[WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues
Hi all, I have been working through an update to a site I first produced in 2003. So far I have tested and found one error in IE7. All the html validates apart from some code I cant change due to my version of Dreamweaver causing issues with and amp; CSS also validates to ver 2.1. However, when I use IE7 (still a very popular browser which I support) and go to the policy area of a product page. http://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/hotel-medium-aristol-218556.html#Policy Then roll over the link to top or booking cancelation policy, it blanks out some of the page. Can I please ask for some help as I cant see a problem with it. It may be my copy of IE7 that is in fact causing the issue. Thanks in anticipation, Kevin Ireson MD Ireson computing Ltd York England *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
I work for a small county government and we are working with a developer to setup a Drupal website. I am of the opinion that the editor can make or break the utilization of the website by our mostly not very savvy employees. If it is too hard or creates work then it will not be used or people will resist working with it. I am not at all happy with the FCK editor. I am starting to look at Time MCE and Standard. My preferences are standards compliance and semantically correct code, accessible interface (would be nice), the ability for users to copy and paste over their content and for the editor to strip the tags/formatting that are not acceptable and keep the ones that are. I need the ability to add and remove formatting options as well as rename the labels for the formatting options, especially the headers (via the administrative interface is preferable). What option do you have that might fall into this category and is there an online demo? Thanks all for helping me to keep my hair, Jim *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Tracy Gulliksen/ALIC is out of the office.
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RE: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
I'd be also be curious to learn more about any editors that can use a site's CSS. Just spent a day with FCKEditor only to find that there appears to be no way to have site CSS appear in the Style dropdown, w/o transforming the CSS into XML. For about 5 years, I've used InnovaStudio because it easily integrates use of site styles by the editor, but it's not commonly available within most CMS apps. Would like to learn about any other editors that can easily integrate with a site's CSS. Christie Mason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues
Then roll over the link to top or booking cancelation policy, it blanks out some of the page. Try the following: div style=float: left; padding: 8px;a href=http://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/;Cancellatio n policy/a/div div style=float: right; padding: 8px;a href=#topTop/a/div You may also want to make the style definitions classes instead of using inline styles. Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues
No problem in IE7 here! Bob - Original Message - From: Kevin Ireson To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 4:45 PM Subject: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues Hi all, I have been working through an update to a site I first produced in 2003. So far I have tested and found one error in IE7. All the html validates apart from some code I cant change due to my version of Dreamweaver causing issues with and amp; CSS also validates to ver 2.1. However, when I use IE7 (still a very popular browser which I support) and go to the policy area of a product page. http://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/hotel-medium-aristol-218556.html#Policy Then roll over the link to top or booking cancelation policy, it blanks out some of the page. Can I please ask for some help as I cant see a problem with it. It may be my copy of IE7 that is in fact causing the issue. Thanks in anticipation, Kevin Ireson MD Ireson computing Ltd York England *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kepler Gelotte Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 12:32 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor Just spent a day with FCKEditor only to find that there appears to be no way to have site CSS appear in the Style dropdown, w/o transforming the CSS into XML. That is not entirely accurate. The fckstyles.xml tells the editor which styles the user can apply and how to apply them. The actual CSS definition is defined in your CSS file and can be modified without updating the fckstyles.xml again. [-CM-] I'd love to know more about where and how to accomplish that. Everything I found talked about FCKConfig.EditorAreaCSS = FCKConfig.EditorAreaStyles FCKConfig.ToolbarComboPreviewCSS But that doesn't change the styles in the style drop down to the site styles Christie Mason *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
We make extensive use of TinyMCE with Drupal (we're a Drupal development shop) - it's not perfect, but it does offer a lot of flexibility regarding acceptable tags, and we've been able to get it to provide XHTML compliant code. Combined with filters like Tidy, it's possible to ensure that you don't get non-compliant code being entered. rantThe biggest issue is the complexity of cleaning up cut-pasted content from MS Word... *that's* a problem. TinyMCE offers a Paste from Word function which strips most of the rubbish from Word-produced content, but it's a pain to use... or people assume that anything coming from MS Word is clearly well suited for the web... We spend a lot of time trying to discourage people from using Word for authoring web content, because it's a very poor tool for doing so, but we have a hard time suggesting a palatable alternative (people seem to find the idea of composing content in the actual TinyMCE interface totally absurd, which doesn't make much sense to me...)./rant Regards, Dave On 27/02/10 07:32, Kepler Gelotte wrote: Just spent a day with FCKEditor only to find that there appears to be no way to have site CSS appear in the Style dropdown, w/o transforming the CSS into XML. That is not entirely accurate. The fckstyles.xml tells the editor which styles the user can apply and how to apply them. The actual CSS definition is defined in your CSS file and can be modified without updating the fckstyles.xml again. Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Dave Lane, Egressive Ltd d...@egressive.com m +64212298147 p +6439633733 http://egressive.com Free/OpenSourceSoftware: because to share is human Only use Open Standards - w3.org, Drupal powers communities - drupal.org Effusion Group http://effusiongroup.com Software Patents kill innovation *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
I used FCKeditor on a clients site - http://www.gablemarine.com/ When installed with the html purifier filter my client can create content that is entirely XHTML strict http://drupal.org/project/htmlpurifier - it helped a lot with sorting Word code too. Only thing is the client managed to build a bit of a mess on the project page when I gave him access to tables lol - won't be doing that with the next client! It was a bit of a pain to configure though as it uses its own caching system but it does a great job now it's up and running. Darren Lovelock MunkyOnline Web Design www.munkyonline.com +44 (0) 208 816 8893 Web Design Services: Brochure-style, Content Managed, E-commerce. Internet Marketing: Search Engine Optimisation, Link Building, Copywriting. -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Dave Lane Sent: 26 February 2010 19:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor We make extensive use of TinyMCE with Drupal (we're a Drupal development shop) - it's not perfect, but it does offer a lot of flexibility regarding acceptable tags, and we've been able to get it to provide XHTML compliant code. Combined with filters like Tidy, it's possible to ensure that you don't get non-compliant code being entered. rantThe biggest issue is the complexity of cleaning up cut-pasted content from MS Word... *that's* a problem. TinyMCE offers a Paste from Word function which strips most of the rubbish from Word-produced content, but it's a pain to use... or people assume that anything coming from MS Word is clearly well suited for the web... We spend a lot of time trying to discourage people from using Word for authoring web content, because it's a very poor tool for doing so, but we have a hard time suggesting a palatable alternative (people seem to find the idea of composing content in the actual TinyMCE interface totally absurd, which doesn't make much sense to me...)./rant Regards, Dave On 27/02/10 07:32, Kepler Gelotte wrote: Just spent a day with FCKEditor only to find that there appears to be no way to have site CSS appear in the Style dropdown, w/o transforming the CSS into XML. That is not entirely accurate. The fckstyles.xml tells the editor which styles the user can apply and how to apply them. The actual CSS definition is defined in your CSS file and can be modified without updating the fckstyles.xml again. Best regards, Kepler Gelotte Neighbor Webmaster, Inc. 156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854 www.neighborwebmaster.com phone/fax: (732) 302-0904 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Dave Lane, Egressive Ltd d...@egressive.com m +64212298147 p +6439633733 http://egressive.com Free/OpenSourceSoftware: because to share is human Only use Open Standards - w3.org, Drupal powers communities - drupal.org Effusion Group http://effusiongroup.com Software Patents kill innovation *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Standards based Drupal WYSIWYG Editor
Hi James, On 27 February 2010 03:30, James O'Neill freexe...@gmail.com wrote: I am not at all happy with the FCK editor. I am starting to look at Time MCE and Standard. When you say FCK editor do you mean the current version? Now called CKEditor. Broadly, I’m very interested to hear comparisons or war stories from anyone who has extensive experience with more than one of these editors. Cheers Ollie *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues
hi, Problem in the policy section at that section Cancellation policyhttp://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/link not displaying. div style=float: left; margin: 8px;a href=http://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/;Cancellatio n policy/a/div I think above solution will work. On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 12:16 AM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote: No problem in IE7 here! Bob - Original Message - *From:* Kevin Ireson ke...@york-united-kingdom.co.uk *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2010 4:45 PM *Subject:* [WSG] Update to site in progress - valid css and html -IE7 issues Hi all, I have been working through an update to a site I first produced in 2003. So far I have tested and found one error in IE7. All the html validates apart from some code I cant change due to my version of Dreamweaver causing issues with and amp; CSS also validates to ver 2.1. However, when I use IE7 (still a very popular browser which I support) and go to the policy area of a product page. http://www.hotels-spain-accommodation.com/brochure-pages/hotel-medium-aristol-218556.html#Policy Then roll over the link to top or booking cancelation policy, it blanks out some of the page. Can I please ask for some help as I cant see a problem with it. It may be my copy of IE7 that is in fact causing the issue. Thanks in anticipation, Kevin Ireson MD Ireson computing Ltd York England *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** -- Thanks Brajesh Patel HotWax Media http://www.hotwaxmedia.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
