[WSG] DTD syntax [WAS] Opening links in new window with XHTML

2005-04-04 Thread Chris Bentley
Chris Stratford wrote: You can use this DTD: !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC XHTML 1.0 Strict http://www.neester.com/DTD/xhtml-target.dtd; I made it myself from a tutorial. It is XHTML 1.0 Strict. Are you sure that the Formal Public Identifier part of the DTD can really look like that? I thought that

Re: [WSG] colgroup alignment issue

2004-12-02 Thread Chris Bentley
Mike, Comes a bit late as I'm sure you've move on, but I think you would still find this interesting. http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1070385285count=1 Cheers, Chris. On 12/11/2004, at 3:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have encountered alignment issues between our target browsers. The code example

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-09 Thread Chris Bentley
Geoff; But still, strictly speaking, an XML based document is bound to be more semantically correct because it is well formed. Why? Are the semantics of the following deferent? ul liIce cream/li liSprinkles/li /ul ... ul liIce cream liSprinkles /ul SGML and XML

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-09 Thread Chris Bentley
Dean; Then there is the whole Web Applications trend. Again, HTML and XHTML are pretty much the same in functionality here, but if I'm using an application on the Web then I want to make sure it is well-formed and well-structured. I don't want a typo by a web developer (such as leaving off an end

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Chris Bentley
Every modern browser, including Mozilla and Safari, is much worse at XHTML than at HTML. People tend to foolishly gloss over the transition from one to the other, thinking that code you write for one will just work when you switch to XHTML. That simply isnt true. If you look at XHTML in both

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Chris Bentley
On 07/10/2004, at 9:45 AM, Peter Firminger wrote: (and it's debateable whether HTML 3.2 is either... By version do they mean the language or the subset? HTML 3.2 is the latest version of HTML 3) I suspect that they mean HTML4. From the HTML 4 rec W3C recommends that authors produce HTML 4

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Chris Bentley
On 07/10/2004, at 10:07 AM, Geoff Deering wrote: The reason being that if you are not closing all your tags it can become a guessing game for the parser where the CSS declaration may end in various parts of the document. It always strikes me that when using HTML4 you are at the mercy of the

Re: [WSG] Is XHTML harmful?

2004-10-06 Thread Chris Bentley
Are there any parsers out there you explicitly trust to get it right every time? I don't. I know of one, http://validator.w3.org/. Are you say though that User Agents are generally better/fast at parsing/rendering valid XHTML than they are valid HTML? They may well do, but they are still

[WSG] XML Prolog rant [WAS] Site breaking in Mozilla

2004-06-13 Thread Chris Bentley
It seems that whenever I try to fix a problem in Mozilla, then IE breaks. There's a very good reason for that... Because you are using the xml prolog, and I'm betting that if you remove the xml prolog, IE will start breaking too. and many more.. XML declaration is the correct name of the entity

Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-05-22 Thread Chris Bentley
I'm opposed to forking the list. I second j.neen's suggestion for a tread-based forum. This list is threaded.. http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/ That is how my mail reader displays it it too. Maybe you could try mail software which threads. Also, I prefer an RSS feed of

Re: [WSG] CSS support table?

2004-05-17 Thread Chris Bentley
Here is Safari's http://developer.apple.com/internet/safari/safari_css.html Cheers, chris * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting

Re: [WSG] XHTML transitional is a half-way house

2004-05-06 Thread Chris Bentley
I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). No its not. There is no such thing as a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML. Sure there

Re: [WSG] Trouble with safari

2004-05-06 Thread Chris Bentley
Not sure what's happening. but when I delete the border-top property from this rule the page behaves as expected in Safari. #c { height: 400px; margin-left: 224px; background-color: #fff; /* border-top: 1px solid #537B8D; */

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
Tim Lucas wrote: If you don't need to serve valid XML, and you can not systematically serve well formed XML documents, then I recommend sticking with a less strict data format (such as XHTML transitional). XML is a strict data format and, like most, can't reliably be written by hand without

Re: [WSG] Re: Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). Are you saying that XHTML transitional is

[WSG] XHTML transitional is a half-way house [WAS] Ten questions for Anne van Kesteren

2004-05-05 Thread Chris Bentley
On 05/05/2004, at 10:09 PM, Patrick Griffiths wrote: I thought XHTML transitional _is_ XML. In what way is XHTML transitional is a less strict data format? It's a transition. It's a half-way house between HTML 4 and XHTML as it is intended (XHTML Strict). No its not. There is no such thing as a

Re: [WSG] SVG (was: Org Charts)

2004-04-29 Thread Chris Bentley
So where is SVG in regard to Web Standards ? http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/ Besides the current recommendation there is a 1.2 revision currently in working draft http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG12/. Are many people using it for anything useful ? I believe it has been adopted widely in the cartography

Re: [WSG] Trying to add a back to top link

2004-04-24 Thread Chris Bentley
Have you considered using a href=#top.../a ? Yes and that goes back to the root index page - as mentioned these pages are dynamic! Are you using the BASE element? #top is a reference to a local fragment, the page shouldn't reload or load another page unless you have set a base URI. ...or am

Re: [WSG] Trimming the fat from CSS

2004-04-15 Thread Chris Bentley
Hugh, I always put in the trailing semicolon and would ask that this practice be adopted by any team I work in even though it is not required. When I wasn't particular about putting it in, I found that when the CSS was later edited by either myself or other maintainers that inevitably a bug

[WSG] Valid Flash...

2004-04-13 Thread Chris Bentley
The imitable Ian Hickson has some valid HTML to embed Macromedia Flash files using only the OBJECT tag... http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-validator/2004Apr/0071.html Cheers, chris. * The discussion list for

[WSG] XSL stinks: was [OT] XSL [Virus checkedAU]

2003-11-29 Thread Chris Bentley
I've used XSLT (and XSL:FO) to build small/medium/large 3rd party web applications and the odd website since 2000. My experience is completely opposite to yours; my brushes with XSLT have all been happy ones. I recently asked a company for which I worked on 3 such applications in 2001/2002 if

Re: [WSG]Interesting comments about using DL to mark up forms

2003-10-07 Thread Chris Bentley
Simon Jessey wrote: Interestingly, Ian Hickson says that styling a DL is difficult, and that he is having trouble coming up with solutions for dealing with it in CSS3. I'm not entirely sure what he means by that, since I have no more trouble styling a DL than I do any other element. Great! I

Re: [WSG]list-o-matic-o-rama-o-thingy

2003-09-27 Thread Chris Bentley
just fine. Cheers, Chris Bentley * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *