[WSG] My Website query
Hi. 1. well, need to download the ati radian display drivers for this Del Latitude laptop. so that is why jaws not reading properly. 2. now, could you take a look at my site, and let me know, how to increase the font, or maybe change it from percentage font size to actual font point size. if you have any vision, or maybe ask some sighted colleagues or friends, what sizes, for all elements on the page do i need to change it to? maybe you have some web designers, you know. if i download jaws 9.1, what performance would i get out of this upgrade? any use to download and install this one? 3. now, was wondering, could you take a look at my 80s history page. if my parents stumbled on to it, might get the fourth degree. so can you take a look at the content, and maybe suggest, how i could maybe tone down the information, or tone down the way the text is written to be more appealing to those reading it, and maybe even be a bit more conservative. 4. now, looking for some accessability tools to check to see if my pages pass all vallidation, for people with all sorts of disabilities, like colour blind, colour dependent, flickering, and passes all vallidation via w3c, and also section 508. can you suggest some tools, and also, to check for correct colour, broken links, and maybe off line, as not always on the net, so i could download and run andcheck off line, as editing off line at the moment. if you can help, or pass on my message maybe to some of those that you do know, that could help, let me know asap. 5. Now, when i read using the paragraph mode, when i go to my headings and list of links, the navigation and the Other links, read all in one list, but on the Star Trek Links , they read one at a time using paragraph mode. How can i get all the links to read the same on the page? cheers Marvin. -- http://startrekcafe.stevesdomain.net/ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/JawsOz/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility and Joomla
I believe that with the new version (1.5) it is much easier to make sites accessible. And thanks William for your suggestion of DW extensions. I did a search and found one that looks really good. It's expensive ($US100) but has great reviews on the Joomla extensions site, and includes a 1 hour training video. And it's all about the Joomla 'template' which is where all the formatting/CSS is organised. My work will hopefully buy this for me (grin) We shall see ... :) On 23/5/08 12:19 PM, "dwain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/22/08, Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> I'm just starting to (try to!) learn Joomla as I'm going to have to use it >> on a few upcoming sites. Having looked at the html output as I work through >> some of the tutorials, I'm wondering how accessible sites created in Joomla >> are, and if anyone has any experience/knowledge of good sites to help in >> this area ... ? > > i saw a joomla site last night that had considerable accessibility > issues with it. it didn't even pass the wai module in ff web dev tool > bar. > dwain *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] accessibility/usability in a poll: check a radio button when focusing on a text input field
If you didn't want to use JS at all - you could put some basic logic in the
action script that processes the form. If the user wrote something in the
"other" option, then it is pretty simple to simply change the radiobutton
values accordingly before doing final processing (like emailing to the
admin).
JS should always be an enhancement :)
Cheers
Adam
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 2:57 PM, Julián Landerreche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi.
>
> Probably this can't be done without (unobstrusive) Javascript.
> In simple polls, sometimes there is an "Other" option that is also provided
> with a text input so visitors can give some feedback on this "other" option.
> Like this:
>
> ( ) Option 1
> (o) Option 2
> ( ) Option 3
> ( ) Other: [ "I prefer this option because..." ]
>
> The problem is:
> In that example, the user has filled in the text input on the "Other"
> option, but the selected radio is still the "Option 2"
> So, when the user focus/clicks directly on the text input field, the
> "corresponding" radio button ("Other") isn't selected. Then, he submits the
> poll, but because he didn't choose the "Other" option, he really didn't
> submit the option he thought he has chosen.
>
> The desired behavior (selecting the "Other" radio button when focusing on
> the text input field) will probably be easily achievable with some JS,
> right?
>
> But here I am, asking to this list if you know a better approach to this
> issue.
>
> Thanks.
>
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[WSG] accessibility/usability in a poll: check a radio button when focusing on a text input field
Hi.
Probably this can't be done without (unobstrusive) Javascript.
In simple polls, sometimes there is an "Other" option that is also provided
with a text input so visitors can give some feedback on this "other" option.
Like this:
( ) Option 1
(o) Option 2
( ) Option 3
( ) Other: [ "I prefer this option because..." ]
The problem is:
In that example, the user has filled in the text input on the "Other"
option, but the selected radio is still the "Option 2"
So, when the user focus/clicks directly on the text input field, the
"corresponding" radio button ("Other") isn't selected. Then, he submits the
poll, but because he didn't choose the "Other" option, he really didn't
submit the option he thought he has chosen.
The desired behavior (selecting the "Other" radio button when focusing on
the text input field) will probably be easily achievable with some JS,
right?
But here I am, asking to this list if you know a better approach to this
issue.
Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] Accessibility and Joomla
On 5/22/08, Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm just starting to (try to!) learn Joomla as I'm going to have to use it > on a few upcoming sites. Having looked at the html output as I work through > some of the tutorials, I'm wondering how accessible sites created in Joomla > are, and if anyone has any experience/knowledge of good sites to help in > this area ... ? i saw a joomla site last night that had considerable accessibility issues with it. it didn't even pass the wai module in ff web dev tool bar. dwain -- dwain alford "The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression." Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility and Joomla
Depending which version of Dreamweaver you have, There was a plug-in for Dreamweaver that assisted you in setting up Joomla templates and made sure all the keyword section where added to interface with the CMS. William > Susie Gardner-Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I¹m just starting to (try to!) learn Joomla as I¹m going to have to use > it > on a few upcoming sites. Having looked at the html output as I work > through > some of the tutorials, I¹m wondering how accessible sites created in > Joomla > are, and if anyone has any experience/knowledge of good sites to help in > this area ... ? > > Obviously I¹m going to be doing my own stylesheets and taking it out of > table layout. At the moment I¹m wondering if it¹d be easier to develop > the > site structure/CSS in Dreamweaver and then move it into Joomla. > > Cheers > Susie > > > *** > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Accessibility and Joomla
I¹m just starting to (try to!) learn Joomla as I¹m going to have to use it on a few upcoming sites. Having looked at the html output as I work through some of the tutorials, I¹m wondering how accessible sites created in Joomla are, and if anyone has any experience/knowledge of good sites to help in this area ... ? Obviously I¹m going to be doing my own stylesheets and taking it out of table layout. At the moment I¹m wondering if it¹d be easier to develop the site structure/CSS in Dreamweaver and then move it into Joomla. Cheers Susie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
Thierry Koblentz wrote: > > Does that mean we should drop the ABBR element because IE can't handle it > properly? > You have the answer: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/how-to_fix_the_ABBR_element.asp ;) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
Thierry Koblentz wrote: Does that mean we should drop the ABBR element because IE can't handle it properly? Better to just drop IE ;-) mark *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:26 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for > adding structural markup > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hassan Schroeder > >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:27 PM > >To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > >Subject: Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a > >form) for adding structural mark-up > > > > > > >Au contraire, one is enough to prove the contention wrong, > > No, its not. In this case, if any single browser breaks a related > script, then the mark-up cannot be used - working on the majority is not > enough to make it viable. Does that mean we should drop the ABBR element because IE can't handle it properly? -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
>-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hassan Schroeder >Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:27 PM >To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org >Subject: Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a >form) for adding structural mark-up > > >Au contraire, one is enough to prove the contention wrong, No, its not. In this case, if any single browser breaks a related script, then the mark-up cannot be used - working on the majority is not enough to make it viable. Since I believe we both think that the mark-up in question is inadvisable, finding a physical reason to back up the semantics would actually be a good thing. Anyway, thanks for doing two tests that I don't currently have the time for! Regards, Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
On 22 May 2008, at 11:12, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: In any case, is this just a case of the browser inserting what it thinks should be there, as with ? With tbody, the DTD says what must be there (and also that the start and end tags for tbody are optional). The DTD allows fieldset pretty much anywhere a block level element is allowed (since forms can contain pretty much any block element, and thus a fieldset needs to be allowed inside them in order to go inside forms properly). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk/ http://blog.dorward.me.uk/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] AJAX short courses london
Hi Paul, We can book you on an online course: Building Rich Internet Applications With PHP 5 and AJAX If that's of any interest? Price is about right and it runs over 6 3-hour sessions with live instructor tuition and 2-way chat. All sessions are recorded so you can play back at your convenience. Email me off-list if you are interested. Cheers, Nick Paul Collins wrote: Hi all, I hope this is on topic. I'm trying to find a short course on AJAX in london and having troubles finding one that is of a reasonable price (IE- less than £300 for a half day). Could anyone recommend me one or possibly a good school to look into? Thanks for any help, Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Nick Roper partner logical elements innovative web and internet solutions zend/php & mysql approved partner email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone: +44 1749 676798 www: www.logical.co.uk skype: nick.roper / +44 20 7870 9587 logical elements, 34 Chamberlain Street, Wells, Somerset, BA5 2PJ --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judging by how quickly you replied, I am doubtful that you managed to test every browser & version known to mankind before you replied - one or two combinations doesn't really make effective proof! Au contraire, one is enough to prove the contention wrong, but in any case, testing FF2, Safari 3, and IE7 provides the same result. Feel free to expand that to your satisfaction :-) In any case, is this just a case of the browser inserting what it thinks should be there, as with ? No. Again, easy enough to test. -- Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] AJAX short courses london
Hi all, I hope this is on topic. I'm trying to find a short course on AJAX in london and having troubles finding one that is of a reasonable price (IE- less than £300 for a half day). Could anyone recommend me one or possibly a good school to look into? Thanks for any help, Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)
My advice would be to try as hard as you can NOT to sell accessibility. Sell your overall services, but mention that your competitors 'tend' to leave their customers vulnerable to law suits, exclude customers for no good reason, etc. Tell your clients that your competitors are literally 'sub-standard'. If your client looks for a technical explanation of this, explain that your work is intended to be 'forwards-compatible', tell them that you don't expect to get any follow up work when you are finished, etc Success in any venture requires you to be different from everyone else, somehow. Regards, Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk This message does not reflect the opinions of any entity other than the author alone. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup
Judging by how quickly you replied, I am doubtful that you managed to test every browser & version known to mankind before you replied - one or two combinations doesn't really make effective proof! In any case, is this just a case of the browser inserting what it thinks should be there, as with ? Regards, Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk This message does not reflect the opinions of any entity other than the author alone. >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hassan Schroeder > >An easy theory to test, and hence, to prove utterly wrong :-) > >Not that I support the idea of using a fieldset outside a >form, but bogus is bogus... > >-- >Hassan Schroeder - [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-621-3445 === http://webtuitive.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)
>Accessibility is really not that difficult to put in place - I also believe >as professionals providing web design / development services that this >should not be an addon that we charge but part of what the client should >expect too get - imagine a builder charging you to make your house >compliant. :) I have a strong belief that here in Australia a lot of >websites are going to be tested on discrimination grounds - do you want to >be the one bearing this as the provider? Compliant? I see it (and try to explain it) in much more more obvious way - as not wanting to exclude people ... ... for any business locking out potential customers is bad! *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
