be as large as possible (contractual agreement). I want to be xHTML transitional. Please get in touch, after 4 days of racking my head I just seem to be stuck in a rut. Thanks all. Brendan PS - Can't wait for the Jeff Veen workshop! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
Brendan,
cue organ music I've faltered my brothers (and sisters) - I ran
screaming back to my javascript skills - crying for a solution to my
woes - help me be strong! I used some javascript to calculate the
heights and widths and set some dimensions of the divs and flash.
Have you tried to set some dimensions to the container of the flash:
#viewer {
width: 100%;
height: 40%;
}
#viewer object {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
You could also position the div absolutely:
body {
height: 100%;
}
#viewer {
position: absolute;
left: 200px;
right: 0px;
top: 500px;
bottom: 40px;
}
#viewer object {
width: 100%;
height: 100%;
}
Martin.
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[WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Hello All, I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times before, but I cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you center text vertically in a division ? Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using tables at all. euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems stupid. Pat ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Nifty Corners page shift
Hello list, Although not entirely CSS related, I believe my problem is in the CSS... If anyone has used the CSS/JS Nifty Corners I would love to hear from you. I am having an issue where when these corners load (seemingly last in the page build) they are effectng the padding and causing a noticable page shift, especially in IE6 (although I have seen it in Opera 8 Mac too). I would love to get rid of it if possible. Off-list is fine, but others might benefit... http://www.mlinc.com/test/nifty/index.html Thanks! -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Flash 100% wide layout issues - resorting to javascript - eek!
My (unobtainable?) goal is to have the flash viewer take up all available height and width of the viewer window. [..] / https://demo.hpa.com.au/OLM/test/apps/ies/viewer_alpha1.htm/ Brendan My reply assumes I understand the problem(and I am not sure of that, or much else, for that matter). I see a 2col layout with a max width set around 1150 to 1200 with a fixed width left column; and the right column(viewer) set with a min-max width ( min-height). Use your favorite method to feed min-max to the evil one. Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times before, but I cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you center text vertically in a division ? Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using tables at all. euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems stupid. Pat There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there are often stupid answers, and this may be one of them: CenteringTextVertically-- css-d wiki. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringTextVertically Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG]
I've tested the site on my IE6, FF1.0.6, NS8.0, Mozilla1.7.5 and Opera7.23 under WinXP Ubuntu Linux and there was no behavior as you described at all there. The only problem was the footer takes twice as long to load as the rest of the page.2005/8/9, Bennie, Jack [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Hey guys I'm getting some bizarre behaviour from my footer. In IE6 when the page loads it seems to sit in the middle of the page/content but when I mouse over the nav on the left it sorts its self out? In IE5, a similar problem occurs when I change the width of the browser window: the footer moves and flashes over the middle of the page? http://www.wcc.nsw.gov.au/intranet_error/template_content_test.html Can anybody help? This has been driving me mad! Hope a URL is ok?! Cheers Regards Jack Bennie Web Developer - Web Services WorkCover NSW Tel: 02 4321 5063 Fax: 02 9287 5063 This message, including any attached files, is intended solely for the addressee named and may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and are not necessarily the views of WorkCover NSW. -- Software is like Sex - it's better when it's free ... (Linus Torvalds)
[WSG] FireFox DOM issue.
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this group and this is my first message.
I am porting over a rich text editor that currently only works in IE.
I have done tons of search about getting the selected text in a page.
I'm very close...for instance...you can now see the formatting buttons
and also I have the correct code to get it to know what is selected and
if you click 'bold' it will put the bold tags around it in a text box.
I want it so that if NOTHING is selected and you hit bold it will give
you an alert box for the text that you would like bolded. Then plance
that text with the bold tags around it. My problem is I can't get the
right code of the DOM to test correctly for a selection being made in
the text box.
I am currently trying
Str = window.getSelection;
If (str.isCollapsed) {
if true do this;
}else{
do this;
}
I put alert(str.isCollapsed) in there to trace what is going on but it's
ALWAYS true.
I'm wondering if it's because the text is in a textarea and not just on
the page?
Like I said, I have been getting it to work without sniffing to see if a
selection has actually been made to put the tags around the text but I
can't for the life of me sniff it out through code.
I've also tried
Str = window.getSelection;
If(str.toString().length 0) to no avail.
Thanks in advance!
Buddy
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Re: [WSG] firefox for OS9?
This page should be it: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/download/archive70x.jsp Kay Smoljak wrote: On 8/6/05, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for a possibly off-topic post. We have a client on our intranet that needs to look at our site on OS9.2. I couldn't find information on the Firefox web site about compatibility with this platform. Does anyone know where I could send this person for more advice? I had a client with OS9 who were using Netscape 4 (!), and I got them to upgrade to Netscape 7. The later builds don't support OS9, but earlier ones do, so if you look around you should be able to find one. -- Dejan Kozina Dolina 346 (TS) - I-34018 Italy tel./fax: +39 040 228 436 - cell.: +39 348 7355 225 http://www.kozina.com/ - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] FireFox DOM issue.
In firefox, I have had success with selectionStart and selectionEnd
if you have a form:
form name=a
textarea name=b/textarea
you can access the start and end points of the highlighted text (or
get the position of the cursor in the text) with:
startPoint = document.a.b.selectionStart;
endPoint = document.a.b.selectionEnd;
This won't work in IE (where I tend to use document.selection) so you
have to do some kind of functionality test like:
if(document.selection){
//do IE stuff
}else if(myField.selectionStart)
//do mozilla stuff
Hope this helps
--
Patrick
www.agavegroup.com
On 8/9/05, Buddy Quaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
I'm new to this group and this is my first message.
I am porting over a rich text editor that currently only works in IE.
I have done tons of search about getting the selected text in a page.
I'm very close...for instance...you can now see the formatting buttons
and also I have the correct code to get it to know what is selected and
if you click 'bold' it will put the bold tags around it in a text box.
I want it so that if NOTHING is selected and you hit bold it will give
you an alert box for the text that you would like bolded. Then plance
that text with the bold tags around it. My problem is I can't get the
right code of the DOM to test correctly for a selection being made in
the text box.
I am currently trying
Str = window.getSelection;
If (str.isCollapsed) {
if true do this;
}else{
do this;
}
I put alert(str.isCollapsed) in there to trace what is going on but it's
ALWAYS true.
I'm wondering if it's because the text is in a textarea and not just on
the page?
Like I said, I have been getting it to work without sniffing to see if a
selection has actually been made to put the tags around the text but I
can't for the life of me sniff it out through code.
I've also tried
Str = window.getSelection;
If(str.toString().length 0) to no avail.
Thanks in advance!
Buddy
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[WSG] browser v.5 woes
I just checked a site I am working on in both PC and Mac v. 5.0 and the page is looking pretty crappy in those browsers. I am most interested in getting things looiking better in IE PC 5.0. The main probs are top menu scrunched together with side borders and h1 title page div not enough padding . Any hacks I can apply specifically to the 5's is greatly appreciative. URL: http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/Company.htm CSS:http://www.wealthdevelopmentmortgage.com/Bruce/WDM.css -- ::Bruce:: ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Hi everyone, I'm replying to this because I am also stuck on the same issue. I have horizontal navigation that is floated (son of suckerfish style) and that has relative widths for scalable fonts. Some of the navigation text runs onto two lines, and some of them are short enough to be on one line. So problem is the one-liners are at the top of the navigation item and I would like them to be vertically centered. Can't use line-height trick because then the two liner nav items get massive line spacing! Menu is generated dynamically from CMS database so can't muck with the source code in any way. Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school valign for table layouts? I realy don't want to use hacky stuff or any javascript stuff cause already there is so much hacks just for IE!!! Rach -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 3:16 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times before, but I cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you center text vertically in a division ? Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using tables at all. euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems stupid. Pat There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there are often stupid answers, and this may be one of them: CenteringTextVertically-- css-d wiki. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringTextVertically Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Display: markerRE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
I wonder if the display:markers would be useful for this? Has anyone played around with it before? From what I understand, the display marker can be best understood when looking at a list item. The bullet is the marker and the list information is the block it is associated with. Could the text you are using be given display:marker and then given a position of top:50%? I haven't messed with this property and I don't know what the support is like. I can imagine a certain browser has no idea what I'm talking about. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/generate.html#markers Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Radford Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 3:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division Hi everyone, I'm replying to this because I am also stuck on the same issue. I have horizontal navigation that is floated (son of suckerfish style) and that has relative widths for scalable fonts. Some of the navigation text runs onto two lines, and some of them are short enough to be on one line. So problem is the one-liners are at the top of the navigation item and I would like them to be vertically centered. Can't use line-height trick because then the two liner nav items get massive line spacing! Menu is generated dynamically from CMS database so can't muck with the source code in any way. Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school valign for table layouts? I realy don't want to use hacky stuff or any javascript stuff cause already there is so much hacks just for IE!!! Rach -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 3:16 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times before, but I cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you center text vertically in a division ? Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using tables at all. euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems stupid. Pat There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there are often stupid answers, and this may be one of them: CenteringTextVertically-- css-d wiki. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringTextVertically Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] bi-lingual page?
hi all this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) on the same page? - English and German the content will be a side-by-side translation of each language thanx barry.b PS: no doubt I'll have more questions later but I'm starting from the display and working backwards to the content storage (ensuring the database can support unicode, etc) and then the content capture (a form in either English and German) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] bi-lingual page?
On 10 Aug 2005, at 8:55 AM, Barry Beattie wrote: hi all this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) on the same page? - English and German the content will be a side-by-side translation of each language thanx barry.b Barry, search the archive for this list - there was this exact question a month or two ago, and answers on how to use inline charsets for each language - I think what you need is there. HTH N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] bi-lingual page?
You should have been at the Brisbane meeting last night! Where this very thing was spoken about. Went right over my head but John Bates gave an excellent talk on the topic. His website is at codeHQ.net. Check it out, his talk should be up there as well as a heap of other stuff CodeHQ.net/blog/ Craig Rippon Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: Barry Beattie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 8:56 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] bi-lingual page? hi all this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) on the same page? - English and German the content will be a side-by-side translation of each language thanx barry.b PS: no doubt I'll have more questions later but I'm starting from the display and working backwards to the content storage (ensuring the database can support unicode, etc) and then the content capture (a form in either English and German) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] standards form?
Here's a tip for registration forms. Many times I have seen forms that allow you to enter the Country but then provide a list of *US* only states is crazy, please don't do this :)On 07/08/05, Svip [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't suggest doing a single multi-porpuse form, as it wouldsimply just confuse people using the website.Split them up. Though I am not quite sure what your question is.Svip - sviip.dk-- Cheers,Serdar Kilichttp://weblog.kilic.net/
Re: [WSG] bi-lingual page?
English and German are both Latin1 languages, so no problem here. To be 100% safe use UTF8. -- Jan Brasna aka JohnyB :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Is there any other reliable way of mimicking the old-school
valign for table layouts?
I use a combination of display:table for those UA's that handle it, and a
relative/absolute positioning hack for those that don't:
.outer {
border: 1px solid #000;
display: table;
width: 200px;
height: 200px;
overflow: hidden;
}
.inner {
display: table-cell;
vertical-align: middle;
text-align: center;
_width: 100%;
_position: absolute;
_top: 50%;
}
.inner span {
_position: relative;
_top: -50%;
}
div class=outer
div class=inner
spansome test text herespan
/div
/div
Regards
Scott Swabey
Lafinboy Productions
www.lafinboy.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rachel Radford
Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 8:13 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
Hi everyone,
I'm replying to this because I am also stuck on the same issue.
I have horizontal navigation that is floated (son of
suckerfish style) and that has relative widths for scalable
fonts. Some of the navigation text runs onto two lines, and
some of them are short enough to be on one line. So problem
is the one-liners are at the top of the navigation item and I
would like them to be vertically centered. Can't use
line-height trick because then the two liner nav items get
massive line spacing! Menu is generated dynamically from CMS
database so can't muck with the source code in any way.
I realy don't want to use hacky
stuff or any javascript stuff cause already there is so much
hacks just for IE!!!
Rach
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On Behalf Of David Laakso
Sent: Wednesday, 10 August 2005 3:16 a.m.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Align text vertically in a division
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I am sure that you have described this issue thousand times
before, but
I
cannot find the trick that will do this easily : how do you
center text vertically in a division ?
Easy to do with tables of course, but I would like to avoid using
tables at
all.
euh ... as we say in French ... sorry if the question seems
stupid. Pat
There is no such thing as a stupid question. However, there
are often
stupid answers, and this may be one of them:
CenteringTextVertically-- css-d wiki.
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CenteringTextVertically
Regards,
David Laakso
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Re: [WSG] bi-lingual page?
On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 08:55:48 +1000, Barry Beattie wrote: this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) on the same page? - English and German The lang attibute will probably be useful - http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/dirlang.html eg html lang=en ... divthe english bits/div div lang=dethe german bits/div ... ie define the default language from the page then define the alternate language for one section of the page. Bit difficult when your users are split 50-50, but you pretty much need to pick a core language for the page :( HIH Lea ~ done from memory - german is de, right? -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - http://elysiansystems.com/ Brisbane, Australia ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] bi-lingual page?
Barry Beattie skrev: this is the first time I've done anything like this but I'm wondering what it takes to display two languages (and therefore two charsets) There can be only one charset on a webpage, but with unicode/utf-8 you still can have content in different languages on the same page. /AndersN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks
Hi All,
The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly appreciated.
I have a problem with a submenu that works by altering the z-index. I
have used the following hack which I'm not entirely happy with. Can
someone suggest something better?
#submenu a:hover {
z-index: 20;
z-index: expression(body.z-index 20); /* invalid css: IE fix */
}
Regards,
Stuart Sherwood
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RE: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks
Yes...
I know what your talking about.
Here is the javascript to get it working if you have a element with ID
of nav
startList = function() {
if (document.alldocument.getElementById) {
navRoot = document.getElementById(nav);
for (i=0; inavRoot.childNodes.length; i++) {
node = navRoot.childNodes[i];
if (node.nodeName==LI) {
node.onmouseover=function() {
this.className+= over;
}
node.onmouseout=function() {
this.className=this.className.replace
( over, );
}
}
}
}
}
window.onload=startList;
This comes from http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/
Read that.
Buddy Quaid http://www.tangerinefiles.com
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Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 8:18 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks
Hi All,
The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly
appreciated. I have a problem with a submenu that works by
altering the z-index. I
have used the following hack which I'm not entirely happy with. Can
someone suggest something better?
#submenu a:hover {
z-index: 20;
z-index: expression(body.z-index 20); /* invalid css: IE fix */ }
Regards,
Stuart Sherwood
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Re: [WSG] Proper IE Hacks
Stuart Sherwood wrote:
Hi All,
The tips and advice here is really fantastic. Highly appreciated.
I have a problem with a submenu that works by altering the z-index. I
have used the following hack which I'm not entirely happy with. Can
someone suggest something better?
#submenu a:hover {
z-index: 20;
z-index: expression(body.z-index 20); /* invalid css: IE fix */
}
Regards,
Stuart Sherwood
I have no idea how to make it better. If it works as intended, and
your goal is to hide it from the validator and respectable browsers, you
might use 'conditional comments.'
!--[if lte IE 6]
style type=text/css
z-index: expression(body.z-index 20);
/style
![endif]--
Regards,
David Laakso
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RE: [WSG] Newbie Questions: East-Asian Character Sets and Marking-up Poetry
On Tue, 2005-08-09 at 08:56 -0400, John Foliot - WATS.ca wrote: Kwok Ting Lee wrote: This is, I guess, one of the first times I've written anything here, but I've run into a bit of a dilemma and was hoping for some advice: 1. I have a number of analyses of poems I am planning on posting to my weblog over the next few months, however, I'm a bit stumped as to what mark-up would be most semantically correct (The poems are quoted from another source, so for the time being I was thinking of using a blockquote)[...] I think I missed the start of this thread, but we discussed this on here sometime last year... I posted relevant bits on my blog at the time. http://www.joahua.com/blog/2004/10/24/the-indentation-problem p class=stanza spanJust the...br / As he.../span spanSupporting...br / By a/span /p Seemed to be the best we could come up with. HTH. Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 Multimedia Development Agency E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the sender’s consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE min-width problem
Hi Folks, I've been working on a site which has three columns which unfortunately need full height backgrounds, some have rounded corners and... well it's been tricky but it's all working ok... except that due to the fact that IE doesn't accept min-width, it becomes quick ugly in IE when the window is resized... You can look at the beta site at http://dev.papercutmedia.com/perthjazz/ The CSS isn't to messy, but the XHTML does contain a few "spare" divs to enable the various background pics to get the "look" right ( boy am I looking forward to CSS3 with multiple background images for single elements!) and I'm getting the feeling I've looked at it too long and am not seeingsomething obvious... Any pearls of wisdom that can be offered would be graciously recieved. Tania
Re: [WSG] IE min-width problem
Tania Morris wrote: Hi Folks, I've been working on a site which has three columns which unfortunately need full height backgrounds, some have rounded corners and... well it's been tricky but it's all working ok... except that due to the fact that IE doesn't accept min-width, Any pearls of wisdom that can be offered would be graciously recieved. Hi Tania, We often use CSS expressions deployed inside conditional comments for such tasks as min-width in IE. See if this page might be of help for you: http://www.projectseven.com/tutorials/accessibility/pop_integrated/pmmsite/ The comment is embedded just before the closing head tag and is part of the #wrapper rule. HTH. Al Sparber PVII http://www.projectseven.com Designing with CSS is sometimes like barreling down a crumbling mountain road at 90 miles per hour secure in the knowledge that repairs are scheduled for next Tuesday. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE min-width problem
Tania Morris wrote:
You can look at the beta site at
http://dev.papercutmedia.com/perthjazz/
BTW - you have a little script error:
Error: missing } in compound statement
Source File: http://dev.papercutmedia.com/perthjazz/
Line: 120, Column: 40
Source Code:
if(typeof sIFR == function){ sIFR();
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