On 5 Jun 2007, at 19:22, Paul Novitski wrote:
The FIELDSET definition could easily have included:
(INPUT|SELECT|TEXTAREA|BUTTON)+
or:
(%formctrl)+
But it doesn't.
And if it did then the fieldset couldn't contain elements that add
extra semantic information about the form
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're looking for is
'pedantry'.
Pedanticity?
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On 06/06/07, Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're looking for is
'pedantry'.
Pedanticity?
Isn't that where they all go
okay, I hate to play post-police, but...
can someone explain to me what this has to do with web standards?
Nick Gleitzman wrote:
On 6 Jun 2007, at 2:59 PM, John Faulds wrote:
Well if we're going to talk about 'pedanticness' it has to be pointed
out that there's no such word; the word you're
On 06/06/07, Raine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
okay, I hate to play post-police, but...
can someone explain to me what this has to do with web standards?
You really have to ask what pedantry has to do with web standards..!? ;)
Dave Lane schreef:
Drupal uses php as its template language, too, which is a breath of
fresh air (given that PHP *is* a template language, I find it amusing
that so many people insist on inventing new templating languages
written in PHP but with different syntaxes and without all of PHP's
Let me be so bold as to nip this thread in the bud via one trip to the
dictionary:
pedantic definition
adj.
Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning
and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.
pedantic synonyms
adjective
Characterized by a narrow concern
OK, people - enough fun and games.
Lets try and keep the posts on topic and valuable, eh?
:)
warmly,
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Raine wrote:
Let me be so bold as to nip this thread in the bud...
Gee, sorry. I just thought, given the intensity that some people
display here, a little levity every now and then helps the medicine go
down - or something... Look what fun we can have:
... often tiresome ... display ...
Lucien Stals wrote:
It seems to me that many people here have different ideas about what
semantic means. It would be helpful it we shared a common
understanding in our conversations. I welcome, and invite, a *polite
and professional* debate about the use of the term semantic as it
relates to
On 2007/06/04 12:33 (GMT-0400) Philip Kiff apparently typed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2007/06/02 11:06 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed:
Sparked partly by the recent discussions on elasticity, I've been
attempting to put together a 'template', based on em's and with a
max-width.
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At 6/6/2007 01:13 AM, David Dorward wrote:
On 5 Jun 2007, at 19:22, Paul Novitski wrote:
The FIELDSET definition could easily have included:
(INPUT|SELECT|TEXTAREA|BUTTON)+
or:
(%formctrl)+
But it doesn't.
And if it did then the fieldset couldn't contain elements that add
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Hey Folks,
was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for part
of a web application i'm developing.
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Felix Miata wrote:
All that said, the way I judge the readability of any page is by the size of
the bulk of its content and main navigation, not by a couple of minimal
importance non-primary-content lines it contains.
By that standard, Bob's is a substantial distance from comfortable to read,
On Behalf Of Ryan Moore
was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.
plug src=http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp; /
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Sent: 06 June 2007 19:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example
Hey
On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Ryan Moore wrote:
was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu
for part of a web application i'm developing.
I've used this very simple package many times. http://
www.projectseven.com/tutorials/navigation/auto_hide/
Paul
thanks, this is a great solution :)
On 6/6/07, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Behalf Of Ryan Moore
was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.
plug
Bob,
You have to take everything that Felix says with a grain of salt to
say the least.
Don't get into a p***ing contest with his judgement of font sizes.
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On Jun 6, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Designer wrote:
Felix
On Behalf Of Ryan Moore
was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.
From Thierry
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HTH
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On 2007/06/06 19:45 (GMT+0100) Designer apparently typed:
Felix Miata wrote:
All that said, the way I judge the readability of any page is by the size of
the bulk of its content and main navigation, not by a couple of minimal
importance non-primary-content lines it contains.
By that
Hi can anyone suggest how i might get this definition list to wrap around
the thumb image which is inside the h2 tag. It wraps in ff and safari
and netscape but not in ie:
I cant move the image out of the h2 its dynamically generated from the
cms.
heres the url:
On 7 Jun 2007, at 8:34 AM, kevin mcmonagle wrote:
Hi can anyone suggest how i might get this definition list to wrap
around
First, and always, validate your code. Your dl doesn't contain a
dt...
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Thierry Koblentz schreef:
plug src=http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp; /
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in Opera
9 and Firefox 2.
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have you tried floating the image to the left?
and do you really need an extra span tag around the link?
and as Nick said try and validate your code first.
cheers.
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Paul Novitski schreef:
documents be written according to the prose of the specification and
not just the machine readable components of it.
The DTD almost always errs towards the liberal, it is expected that
That's a very interesting assertion and gets right to the heart of
many of the
Lucien Stals wrote:
A DIV (and a SPAN for that matter) are purely structural, not
semantic.
The only difference between a div and a span is that one is a block
level
element, and the other is an inline element. Apart from that, they
have
the same semantic meaning, which is none at all.
And
On Behalf Of Sander Aarts
Thierry Koblentz schreef:
plug
src=http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp; /
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in
Opera
9 and Firefox 2.
Please try again, I just noticed that I commented a return false
Hello everyone,
I think this is my first post, which is sort of embarrassing. I can't
find a css error, deadlines are looming, and I'm just not seeing the
problem.
In brief - I'm instituting a you are here in the navigation. The
site's default navigation style (in an external style sheet)
The magic of asking for help.
17 seconds after I sent the email, I saw the problem and fixed it.
Thanks for just being here. ;)
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style type=text/css
#every_page #index, #every_page #index:hover { color: #4F; background:
#003173; cursor: default;}
/style
should do it (you're also missing the # from index:hover).
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wrote:
#every_page
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#every_page li a {
display: block;
height: 1em;
padding: .6em;
font-size: small;
text-decoration: none;
color: #999;
background-color: #4F;
}
#every_page li a:hover {
background-color: #999;
color: #000;
}
This works just fine.
So in the internal
Thanks John.
Once I realized the problem was a specificity issue, I changed the
internal style block to:
li#index a, li#index a:hover ...
Which is not quite what you did, but it's similar.
Yours is better, it's more explicit about what is being styled.
John Faulds wrote:
style
In case you hadn't heard:
http://www.avinio.blogspot.com/2007/06/netscape-navigator-90-released-first.
html
http://browser.netscape.com/
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On 7 Jun 2007, at 2:25 PM, JS Bracher wrote:
Once I realized the problem was a specificity issue, I changed the
internal style block to:
li#index a, li#index a:hover ...
Hopefully you changed the HTML as well, because the sample you
originally posted had the id of 'index' on the a, not
On Behalf Of JS Bracher
Once I realized the problem was a specificity issue, I changed the
internal style block to:
li#index a, li#index a:hover ...
Which is not quite what you did, but it's similar.
Actually, the above should *not* work as index is not the ID of an LI, but an
A
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Maybe I used a poor example.
Microformats would certainly be my first choice for this. I just wish
there was *more* software that could use it. And a plugin to add
microformat data into a groupwise client. That would be nice :)
I have no idea what groupwise is but could a user script could
Groupwise is a Novel client (and server) for email and appointments
etc. Think MS Outlook, by Novel. It's the proprietary email client and
address book and calendar app we are obliged to use at work. It even
comes with it's own chat client that doesn't talk to any other chat
protocols.
Being a
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