Hi all,
Is there a searchable archive of this list so I can sort of get my bearings
since I'm new here?
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Ps. Mads, are you here? ;-)
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I'm working on http://metropolis.muprivate.edu.au/index.php?id=456 -
it's going to be our intranet.
Looking at it in Firefox, it looks fine, but in IE the menu on the left
appears but is then overwritten by the background image
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My question is, do you draw the
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(Respect :o)
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I only joined here umm 2 days ago. I'm impressed with the group and attitude
here.
Way to go, whoever started this and also the participants.
I'm
I'm wondering whether these could be considered standards for this list:
- no html emails, only text (I'm tired of resizing fonts and stuff to make
messages readable
- always have some text in the subject field that describes the subject
?
Thanks! Great list, otherwise! :-)
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I can get you a legal opinion if you wish.
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seriously, regardless of the intent of the discussion or the context within
which the discussion takes place.
Not true.
What isn't true?
That you have any idea of the illegalities of price fixing discussions,
whether such discussion is implemented or not?
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obfuscation. This is a damage limitation exercise. In this war of attrition,
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Not so with a sequence of images (unless, of course, you're ordering them
alphabetically but that's not the issue).
Couldn't Cost and Monday have a value which is an image along with a
caption?
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What CSS/XHTML/HTML editors do you guys use for hand coding and
testing?
Adobe GoLive.
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When in doubt, delete them.
I do.
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What is Ruby?
TIA
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So people don't actually answer questions here, they perform google searches
for you?
Cool! ;-)
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This makes perfect sense to me especially if it were a wikipedia or similar
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Wow.
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wars...
The rest is the usual well, these big sites are not valid, so why bother
drivel.
Kept me entertained for all of 17 seconds.
Yeah, but you
Title: Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;
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excellent example
www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ http://www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/
Camz
Doesn't work in Safari, though?
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Camz
Doesn't work in Safari, though?
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Which Safari? Works OK in 1.0.2 on 10.2.8...
Nick
1.2.2
I don't get scrollbars
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www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ http://www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/
Camz
Doesn't work in Safari, though?
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Which Safari? Works OK in 1.0.2 on 10.2.8...
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I don't get scrollbars
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Doesnt it?!
http://www.danvine.com/icapture/detail/51923.html
works ok on iCapture?
Do we know they have 1.2.2?
It still doesn't work on my 1.2.2 (v125.8), that's for sure.
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I meant to say I get the scrollbars but no arrow buttons to use for
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Can you use your wheel on the mouse?
There's no way
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Camz
I meant to say I get the scrollbars but no arrow buttons to use for
scrolling.
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Can you use your wheel on the mouse?
There's no way
versions first - and
some people are reporting that it doesn't work properly even if they
follow all the instructions. It's running beautifully on my machine
here...
It's mainly unusable on my Mac 10.3.4.
.8 was better but still had bugs as well, but .9 is far worse.
Caution!
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Sorry, this is redundant/repetitive.
What's the web site that takes screenshots of sites for you in the various
browsers?
Thanks!
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http://www.v2.shockmedia.com.au
I see no flaws in my Safari.
That is impressive site.
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day said BUI were still okay
(not depricated).
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article re: semantically correct coding?
TIA
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probs on Safari 1.2.x although red links with other orange
graphics make my brain tumor roll over and squirm. ;-)
The footer is a little messy also and there are at least two fonts in the
footer. Colons and spacing are a bit weird.
Still, Safari renders it all just fine.
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-thinking efforts.
What an idiotic website that is.
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http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Acollusion
I agree, FWIW.
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I am tired of all the vacation messages.
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good, but please stop sending RTF/HTML email. I have to get out a magnifying glass to read it.
Text only please.
Sorry to be a grump. :-)
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Accessibility Tool bar
Update on Web Accessibility Toolbar
And/or something for Mac OS?
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to James in the advanced font setting relay! :D
you are the 1st person *ever* to pick that up.
seriously tho, cheers for that, a valid point indeed, and noted.
Now if we can just get the html/rtf emails off this list! :-)
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Do we have enough Kiwis to start running some meetings of our own?
I'm heading to WE04 - any other Kiwis going??
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I didn't download QT for testing (seriously, register to download? As
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You don't have to register. Clear the checkmarks and don't enter your name,
etc. The
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Need some help here...
http://fs.neester.com/
Somethin's real weird indeed.
The site looks totally different in Safari than Firefox. Safari has orange
menu boxes etc. Firefox has none of that. I think Firefox is loading
/regulator which doesn't have
much to do with WSG, does it?
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tables.
So what's the real deal on formatting for all these devices? I should
check the ALA article I'm sure and I will but I'm looking for the real
truth.
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having problems in Safari.
Hi,
What are the problems?
It seems to work pretty well on my 20 screen with Safari. Slightly weird
layout IMO, but it seems to be 100% filled and all that.
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. Those are generic
family font specs.
p { font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, Geneva, Swiss, SunSans-Regular,
sans-serif }
HTH
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(.video_title is
the relevant style I'm pretty sure).
See anything obvious that's keeping the whitespace so big after the titles?
Stylesheet here:
http://www.lucernemedia.com/css/newestbase.css
CSS and markup mainly validate, with a few margin errors perhaps.
TIA
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as for the whitespace around the P have you removed padding and margin from
it?
and if so have you removed it from any surrounding elemenets? thats normaly
the main cause of whitespace around a P
All I've specified for p is a
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AOL browser is uses the IE engine, does it not?
I think they switched to Gecko.
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with table layout data...
Or is this a case where its better to bite the bullet and just do it
in a table...?
I vote for it's tabular data - use a table.
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to think about outputting CSS positioning and
stuff from PHP or whatever, although somebody's working on that I'm sure!
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external links going into a new browser window. I can see why some
would like that, but I can also see why others would frown on it.
I don't have a screen reader, but does a screen reader say new window or
something on those links?
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in the first
place?
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is your opinion (and practice) with regard to putting the W3C badges on
you clients' sites?
I'm thinking just don't do it.
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Here are two nicer looking ones
http://blog.dalegroup.net/images/validx.gif (xhtml 1.1)
http://blog.dalegroup.net/images/validc.gif (css)
Michael Dale
Those are pretty nice! Are there more?
Thanks
Rick Faaberg
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If anyone can help, you can either email me personally or keep it on the list.
I'd keep it off list. This list is getting too much questionable content
these days.
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in Firefox 1.0 and not in IE6?
HTML: http://www.asic.bc.cx/ASICAboutUs.php
It doesn't appear to work in FF Mac or Safari either.
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PA accesskey=0 HREF=#Table alt=Click here to return table of Contents
(Accesskey ALT + 0)click here to return to table
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http://www.dlaakso.com/
Thanks.
There appear to be some accessibility warnings on WAI and 508.
Cool site!
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But they can't eat it too!
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for time
zones since PHP cannot determine what time zone a client is in, at least in
the research I did a couple of years ago.
Javascript can use the client computer's clock time, but PHP cannot as it's
a server-side language.
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captions (or whatever the stds
thing is) for all those flags. I recognize one of them - guess which one!
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Sales figures. Market share. Web stats. Globally, the Mac is under
2.5% on web stats.
Gee, I wish *I* owned 2.5% of *any* global market! :-)
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clicking and scrolling around and clicking etc. in
Safari, eventually the page goes numb - no scrolling, no clicking, no
rollovering works.
FWIW
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-justified text, but maybe that's a
personal thing. I just don't really like extra space between words that only
serves to full-justify the text.
Loads fast - clean design - and here I am of Norwegian descent (1/2) and
understand none of the language ;-(
HTH
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, but if you care - it's busted on Mac IE 5.2.x.
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(providing the contrast is pumped up a bit in some areas as per
previous feedback).
Great job overall IMO.
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Make that hear, hear and you're on! :-)
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begin code
a:hover {
background-color: #dedede;
color: #385468;
text-decoration: none;
}
#navbar-main a:hover, #navbar a:hover {
text-decoration: underline;
}
/end code
The problem is, I don't want the navbar rule
less work. Building using standards is a choice not an extra.
Keep studying those apostrophes though - plurals vs. possessives vs.
contractions, etc.!
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- News - Today's News - Detail
Home - News - Yesterday's News - Summary
Home - News - Yesterday's News - Detail
etc.
If you leave any nodes out, you've lost your way.
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Jolorence,
What was the URL again?
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Jan 2005.
I look forward to your response!
Much of the type is very, very small in Firefox Mac, so I can't read it.
Examples: all the nav_n styles, sidebar, footer, accesskey, and poweredby.
That's just on the first page. I didn't look at any other pages.
HTH
Rick Faaberg
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I'll take into account all the suggestions and critics
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Very, very nice.
Any ideas on how I could put a rounded stripe of color with text in it
across the top of the generated box?
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Very interesting read. Thanks
I agree about the web standards look. It's generally very tired and bland.
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or please check this in your PC
browsers.
Also, it would be cool if folks would provide some parenthetical reference
to what website we're talking about since site check occurs with great
regularity - like site check www.mywonderfulsite.com in the email subject.
See ya!
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and can't realize that they need to just hit
delete on these things.
The bent people owe you an apology in my opinion.
Sigh
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creating websites with no human intervention required. :-(
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? And sort of open source colors?
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Ps. Everybody stop sending HTML email to here okay? I, for one, usually
immediately delete such mail without reading it since normally the font is
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I've recently re-done my website.
Everybody put the title or URL of the website in the website check message
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We just 'soft launched' a new website, http://www.wirelessforum.org.nz,
so that we can gather a final set of feedback and changes for a Monday
meeting to see the project finished next week.
The entire site is XHTML 1.1,
-6 pixels of margin at the top of the page.
I think that looks attractive generally since the other three sides have big
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apart from scott.
You might as well set a trash/junk mail rule. That's what I've done.
HTH
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standards for our convenience and efficiency - doesn't have
anything to do with the clients' needs unless you have clients that somehow
have a 'nut' for web standards. I don't have any currently.
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a href=# onclick=alert(msg)Don't Look Now/abr /
This works. But what to do if the message also needs inside?
Can we keep the javascript cr*p off this list? Thanks!
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When a client wants some flashing text for emphasis,
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I've seen some fairly tasteful things done with Flash to provide visual
interest. Maybe something as simple as horizontal scroll or simple animation
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Exciting stuff!
Wouldn't be a strange world if we didn't curse developing for IE?
It sure would be! :-)
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~ looking for a position in Hillsboro/Portland!
Hi all,
Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified:
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170513rl=1
I find it slightly humorous/ironic that that page has significant wrapping
problems in Safari. Haven't checked other browsers.
Whatever! ;-)
Rick
://www.omnivision.com.au/
(Safari 1.3 / OS X 10.3.9)
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Hi all,
Position This! CSS Positioning Demystified:
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=170513rl=1
I find it slightly humorous/ironic that that page has significant
wrapping
problems in Safari
and whatever stuff as being
worthwhile.
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it would be at all accurate in the first place).
On FF Mac, just choose File Print and then click on Preview button. No?
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On 5/30/05 4:49 AM Rowan Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:
What would be wrong with doing something like this?
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The only thing I can think of is: are you aware of the origin of fubar
(which is the
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