Re: [WSG] MS Smart Tags

2007-04-19 Thread Ben Buchanan
Hi Elle, It might sound silly but I first found out about MS Smart Tags yesterday. I found an article on ALA about them from 2001. Just wanted to ask, does anyone know what happened with them since? And would the meta tag: work? or is it still necessary? Even MS eventually had to accept it wa

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread John Foliot
Michael MD wrote: > > btw that "99.99%" was never intended to be used as some kind of > reliable statistic! > so please don't quote it as such! > - it was only a guess about something - perhaps I should have just > said something like "most"... :-) Yep, I know that. The point is that too often w

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread John Foliot
Terrence Wood wrote: > John Foliot wrote: >> semi-credible stats showing that 4% of users cannot (do not?) support >> JavaScript [http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/March/javas.php] > > Granted, this appears to be more reliable than 99.9% - but isn't > javascript required in order for thecounter

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread Michael MD
John Foliot wrote: semi-credible stats showing that 4% of users cannot (do not?) support JavaScript [http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/March/javas.php] Granted, this appears to be more reliable than 99.9% - but isn't javascript required in order for thecounter.com to gather stats, or do th

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
My good people, It's really a matter of simple common sense. Yes, we want to cater to the largest possible audience. But in all reality, unless our site in question is the first web page someone has ever encountered, they'll understand that whether they click, press enter or any other possible

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread Terrence Wood
John Foliot wrote: > semi-credible stats showing that 4% of users cannot (do not?) support > JavaScript [http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/March/javas.php] Granted, this appears to be more reliable than 99.9% - but isn't javascript required in order for thecounter.com to gather stats, or do the

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread Terrence Wood
John Faulds: > Surely people recognise links enough that they don't need to be told to > click every single one? I agree. The verb ('click here', 'go to' etc) really shouldn't form part of the link text. kind regards Terrence Wood. ***

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread Helen Morgan
Hi John, Do you ever find that your solution causes you page layout problems (that is, including the uri as the link text)? When I first encountered “web standards” folk, it was suggested to me that including uris as link text wasn’t ideal for accessibility reasons, because of screen readers

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread John Foliot
James Leslie wrote: > On a related note, though not involving galleries, I find a lot of > our clients want to have linked text along the lines of "Click here > for more details on product x". I have managed to fairly much insist > that we always use the entire sentence as a link to show context, >

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread John Faulds
Doesn't "More details on product x" mean exactly the same thing as "Click here for more details on product x" if the whole line is a link? Surely people recognise links enough that they don't need to be told to click every single one? On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:10:12 +1000, James Leslie <[E

[WSG] Caching / preloading images

2007-04-19 Thread Pierre-Henri Lavigne
Good day all, I am seeking informations about rendering a fluid site visit, I mean avoiding the most possible "waiting time / loading animation". For an online shop which will contain 4 "modules" on the same page : * Long list menu with a window decorate image for every text link rollover * man

Re: [WSG] making tables/rows/cells in IE lose their "tableness" via CSS

2007-04-19 Thread Jan Brasna
Yeah, it was quite wild as I remember ... The other day I was playing with Eric's CSS Charts and wanted to have the actual data in table, repositioning them somehow for display. It was rather hacking the elements to the position. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.w

[WSG] MS Smart Tags

2007-04-19 Thread Elle Meredith
Hi, It might sound silly but I first found out about MS Smart Tags yesterday. I found an article on ALA about them from 2001. Just wanted to ask, does anyone know what happened with them since? And would the meta tag: content="true" /> work? or is it still necessary? Cheers, Elle *

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread James Leslie
On a related note, though not involving galleries, I find a lot of our clients want to have linked text along the lines of "Click here for more details on product x". I have managed to fairly much insist that we always use the entire sentence as a link to show context, rather than just the "click h

RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say "click"?

2007-04-19 Thread John Foliot
Michael MD wrote: > interesting discussion > > I get a lot of mobile phone users here. > "click" would definately not be a suitable word to use on any page > mobile phone users are likely to look at. > > ...however I might use that word on pages that require javascript > such as those that us

Re: [WSG] input name and id

2007-04-19 Thread liorean
On 19/04/07, Nick Fitzsimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A DTD is perfectly capable of specifying that an attribute is required: it uses the syntax #REQUIRED. The spec for the name attribute of the input element states that it is #IMPLIED, not #REQUIRED, therefore it is not correct to say that the

Re: [WSG] input name and id

2007-04-19 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 19 Apr 2007, at 12:03:22, liorean wrote: On 16/04/07, Nick Fitzsimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Name and ID serve two different purposes. ID is used to identify the element's node in the document [1]. Name is used to identify the element's value in the form submission posted back to the ser

Re: [WSG] input name and id

2007-04-19 Thread liorean
On 16/04/07, Nick Fitzsimons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Name and ID serve two different purposes. ID is used to identify the element's node in the document [1]. Name is used to identify the element's value in the form submission posted back to the server [2]. OTOH, according to the HTML 4.01 Str