Re: [WSG] Styling of

[Andrew Krespanis]

This element is generally 'unstylable' for security reasons; namely
ensuring the user is aware of what they're doing.

Did you search first?
http://www.google.com/search?q=CSS+input+type%3D%22file%22&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official

The first result is about as good of  write up as you're likely to find.

On 3/10/06, Soeren Mordhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear WSG,
>
> for an  we like to design the button and, if
> possible, the background-color for focus.
> Does anybody know how to do that?
>
> The link in the fieldset 'Upload a file to the W3C Validator.':
> http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/check.html
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> All the best,
>
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Re: [WSG] page break when printing

[Ray Cauchi]

I would think this is legitimate and semantic use of multiple 's

anyone for bending the page-break-X rules a little??

At 01:57 PM 10/03/2006, Jack Pivac wrote:

on 10/03/06 13:56 Lachlan Hunt said the following:

I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.


With that many, you may be overusing/abusing the div element.  It's 
a common mistake, often referred to as "div-mania" (or something 
along those lines).  You should probably try and find more semantic elements.


So in this case
http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/tab/test.html

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Re: [WSG] page break when printing

[Jack Pivac]

on 10/03/06 13:56 Lachlan Hunt said the following:

I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.



With that many, you may be overusing/abusing the div element.  It's a 
common mistake, often referred to as "div-mania" (or something along 
those lines).  You should probably try and find more semantic elements.


So in this case
http://temp.delphinus.co.nz/tab/test.html

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RE: [WSG] page break when printing

[Paul Bennett]

>common mistake, often referred to as "div-mania" (or something along 

It's famous!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divitis
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Re: [WSG] page break when printing

[Lachlan Hunt]

Jack Pivac wrote:

I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.


With that many, you may be overusing/abusing the div element.  It's a 
common mistake, often referred to as "div-mania" (or something along 
those lines).  You should probably try and find more semantic elements.


Unfortunately when printing they sometimes get divided between 2 
pages... is there any way round this?


http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/page.html#propdef-page-break-inside

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Re: [WSG] page break when printing

[Joseph R. B. Taylor]

Look up "page-break-before" and "page-break-after" in google for 
explanations and how to use in your particular case.


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Jack Pivac wrote:

I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.
Unfortunately when printing they sometimes get divided between 2 
pages... is there any way round this?
Its for an internal thing, so it doesn't _have_ to work with IE, just FF 
will be fine, but IE'ness would be nice.


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[WSG] page break when printing

[Jack Pivac]

I have a page with about 20-30 div's each about 200-300px height.
Unfortunately when printing they sometimes get divided between 2 
pages... is there any way round this?
Its for an internal thing, so it doesn't _have_ to work with IE, just FF 
will be fine, but IE'ness would be nice.


Cheers,
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RE: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[J Verburgh]

This appears to work, thanks!

Jeroen

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always be > 800px right?




On 3/9/06 4:47 PM, "J Verburgh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would like to know if there's a way to make the wrapper-div, stop
> shrinking when it gets down to the inner-div -- which has a fixed width of
> 800px.

Maybe this?

http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/pie-calc.php

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Re: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[Tom Livingston]

On 3/9/06 4:47 PM, "J Verburgh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would like to know if there's a way to make the wrapper-div, stop
> shrinking when it gets down to the inner-div -- which has a fixed width of
> 800px.

Maybe this?

http://www.positioniseverything.net/articles/sidepages/pie-calc.php

HTH

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RE: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[J Verburgh]

Yes I can, but then it still wont work in IE... I would really like to get
it working in IE, since that's the browser most people who will be visiting
the site are using.

I would like to know if there's a way to make the wrapper-div, stop
shrinking when it gets down to the inner-div -- which has a fixed width of
800px.

I could get it to work using tables, but I'm trying to stick to XHTML 1.0
Strict, so i prefer to use divs.

In frontpage HTML, it might look something like this:




  

  

  
 This will fill the screen, but will always be atleast 800px
wide
  

  


  




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always be > 800px right?




On 3/9/06 3:20 PM, "Joseph R. B. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Go to Al's site (projectvii.com?) and he has a nice javascript that
> checks for IE and handles the non-support of min-width by adding a width
> declaration at run-time.

Can't you just do a conditional comment for IE, giving the element a width
declaration, leaving min-width in the main style for real... er... I mean
other browsers?


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RE: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[J Verburgh]

Thanks, I'll take a look.

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Onderwerp: Re: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should
always be > 800px right?

Go to Al's site (projectvii.com?) and he has a nice javascript that 
checks for IE and handles the non-support of min-width by adding a width 
declaration at run-time.

Works great.

Joseph R. B. Taylor
Sites by Joe, LLC
http://sitesbyjoe.com
(609)335-3076
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

J Verburgh wrote:
> Hi, I just encountered a problem with IE. I want to make this website look
> like it's divided in a top and a bottom half. But i want it to be atleast
> 800px wide. FireFox supports min-width, but IE doesn't support this. So,
> everything works great until the browser's width is less than 800px. I
want
> the background to span the entire width of the screen.
> 
> The setup is as follows:
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   Menu items
> 
> 
>   Page body/content
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> Info body/content
>   
> 
> 
> 
> It appears like the  and  are being clipped
to
> the width of the webbrowser, if it's < 800px. Is there a way around this?
> 
> 
> Here's the website:
> http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/
> 
> Here's an example of what i mean:
> http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/example.jpg
> 
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Sincerely yours,
> Jeroen
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Re: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[Tom Livingston]

On 3/9/06 3:20 PM, "Joseph R. B. Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Go to Al's site (projectvii.com?) and he has a nice javascript that
> checks for IE and handles the non-support of min-width by adding a width
> declaration at run-time.

Can't you just do a conditional comment for IE, giving the element a width
declaration, leaving min-width in the main style for real... er... I mean
other browsers?


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Re: [WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

I didn't understand the "cut-off" thing you mentioned. I'm not seeing
 anything cut off. Could you elaborate, please.


It's that 'AD: Contact Us...' image.
Not much you can do about it, I guess.

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Re: [WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[Joseph R. B. Taylor]

Go to Al's site (projectvii.com?) and he has a nice javascript that 
checks for IE and handles the non-support of min-width by adding a width 
declaration at run-time.


Works great.

Joseph R. B. Taylor
Sites by Joe, LLC
http://sitesbyjoe.com
(609)335-3076
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

J Verburgh wrote:

Hi, I just encountered a problem with IE. I want to make this website look
like it's divided in a top and a bottom half. But i want it to be atleast
800px wide. FireFox supports min-width, but IE doesn't support this. So,
everything works great until the browser's width is less than 800px. I want
the background to span the entire width of the screen.

The setup is as follows:



  

  Menu items


  Page body/content

  





  
Info body/content
  



It appears like the  and  are being clipped to
the width of the webbrowser, if it's < 800px. Is there a way around this?


Here's the website:
http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/

Here's an example of what i mean:
http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/example.jpg


Thanks for your help.

Sincerely yours,
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Re: [WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

[Mike at Green-Beast.com]

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You've triggered the 'em font-resizing bug' in IE/win...

...by starting off with 'em' as unit.

Fluidity make fixed-width container look a bit "cut off" on that page,
on window-widths slightly narrower than 1000px.

MIME-type problems are best solved server-side.
That  doesn't matter much (or at all) to browsers once they
have been told to use a MIME-type by the server. Seems to be 'text/html'
alright.
However, 'application/xhtml+xml' won't do any good in IE anyway - since
IE/win doesn't understand what XHTML is all about. Better change that
DTD to XHTML 1.0 Strict, or change the whole thing to HTML 4.01 Strict,
and keep on serving your pages as 'text/html'.
More info...


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Thanks Georg,

I fixed the font-size thing. Oddly I usually set a percentage to start 
(100.1% usually). Don't know why I didn't do that this time. Good find.

I'll change the DTD to xhtml 1.0 strict later since there all I have to do 
is change the DTD. I actually have some script to generate that. All I have 
to do is adjust it.

I didn't understand the "cut-off" thing you mentioned. I'm not seeing 
anything cut off. Could you elaborate, please.

Thanks for the great feedback.

Sincerely,
Mike Cherim 

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Re: [WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

[Gunlaug Sørtun]

Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:


We just created a new tool and launched the beta interface [1].


The interface is new for me in a couple of ways. It's my first 
"fluid" site (I usually make fixed-width sites or jump right past 
fluid to elastic). It's also the first site I made to the XHTML 1.1 
DTD. I'm sending it as application/xhtml+xml, but the browser is 
still processing the code as text/html (give me comments on this, 
please).


[1] http://graybit.com


You've triggered the 'em font-resizing bug' in IE/win...

...by starting off with 'em' as unit.

Fluidity make fixed-width container look a bit "cut off" on that page,
on window-widths slightly narrower than 1000px.

MIME-type problems are best solved server-side.
That  doesn't matter much (or at all) to browsers once they
have been told to use a MIME-type by the server. Seems to be 'text/html'
alright.
However, 'application/xhtml+xml' won't do any good in IE anyway - since
IE/win doesn't understand what XHTML is all about. Better change that
DTD to XHTML 1.0 Strict, or change the whole thing to HTML 4.01 Strict,
and keep on serving your pages as 'text/html'.
More info...


regards
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[WSG] div width: 100% with a div width 800px inside should always be > 800px right?

[J Verburgh]

Hi, I just encountered a problem with IE. I want to make this website look
like it's divided in a top and a bottom half. But i want it to be atleast
800px wide. FireFox supports min-width, but IE doesn't support this. So,
everything works great until the browser's width is less than 800px. I want
the background to span the entire width of the screen.

The setup is as follows:



  

  Menu items


  Page body/content

  





  
Info body/content
  



It appears like the  and  are being clipped to
the width of the webbrowser, if it's < 800px. Is there a way around this?


Here's the website:
http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/

Here's an example of what i mean:
http://www.verburgh.homeip.net/jc/example.jpg


Thanks for your help.

Sincerely yours,
Jeroen

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Re: [WSG] IE Reverse Indent ?

[Kevin Ross]

Again, gentlemen... Thanks VERY MUCH for your help.Regards,Kevin.On 3/9/06, Paul Novitski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:At 08:23 PM 3/8/2006, Ben Buchanan wrote:>That's pretty much the rub of it all, for me! :) If only Microsoft had
>created a proprietary comment system for CSS, at least it would have>been useful without so many downsides.That so typifies Microsoft's schizophrenia.  They're such a largeorganization, they must have hundreds if not thousands of creative
directions happening simultaneously: hordes of brilliant geeks,impossible to wrangle.  It's such a shame that they weren't on theweb standards page early enough to foresee the importance ofseparating presentation from content from logic.  Convert the latest
Word or Excel document to HTML and you'll see the worst practices rampant.Earlier this century I scrambled from the leaky rowboat of ASP ontothe running board of the steam locomotive of ASP.Net, thenimmediately realized I was only penetrating farther into the murky
tunnel of death.  The .Net technology seemed to merge logic withmarkup and style even more densely than before, keyed particularly toIE's quirks, making it more difficult, not easier, to achieve decentweb standards with Microsoft's proprietary technology.  Who knows,
perhaps I was short-sighted and those who have plunged deeply into.Net have found ways to separate them cleanly, but I don't for amoment regret my decision to leap from the sinking Microsoft tankerto the skimming PHP skiff.  PHP doesn't require clean separation but
it sure as hell helps us achieve it.I wonder how our work would be different today if the designers ofCSS had foreseen the chaos that's resulted from our trying to getstyles to work cross-browser.  Would they have built
browser-version-conditional branching into CSS?  I doubtit.  Browser-sniffers are only as dependable as the browsers'willingness not to spoof, which is to say not much.  And we'd stillbe hacking our way around browsers written early enough not to know
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[WSG] Announcing GrayBit v0.5 Beta

[Mike at Green-Beast.com]

Hey gang,

We just created a new tool and launched the beta interface [1]. It's a 
contrast accessibility tool of sorts, but different. It does some neat 
stuff. The best way to understand it is to just try it.

Being it's in beta, we're keen on feedback. You can respond here or use our 
form [2]. We do know that it doesn't handle PNG transparencies as well as it 
could (in IE), and it will disable some site's javascripts (but still seems 
to serve its purpose all the same). It works on sites using CSS (hex code 
colors, color names, or RGB) but won't work well on older sites using 
tags'n'tables. But then again the people who make sites like that probably 
wouldn't have much interest in this anyway.

The interface is new for me in a couple of ways. It's my first "fluid" site 
(I usually make fixed-width sites or jump right past fluid to elastic). It's 
also the first site I made to the XHTML 1.1 DTD. I'm sending it as 
application/xhtml+xml, but the browser is still processing the code as 
text/html (give me comments on this, please). It's also my first PHP-only 
site. I usually make PHP sites, but they have some PHP and some static 
mark-up. These pages are pure PHP, dynamic. First thing on the page is . Nary a break in between. You should find it very 
accessible and very usable. I took three days on this interface crossing my 
"t"s and dotting my "i"s.

It was a fun project.

Thanks in advance to all who have a look and comment one way or the other.

[1] http://graybit.com
[2] http://graybit.com/talk/


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[WSG] Styling of

[Soeren Mordhorst]

Dear WSG,

for an  we like to design the button and, if 
possible, the background-color for focus.

Does anybody know how to do that?

The link in the fieldset 'Upload a file to the W3C Validator.':
http://www.webnauts.net/redesign/check.html

Thanks in advance!

All the best,

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[WSG] Validate -nolayer?

[Bruce]

I'm getting this and find nothing on a search: element "nolayer" undefined

It's part of an existing site forms so have to keep it as far as I 
knowhow do you "define" nolayer?


Thanks

Bruce

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check




Joshua Street wrote:

No help there right now, coz I'm at home and without access to IE,
BUT... I do have a bug report for you.

Firefox 1.0.x/Linux (and presumably on every other platform, and
probably 1.5 also) your "menubase.gif" background for the
"Destinations" menu (left column) really isn't working too well. I
sized the text up and down and still couldn't get it to match the
lines in the background image. You probably should seriously think
about putting that background on the LI instead, because it's...
moderately broken at the minute (I imagine it could/would also be
broken in IE at non-default (or even default) text sizes, too).

That aside, I like the site... especially the front page... nifty
boxes! (Mind you, the smaller square content boxes are doing some
funky stuff with enable/disable CSS with web developer's toolbar in
Firefox... suffice to say you won't have too many people with that
problem outside this list! ;-))

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Thanks Josh,

I see the menu situation now thanks, will throw it into the li.
I have no idea what you mean when disabling css and the boxes on main 
page, they are all background images in the stylesheet so when I disable 
styles they dont show...


Feedback is appreciated thanks! This one was a big job and continuing but 
very close to releasable..



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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check

[Bruce]

Joshua Street wrote:

No help there right now, coz I'm at home and without access to IE,
BUT... I do have a bug report for you.

Firefox 1.0.x/Linux (and presumably on every other platform, and
probably 1.5 also) your "menubase.gif" background for the
"Destinations" menu (left column) really isn't working too well. I
sized the text up and down and still couldn't get it to match the
lines in the background image. You probably should seriously think
about putting that background on the LI instead, because it's...
moderately broken at the minute (I imagine it could/would also be
broken in IE at non-default (or even default) text sizes, too).

That aside, I like the site... especially the front page... nifty
boxes! (Mind you, the smaller square content boxes are doing some
funky stuff with enable/disable CSS with web developer's toolbar in
Firefox... suffice to say you won't have too many people with that
problem outside this list! ;-))

Josh
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Thanks Josh,

I see the menu situation now thanks, will throw it into the li.
I have no idea what you mean when disabling css and the boxes on main page, 
they are all background images in the stylesheet so when I disable styles 
they dont show...


Feedback is appreciated thanks! This one was a big job and continuing but 
very close to releasable..



Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign Solutions

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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check

[Bruce]

I noticed just after I posted that it wasn't the 
menu as front page was fine. Am checking widths
Overflow hidden fixed, but that isn't really a 
fix.
Thanks!!
 
Bruce

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:24 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site 
  Check
  
  Hi Bruce,
   
  I think you are looking in the wrong place. The 
  issue is not with your menu!!
   
  It looks to me like your 3rd column is pushing 
  the main container out beyond it's intended width of 770px. Good 
  luck!!
   
  Cheers
   
  Nathan
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Bruce 
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:10 
PM
Subject: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site 
Check

Hi all,
 
I have a large site launch in a few days at a 
big show in Germany. 
Now I have the top menu with a 10-12px gap at 
the end which I cannot remove no matter what I do. Its only in IE (figures). 
If I try making it wider it breaks, and is perfect in FF.
It has to be a padding issue but cannot figure 
it out.
Page is fixed width, 770px.
html and css is here:
http://www.bkdesign.ca/menu.txt
 
Site:
http://69.94.122.44/new.php?/caribbean/category/antiqua/
 
If anyone has an idea it would be really 
appreciated.
 
Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign 
Solutions

Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check

[Joshua Street]

On 3/9/06, Bruce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Site:
> http://69.94.122.44/new.php?/caribbean/category/antiqua/

No help there right now, coz I'm at home and without access to IE,
BUT... I do have a bug report for you.

Firefox 1.0.x/Linux (and presumably on every other platform, and
probably 1.5 also) your "menubase.gif" background for the
"Destinations" menu (left column) really isn't working too well. I
sized the text up and down and still couldn't get it to match the
lines in the background image. You probably should seriously think
about putting that background on the LI instead, because it's...
moderately broken at the minute (I imagine it could/would also be
broken in IE at non-default (or even default) text sizes, too).

That aside, I like the site... especially the front page... nifty
boxes! (Mind you, the smaller square content boxes are doing some
funky stuff with enable/disable CSS with web developer's toolbar in
Firefox... suffice to say you won't have too many people with that
problem outside this list! ;-))

Josh
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Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check Fixed

[Bruce]

Now I know why I never write in. Ten minutes after 
sending this I found the problem,,, rather fixed it.
Overflow hidden on the wrapper did the trick, 
something was forcing the site wider.
Spent hours not being able to fix it, write to the 
list and find it in ten minutes.
 
Conclusion? Looks like the way to fix the 
unsolvable is to write to the group, even if no body answers the answer comes 
anyways  lol
 
Bruce

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bruce 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:10 
  AM
  Subject: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site 
  Check
  
  Hi all,
   
  I have a large site launch in a few days at a big 
  show in Germany. 
  Now I have the top menu with a 10-12px gap at the 
  end which I cannot remove no matter what I do. Its only in IE (figures). If I 
  try making it wider it breaks, and is perfect in FF.
  It has to be a padding issue but cannot figure it 
  out.
  Page is fixed width, 770px.
  html and css is here:
  http://www.bkdesign.ca/menu.txt
   
  Site:
  http://69.94.122.44/new.php?/caribbean/category/antiqua/
   
  If anyone has an idea it would be really 
  appreciated.
   
  Bruce Prochnau
  BKDesign 
Solutions

Re: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check

[leenath1]

Hi Bruce,
 
I think you are looking in the wrong place. The 
issue is not with your menu!!
 
It looks to me like your 3rd column is pushing the 
main container out beyond it's intended width of 770px. Good 
luck!!
 
Cheers
 
Nathan

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bruce 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 7:10 
  PM
  Subject: [WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site 
  Check
  
  Hi all,
   
  I have a large site launch in a few days at a big 
  show in Germany. 
  Now I have the top menu with a 10-12px gap at the 
  end which I cannot remove no matter what I do. Its only in IE (figures). If I 
  try making it wider it breaks, and is perfect in FF.
  It has to be a padding issue but cannot figure it 
  out.
  Page is fixed width, 770px.
  html and css is here:
  http://www.bkdesign.ca/menu.txt
   
  Site:
  http://69.94.122.44/new.php?/caribbean/category/antiqua/
   
  If anyone has an idea it would be really 
  appreciated.
   
  Bruce Prochnau
  BKDesign 
Solutions

[WSG] Horizontal Menu- Site Check

[Bruce]

Hi all,
 
I have a large site launch in a few days at a big 
show in Germany. 
Now I have the top menu with a 10-12px gap at the 
end which I cannot remove no matter what I do. Its only in IE (figures). If I 
try making it wider it breaks, and is perfect in FF.
It has to be a padding issue but cannot figure it 
out.
Page is fixed width, 770px.
html and css is here:
http://www.bkdesign.ca/menu.txt
 
Site:
http://69.94.122.44/new.php?/caribbean/category/antiqua/
 
If anyone has an idea it would be really 
appreciated.
 
Bruce Prochnau
BKDesign Solutions