Re: [WSG] Org Charts
Miles Tillinger wrote: How well does the solution degrade for older browser and screen readers? I'm trying to come up with a topic mapping solution that degrades nicely. It's to replace an existing Flash-based topic structure, however solutions seem to be just as inaccessible as Flash anyway? The difficult bit to represent is the lines linking the objects. If I could represent it all in text it'd be no problems, but that seems to be a distant dream... I think older browser and screen readers are not relevant in this context. Organisation charts are by their very nature data-visualisations. I think the age old adage, a picture tells a thousand words is the very definition of the problem represented. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Org Charts
Peter Firminger wrote: I still think that SVG is worth investigating though will be a steep learning curve. This one is pretty impressive, especially the relationships. http://www.w3.org/2003/02/W3COrg.svg SVG is just too damn hard too. There are two simple realities with the state of SVG today: 1. the player is enormous and is unlikely to achieve any form of ubiquity in the forseeable future 2. SVG cannot do what Flash can do With regard to organisation charts the difference in Flash and SVG functionality is probably not relevant. But if you have to develop skill sets, seems to me like Flash is a far better tool to be concentrating efforts on. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] RSS or Atom for an events calendar?
The only thing that will be useful for the general public is a basic RSS/ATOM feed that just announces dates when you know about them. You cannot build something that is going to somehow be useful in terms of edits or deletes. This sort of syndication is typically aggregated and kept at the discretion of the user -- sending additional info like the event is no more will only confuse folks. There is plenty of value in announcing new upcoming events though. You might also consider generating an iCal feed which is simple enough -- although Outlook has no idea (as per usual) the rest of the calendaring world regards iCal as a common protocol. -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Justin French wrote: Hi all, Hopefully this is an applicable place to discuss this. I've just started looking into RSS/Atom/etc (news feeds in XML), and everything is going pretty well, but I'm working on a website for a band, and the news feeds seem easy enough, but I'm interested in the possibility of using RSS or Atom for calendar events (shows and tours). But I'm not sure RSS/Atom can be used in this way. The theory behind shows for a band is that they need to be advertised/shown UPTO the date of the event, then they're irrelevant. The theory behind news readers is that once you've read something, it no longer exists, which is not what I'm aiming for of course. RSS2.0 only seems to have a published date, not an expiry date, so that doesn't seem to help. Atom seems to have issued and modified, but again no expiry. .snip.8. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] Patents and Open Standards
On that note.. here is another corker: http://212.100.234.54/content/6/28985.html Having navigation on a website in a fixed position is patented. Does the patent office actually do anything at all?? Life is like a box of chocolates... -- geoff http://www.daemon.com.au/ Chris Blown wrote: Hey I've been increasingly interested in the latest developments in Europe on software patents and the effect it may have on open source and standards based development. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/recent/index.en.html As all here know, the basis for most IT based standards is interoperability and standardised communication of information. However standards by nature offer a range of concepts that a lot of clever people have invented. Does the combination of patents and standards restrict innovation and development? I reckon so.. its good to see the W3C agree ... http://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/ http://xml.coverpages.org/patents.html [ Warning : Super Long ] Regards Chris Blown * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
