Re: [WSG] Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser!

2007-07-22 Thread Jixor - Stephen I

Jermayn,

Use a content-disposition header to force a download so that the user 
doesn't have to have their browser potentially crippled by Acrobat and 
its easy to save for later viewing.


Content-disposition: attachment; filename=document.pdf



Jermayn Parker wrote:

pdfs are not going to go away (and docs are not the answer)

in Nielsons article (who is over rated and take his opinion with a
grain of salt) he says pdfs are for print and I agree but for most
Government websites they need these pdfs that we all hate and as I said
in an earlier email html versions is not always an option.

So the question remains how do we make a linked pdf presented and
operational the best??




  

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On 2007/07/19 11:23 (GMT+1000) Webb, KerryA apparently typed:

  

Jermayn wrote:



  

I work at one of the those government places that has those
  

horrible
  

pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt
  

agree
  

more.
  


  

And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a


problem
  

with PDFs per se.



As a rule, I do. Most are apparently made by and for the people who
design
inaccessible mousetype web sites, not for normal or low vision web
users.

  

If that's an efficient and effective way to publish a document, let


them

Efficient and effective only from a publisher's perspective, not from
a
user's perspective. Pdfs are for printing. Ecologically aware people
are not
interested in killing trees just to get a little freely available
information.

  

do it - providing the PDF is properly marked up.



It's rare that pdfs are published to be univerally accessible, so the
end
result is that as a group, pdfs are a scourge. Nielsen is too polite
about
it: http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030714.html 
  




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[WSG] Floats Drifting

2007-07-22 Thread CK

Hi,

This seemingly simple layout is causing IE to behave badly

Desired:

http://working.bushidodeep.com/summer_2007/test/bc/desired.png
(http://working.bushidodeep.com/summer_2007/test/template_02.php)


IE:
http://working.bushidodeep.com/summer_2007/test/bc/ie_01.png
http://working.bushidodeep.com/summer_2007/test/bc/ie_02.png

Would someone assist in containing the floats?

CK




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RE: [WSG] Floats Drifting

2007-07-22 Thread Kepler Gelotte


Would someone assist in containing the floats?

Hi,

Seems to be a number of issues with your layout. The 2 main ones would be
the footer should use clear: both instead of absolute positioning:

div#bd_footer {
background-color:#FF;
padding:10px;
clear:both;
width:75%;
}

The floated divs should not used fixed padding and percentage widths as you
run the risk of wrapping (also you only specified 3 values in padding.):

div#bd_primary {
background-color:#FF;
float:left;
padding:2% 2% 5% 2%;
width:50%;
}

IE interprets min-height/min-width differently than you may expect. I see
some hacks in your CSS so maybe you were trying to address that already.

I think there are other issues maybe someone else will spot.

Regards



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