Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

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Re: [WSG] More on understanding html5

. It is recovering from the error in the HTML 4.x in a very strange and illogical way. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] AAA Accessibility and validation

that a style sheet is not a document. Meanwhile, WCAG 2.0 makes no requirement that CSS be valid (and when refers to 'markup' rather than 'documents'). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] AAA Accessibility and validation

to published formal grammars., but it can be argued that a style sheet is not a document. Meanwhile, WCAG 2.0 makes no requirement that CSS be valid (and when refers to 'markup' rather than 'documents'). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] fonts

a matter of aesthetics. That said, changing fonts mid-line (and as links are inline elements, this is probably what you are suggesting) is generally a bad idea. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] e-mail link

(for users not aware of Copy email address features on web browser context menus * Use a form for users who prefer it or don't have access to an email client (including webmail) -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List

Re: [WSG] CSS Validation Error

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Re: [WSG] CSS Validation Error

the vendor prefix. Who is going to maintain a central list of all proprietary extensions and the values they accept? How would they be versioned? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Data URI encoder

it? Do browsers which don't support it still use the earlier declaration? Or do they go I accept url() values, will override now? -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Minimal forms or marking up a search field

for these elements are provided via the value attribute (for Submit and Reset buttons), the alt attribute (for image buttons), or element content itself (button). — http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/WCAG20/WD-WCAG20-TECHS/H44.html -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] validator error or my code?

and usability to pass a buggy automated test. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh

Re: [WSG] validator error or my code?

religiously. They should do, but people do make mistakes. This isn't a matter of deviating from the spec though. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] Re: IE 6 Nightmare plus new margin problem

On 28 Apr 2010, at 09:43, Kevin Ireson wrote: Try removing display-inline. you dont need it when you use float. Yes, you do. It fixes the IE double margins on floats bug. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List

Re: [WSG] Is it still necessary to encode ampersands?

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Re: [WSG] Is it still necessary to encode ampersands?

excuses of the hand crafter — it isn't a lot of manual work! -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm

Using CSS instead of JS for accessibility (was Re: [WSG] CSS Expandable Menu)

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Re: [WSG] HTML5 offline storage question

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Re: [WSG] Semantics, lists and links

. I'm not sure yet if a p in the nav would be necessary for old browsers. A single link will rarely be an entire paragraph. Lists are the right choice here, other posts to this thread explain some of the ways that screen readers handle them. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] html5 issue

On 27 Aug 2010, at 19:30, Tom Livingston wrote: Line 12, Column 21: A charset attribute on a meta element found after the first 512 bytes. Can anyone tell me why? You have too much content before the meta tag. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] un-border-collapse, possible?

(with inherit meaning to inherit the value from the parent element). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join

Re: [WSG] CSS support of HTML5 tags not ready yet?

display: block, the rendering fails (usually quite badly) if JS or CSS isn't available. I wouldn't depend on those elements until HTML5 browsers are common. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] CSS support of HTML5 tags not ready yet?

support) in DOM. I suppose DOM will still work in older IEs when CSS is off yes? Yes -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Image Maps

is an (oldish) resource which describes some of the issues and ways to work around them. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

[WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

beyond indicating the possibility of activation, and one you start doing that … http://www.cennydd.co.uk/2010/end-hover-abuse-now/ -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] A simple IE and JS detection method?

On 29 Oct 2010, at 09:49, Mathew Robertson wrote: Browsers support expando elements (aka, you can bind properties into the DOM object), so adding a class attribute is valid Valid has a specific technical meaning when dealing with SGML and XML. What browsers supports isn't it. -- David

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

is mandatory. Meta charset if you think people are more likely to view a locally saved copy of the document than a copy that has gone through a transcoding proxy. Links to any stylesheets. Scripts that need to run before the page has finished loading. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

html - but will work fine in all browsers (as far as I know). As far as browsers are concerned, it is will act no differently to HTML 4.01 Strict (or a number of other Doctypes). When you come to perform basic QA using a validator, on the other hand, you get very different results. -- David

Re: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?

On 11 Nov 2010, at 10:50, Chris Taylor wrote: From: David Dorward Sent: 11 November 2010 10:30 On 11 Nov 2010, at 09:18, Chris Taylor wrote: In fact, this is HTML5-style - !doctype html - but will work fine in all browsers (as far as I know). When you come to perform basic QA using

Re: [WSG] css

it is clever to make content appear and disappear in CSS, JavaScript is much better suited to this type of task. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Touch screens

, but it is imperfect. AFAIK, explicitly duplicating the hover events in touch events will give you decent control. That said, using hovers isn't a good idea for triggering menus in the first place. http://www.cennydd.co.uk/2010/end-hover-abuse-now/ sums up the problems quite nicely. -- David

Re: [WSG] accessible screen reader cms

stick with the tools you have and try to get some advice on the specific problems you are experiencing. where to get php from and which version. http://php.net/ — 5.3.3 is the latest stable version. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Fixed-position menus?

linking to fragment identifiers in the document (#foo - div id=foo). If the user wants to get back to the menu, it is not a great hardship to scroll back up or hit the home key. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List

Re: [WSG] Default style declaration?

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Re: [WSG] To marquee or not to marquee here is the question!!! [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

is abbr. I don't like marquee, but the only argument I have against it (when the alternative is JavaScript to achieve the same effect) is that it is purely presentational and therefore doesn't belong in markup. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

markup, but I have not seen anything to indicate that they do. So what exactly is the benefit? It saves having to rewrite the site when AT, SEs, etc do have significant support for them. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] why :first-child pseudo-class doesn't work for some selectors/elements?

the two individually as I thought maybe they can't be grouped, but it makes no differences. !-- Container -- body !-- 1st Child -- dl ... /dl !-- 2nd Child -- h2Heading 2 this is the first-child and the bg color should be in Olive./h2 Ditto. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk

Re: [WSG] Need to access parent content from iframe

iframe js? p.s. The iframe and parent window are different domain. The js file resides in iframe. No. https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Same_origin_policy_for_JavaScript -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines

Re: [WSG] Need to access parent content from iframe

On 5 Apr 2011, at 11:55, Mahendran Venkatesan wrote: I thought the policy is applicable only for accessing the content from parent window to iframe. So, the access permission in both ways is not possible. It applies to all cross origin communication - XHR, frames, etc, etc. -- David

Re: [WSG] Need to access parent content from iframe

but not mozilla.com or org. So you can, but only in non-standard and very limited ways. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Title tags - site name then keywords?

, Pipework, Welding - ABC Engineering Ltd And put titles in the title element, not a list of keywords. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http

Re: [WSG] Accessible Modal/Lightbox Code

to the other images. So, despite being CSS 3 based and without JavaScript, a cursory glance at it leads me to conclude that it is highly inaccessible. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] Breaking validation using noscript - Is there a solution?

enhancement[1] is a better approach, but it isn't deprecated Which means you would need to use a transitional doctype. The relationship between Appears in transitional but not string and is deprecated is not 1:1. [1] http://icant.co.uk/articles/pragmatic-progressive-enhancement/ -- David Dorward

Re: [WSG] HTML5 and invalid meta tags

be registered in the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page. [WHATWGWIKI] Anyone is free to edit the WHATWG Wiki MetaExtensions page at any time to add a type. -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http

Re: [WSG] a:link behaviors issues

don't is when you have a non-linked anchor (which you shouldn't have these days since `id` on a heading or div/section/etc makes more sense). -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] Best Practice - Content Within Tables

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Re: [WSG] list heading – best practice?

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Re: [WSG] More on forms

. (You should also use regular expression literals ( /bar/ instead of new RegExp(bar) ) as they avoid having to escape things for regex and then escape them again for the string.) -- David Dorward http://dorward.me.uk *** List

Re: [WSG] which tag to use for link to reference?

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