[WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really dont want to uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. ...helmut
RE: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Wow that was fast! Thanks I had been looking for this for days now. ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian Montoya Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:30 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer On 3/17/06, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don't want to uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. http://browsers.evolt.org/?ie/32bit/standalone the last one is the one you want: ie6eolas_nt.zip -- -- Christian Montoya christianmontoya.com ... rdpdesign.com ... cssliquid.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer
Jay, Thanks for your explanation and your recommendation, I didn't think of using IE7 as SA (I didn't even knew it was available). I am aware that I'm running a Beta and all of the technical difficulties that could come with using Beta software. But I'm not too concerned since I don't use IE as my primary Browser; actually I use FF for work and Opera for personal usage. Thanks again! ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Gilmore Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 2:34 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stand alone IE6 Installer Helmut Granda wrote: Does anyone know if there is a stand alone IE6 installer anywhere? Similar to IE4 and IE5. I am running IE7 and I really don't want to uninstall just to test couple of sites on IE6. ...helmut Helmut, What you are running is a preview release of IE7 Beta 2 not even Beta 2. If the MIX06 release is out then you are running Beta 2 but the MS IE blog has made many attempts to explain that there are still changes coming. In addition it will not be in General Availability till 2007. There are lots of great articles about running IE7 as a standalone and solution that I am using has a batch file that fixes a registry entry that will screw up your IE 6 when they are run on the same machine. I would strongly suggest that you switch back to IE6 and use a SA version of the IE7 release that is out now. Just my opinion. All the best, Jay -- Jay Gilmore Developer / Consultant SmashingRed Web Marketing P] 902.529.0651 E] [EMAIL PROTECTED] U] http://www.smashingred.com B] http://www.smashingred.com/blog ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Introduction and first submission
Welcome Sharron.. Im in Austin too! (just in case you were wondering J ) ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Menard Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:13 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Another Texan! Welcome Sharron. I'm here in Austin. - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:06:29 PM Subject: [WSG] Introduction and first submission Pardon a silly question, but is it standard procedure to introduce one's self? I stumbled upon this site several days ago and have been inundated with wonderfully interesting and helpful information ever since. I did read that I need to only use plain text, so I must first figure out how that is done on a email by email basis using Outlook Express. I am Sharron a resident of the state of Texas, USA. I am a fairly newcomer to css, validation etcetera. Regards Sharron
[WSG] ServerSide Includes and Divs
I discovered something weird today. When I was creating my layout that contains includes for some reason my rules would not work properly only if the layout was like this. -- code starts Main Layout div id=header Include header.php; /div div id=content Include content.php; /div div id=footer Include footer; /div --End of Main Layout --Sample Include //header.php div class=taglineBlah/div div class=logoutLogout/div -- end of code BUT! If I did this --code starts Main Layout Include header.php; div id=content Include content.php; /div Include footer; ---End of Main Layout --Sample Include //header.php div id=header div class=taglineBlah/div div class=logoutLogout/div /div --end of code As you can see as long as I added my header wrapper in the header.php the rules would work fine, but if I didnt then the rules would break. Has anyone experienced this? Is there any specific reason why rules would fail with includes? TIA ...helmut
RE: [WSG] what cms system
What about Joomla!? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dietmar Albers Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:06 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] what cms system try - textpattern :) it's easy to use and good. OK, I think this is not a list to discuss such stuff. Nevertheless: Textpattern is good, very good. But from my view this is a blogger system and not a real cms. This makes it diferent ... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marko Mihelcic - founder of mcville.net (http.//www.mcville.net)|(http://board.mcville.net) Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 5:59 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] what cms system 2006/1/18, Dietmar Albers [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Drupal- ok fine Geeklog - mhhh mhmh Mambo Open Source - mhhh mhmh PHP-Nuke- mhhh mhmm phpWCMS - mhhh mhmm dunno phpWebSite- mhhh nah Post-Nuke - mhhh maybe but nah Siteframe - mhhh aAaaa nah TYPO3 - very good, but needs some nope special webserver options Xoops - mhhh maybe yeah try - textpattern :) it's easy to use and good. There is one more, very good and easy to understand: Contenido (http://www.contenido.org/opensourcecms/en/index-b-11-155.html), but there are not very much special tools and add ons. I'm uisng it for my new school website (http://hswasserbank.de/da/cms/front_content.php - under construction yet). Btw: there are some problems with this inline editor, it generates non validating code and you need to use the java editor and clean up the code before saving it. You will see! ;-) Cu D. ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Active Links
Thanks for the tips, unfortunately no Server Side technology can be used, just static HTML files. Thanks for the thought though. ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terrence Wood Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 3:45 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Active Links Helmut Granda said: What I am trying to achieve is this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/keepingcurrent/ but without using an ID or a class. What server side language do you have support for? Creating navigation like the php example and including it with your pages is the best way to achieve what you want. If you don't have PHP, then you will probably at least have SSI as part of the server. Let us know and we can proced from there. kind regards Terrence Wood. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Active Links
1) I am using DW Templates and I have locked the menu to avoid having to recreate every time there is a menu update. Also the site will be updated with Contribute so the user will be able to add/delete items from the menu and they might not know how to apply a class/id attribute to the item they are adding. 2) That sounds like a good solution, I definitely will look into that, that way I don't have to worry about the user forgetting to add the class/id attribute. Thanks! ...helmut -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Justin Carter Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 4:17 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Active Links On 1/14/06, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the tips, unfortunately no Server Side technology can be used, just static HTML files. If the pages must be static then you only have two options that I can think of... 1) Use a current class (or id) on the navigation element that corresponds to the current page (something that you already said you dont want to do). If you're maintaining all these pages by hand then why is one extra attribute going to hurt? 2) Use JavaScript to traverse the element containing the navigation to find the achor tags href attribute which matches the page which is currently being viewed (this would be done unobtrusively of course, and will do nothing for browsers without JavaScript enabled, leaving non-JavaScript enabled browsers without a solution for the problem you're trying to solve). Hope that helps. Maybe someone else can suggest another idea... --carter ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Active Links
Hello, I am trying to show on a left menu what page is currently active with CSS. So far the only way I know how to do it is by hand-coding it a href="" class=currentlinklink.html/a What I was thinking about doing was to set up the a:Active class to like bold or something, now the only time when the text shows bold is when I press on it. Is there a way to set up the CSS globally with a:Active or similar so I dont have to hand-code each link in my menu? Thanks! -H
RE: [WSG] Active Links
Hello Everyone, Thanks everyone for your responses, I think I explained myself wrong: What I am trying to achieve is this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/keepingcurrent/ but without using an ID or a class. I have been looking around and so far no luck, I believe that we have to type the ID names manually. The reason why I was trying to figure it out is because as some one commented I am creating a static site and contains hundreds of pages. So to avoid the trouble of opening each page and defining the Active ID I would like to solve the problem by just defining it in my CSS and then all the pages would inherit it. Btw, for a minute I thought some one was taking about the pseudo-class currentLink but then I figured they were making reference to my email J ...helmut From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Helmut Granda Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:57 PM To: WSG Subject: [WSG] Active Links Hello, I am trying to show on a left menu what page is currently active with CSS. So far the only way I know how to do it is by hand-coding it a href="" class=currentlinklink.html/a What I was thinking about doing was to set up the a:Active class to like bold or something, now the only time when the text shows bold is when I press on it. Is there a way to set up the CSS globally with a:Active or similar so I dont have to hand-code each link in my menu? Thanks! -H
[WSG] Browser Stats
For what I see in: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp it seems like FF is loosing terrain, is w3schools accurate? Or is there anyother place that I can check what the general public is using. This is for General Public, I know I can look in my logs to see my visitors, but I am just trying to get a general idea. TY, Helmut.
RE: [WSG] 3 row(div) liquid vertical layout w/drop shadows-help-
Both links point to the same page. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kvnmcwebn Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 2:52 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] 3 row(div) liquid vertical layout w/drop shadows-help- hello all, ive dug myself into a hole trying to create a3 div-semiliquidlayout with expandable drop shadows.- The drop shadow method im using isnt perfect for this application but I cant find a better one as i want an eqaul shadow on all 4 sides of the div. I cant remember where i got this shadow tut from although i tried searching with the standardista plug-in which btw is veryhandy. Alsothe middle(body) div needs toto resize to 100% of the width between the header and footer divs which is causing problems with the shadows. In this example the shadows work but the middle div dosn't resize. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm In this example the middle div resizes but the shadows break. http://www.mcmonagle.biz/test.htm Does anyone have suggestions to simplify this? thanks in advance -best kvnmcwebn
RE: [WSG] height 100%
Title: Message Fyi, the navigation on top and some images are out of alignment on XP FF. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur - Pacific Fox Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:01 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] height 100% I have a page on http://testing.icanmls.pacificfox.com/concept03/ it validates! I have a main div and two divs in there that float, I'm expecting the left floating div to always dictate the height of the right floating div, so I set the right floating div to height: 100%; But it does not stretch all the way till the bottom. Does anyone know why? Thanks, Taco Fleur - CEO Pacific Fox http://www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with commercial IT experience since 1994 ** Web Design and Development ** SMS Solutions, including developer API ** Domain Registration, .com for as low as AUSD$15 a year ** Seamless Merchant integration ** We endorse PayPal, accept payments online now!
[WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid
Is it possible to turn a table grid into a full CSS grid? I have been looking for tutorials or some one who covers the subject, but most places talk about using tables... Something like this | a | b | c | d | | e | f | g | h | | I | j | k | l | This is just an example, in reality ABCD can be the title of the columns and E-L can be the content. TIA ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid
Thanks for your feedback guys. So those who insist in creating table-less layouts can not be done so all the time, there are times when you HAVE to use tables or it wont work. Would that statement be correct? Is it even wroth it to fight to transform that kind of content into table-less? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel González Noriega Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 12:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid On 07/10/05, Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to turn a table grid into a full CSS grid? It's possible (kind of) but not desireable. I have been looking for tutorials or some one who covers the subject, but most places talk about using tables... Something like this | a | b | c | d | | e | f | g | h | | I | j | k | l | This is just an example, in reality ABCD can be the title of the columns and E-L can be the content. That's a table by nature and you should mark it up precisely so. -- Manuel a veces :) a veces :( pero siempre trabajando duro para Simplelógica: apariencia, experiencia y comunicación en la web. http://simplelogica.net # (+34) 985 22 12 65 ¡Ah! y escribiendo en Logicola: http://logicola.simplelogica.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid
Thanks again for everyone's response, It makes more sense now and it makes it easier to define what CSS layout is, at one point I thought that everything had to be CSS and nothing else or it wouldn't Validate, but I see that this is not the case. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dennis Lapcewich Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:27 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid No. You are mixing apples and bicycles. Tableless layout refers to the *page design.* Within a tableless *page* layout, the tabular content should be in a table. Dennis Helmut Granda [EMAIL PROTECTED] udios.com To Sent by: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc rdsgroup.org Subject RE: [WSG] Table grid to CSS Grid 10/07/2005 11:08 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] roup.org Thanks for your feedback guys. So those who insist in creating table-less layouts can not be done so all the time, there are times when you HAVE to use tables or it wont work. Would that statement be correct? Is it even wroth it to fight to transform that kind of content into table-less? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Background Alignment
Hello, I have a background that is centered horizontally but tiled vertically. Background-image: url(graphic); Background-alignment: center; Background-repeat: repeat-y; Everything looks fine the only difference is 1 pixel between IE and FF. Has anyone encounter a similar problem? Note: The background is 700px in width. TIA helmut ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Background Alignment
Ah, ok... The container is the BODY Tag itself so that the background image will fit nicely in the middle of the screen.. Any more suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Novitski Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:41 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Background Alignment Sorry, my misreading. What I ought to have said was, make sure that both the background image and its container are both an even number of pixels wide. Paul At 12:11 AM 10/4/2005, Rick Faaberg wrote: On 10/4/05 12:00 AM Paul Novitski [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: Everything looks fine the only difference is 1 pixel between IE and FF. Has anyone encounter a similar problem? Note: The background is 700px in width. How wide is the background image? Perhaps it's simply a rounding issue that can be resolved by making the image an even number of pixels wide. 700px is even... Rick Faaberg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Object Mp3 into FF
I dont know if it is ok to post this kind of question here. I am trying to play a simple Mp3 file in the server, it works in IE, and I have read that if something works on IE but not in other browsers it is most likely because it is not writen properly. I have tested it extensibly in my machine and it is working. I have used the deprecated embed tag and the object tag, both work on my computer and on IE on the server, but not on FF. Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 3 hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I even found a way around to embed Media Player in FF. Here is my code: OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B WIDTH=144HEIGHT=16 CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; PARAM name=SRC VALUE=MP3%20File.mp3 PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true EMBED SRC=MP3%20File.mp3 WIDTH=144 HEIGHT=16 AUTOPLAY=true CONTROLLER=true PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/; /EMBED /OBJECT TIA, Helmut ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF
I dont know if it is ok to post this kind of question here. I am trying to play a simple Mp3 file in the server, it works in IE, and I have read that if something works on IE but not in other browsers it is most likely because it is not writen properly. I have tested it extensibly in my machine and it is working. I have used the deprecated embed tag and the object tag, both work on my computer and on IE on the server, but not on FF. Could some one take a look and help me find where I am making the mistake? Web references are good too. I have been searching for nearly 3 hours in different sites but none that I have found cover mp3, I even found a way around to embed Media Player in FF. Here is my code: OBJECT CLASSID=clsid:02BF25D5-8C17-4B23-BC80-D3488ABDDC6B WIDTH=144HEIGHT=16 CODEBASE=http://www.apple.com/qtactivex/qtplugin.cab; PARAM name=SRC VALUE=MP3%20File.mp3 PARAM name=AUTOPLAY VALUE=true PARAM name=CONTROLLER VALUE=true EMBED SRC=MP3%20File.mp3 WIDTH=144 HEIGHT=16 AUTOPLAY=true CONTROLLER=true PLUGINSPAGE=http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/; /EMBED /OBJECT TIA, Helmut // I apologize for stealing the previews thread. My mistake. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF
Thanks to John and Matthew to take the time to respond, I have tried all your suggestions, and still it didnt work, BUT I went ahead and uploaded the file to a different server and it works. Now! puts a big ? on my forehead, is there any specific reason or any specific setting that has to be done to enable qt movies to play in any browser? This seems really strange to me since I have the same files in 2 different servers and in one it works only in IE and in the other it works on IE and FF. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you Helmut. John Britsios wrote: Dear Helmut, You have two errors. Line 2: A quoted string cannot be immediately followed by text. It must be followed by a space or the end of the tag. Line 7: The EMBED element cannot be used here. It is not contained in an element that allows its use. Regards, John S. Britsios Accessibility SEO Consultant, Usability Specialist Trainer ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF
Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Helmut Granda wrote: Thanks to John and Matthew to take the time to respond, I have tried all your suggestions, I doubt it. AWWW, thanks for that :-P and still it didnt work, BUT I went ahead and uploaded the file to a different server and it works. The only difference I've ever seen on a server in Firefox is based on the mime-type. Did you really check that as I suggested? What's the difference in the headers between the servers? Server 1: works on IE only HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:24:48 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:11:48 GMT ETag: 985415-29b5-422f5884 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 10677 Connection: close Server 2:works on IE and FF HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 23:25:03 GMT Server: Apache X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10 Connection: close also as a side note, when I deleted the embed tag it would not work in FF only in IE, so I had to place back the embed tag to make it work. Thanks again, Helmut.. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF
Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Huh? So you're saying both servers don't return a Content-Type? What's the url? (and in the meantime complain to the admins of the boxes) The content-length of the first one seems a little small. 10677 bytes is only about a second of audio. also as a side note, when I deleted the DEFANGED_embed tag it would not work in FF only in IE, so I had to place back the DEFANGED_embed tag to make it work. This works for me in Firefox and IE / Quicktime and Media Player, object type=audio/wav data=audio/s001.mp3 param name=filename value=audio/s001.mp3/ /object Here are the site tests that I am doing Doesnt work on IE or FF: IE- Fails Server 1 http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html FF - Fails Server 2 http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch2.html --- IE not working - Same file in different server - Server 1 http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch3.html FF - Working - Server 2 http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch3.html Thanks for all your help. It is really appreciated. Helmut. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Re: Object Mp3 into FF
Matthew, Thank you very much for taking the time to respond and help. Your links are great resource! One thing is for sure that the server www.multimedia.net will play in IE and FF because it has the mp3 headers correct, while www.hamsterballstudios.com has the headers incorrectly. So to recap. 1. headers in multimedia247.net are set up properly 2. headers in hamsterballstudios.com are not set up correctly 3. code does not validate - solution 1. fix the headers in hamsterballstudios.com 2. fix HTML So my fears that the server in hamsterballstudios.com is not set up correctly which is the clients server. Thanks again, I really appreciate it. Helmut Matthew Cruickshank wrote: Helmut Granda wrote: Here are the site tests that I am doing Doesnt work on IE or FF: IE- Fails Server 1 http://www.hamsterballstudios.com/extrafiles/vo/volaunch2.html Ok... this site is producing vastly different to the headers you previously posted. There's now - perhaps magically - a content-type. As that was the bit I was asking about I'm guessing you just didn't post that bit last time or something. Christ... The mp3 http://tinyurl.com/6dz8u is sent with these headers (note: text/plain), HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:01:59 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 00:46:13 GMT ETag: 9853fa-1a51f5-422e4755 Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 1724917 Connection: close Content-Type: text/plain FF - Fails Server 2 http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch2.html The mp3 http://tinyurl.com/44ptd is sent with these headers (note: audio/mpeg, which is more correct) HTTP/1.1 200 OK Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 01:04:06 GMT Server: Apache Last-Modified: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 22:53:33 GMT ETag: 57c00d-1a51f5-422f7e6d Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 1724917 Connection: close Content-Type: audio/mpeg Soget hamsterballstudios.com to return the correct content-type (audio/x-mp3), and then work on the html. This HTML works in Firefox and IE for me, http://www.multimedia247.net/mp3test/volaunch3.html , but fails validation. Get your html to validate - that's half of the problem (well that and the mime headers which have mysteriously reappeared). To get Firefox compatibility there's no need for the older embed tag, provided your object tags are good (previously posted example code works, as do many others). 1. fix your http headers 2. then fix your html .Matthew Cruickshank http://holloway.co.nz/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best?
Sounds good to me ...hG http://www.helmutgranda.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:27 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best? Thanks for your message Kerry Sorry for not picking up, I'm in a telecon at the moment. I will have a look at the quote and the scheduling over the weekend and I should be able to get a response to you by Monday/Tuesday. There will be many increases in effeciency, but I'll attempt to put some sort of figure in with what I send you. Have a great weekend. Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875 Mobile: 0419 350 760 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Website: http://www.accessibility1st.com.au http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/ DISCLAIMER: This e-mail and any files transmitted with it may be privileged and confidential, and are intended only for the use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient or responsible for delivering this e-mail to the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this e-mail and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please REPLY TO the SENDER to advise the error AND then DELETE the e-mail from your system. Any views expressed in this e-mail and any files transmitted with it are those of the individual sender, except where the sender specifically states them to be the views of our organisation. Our organisation does not represent or warrant that the attached files are free from computer viruses or other defects. The user assumes all responsibility for any loss or damage resulting directly or indirectly from the use of the attached files. In any event, the liability to our organisation is limited to either the resupply of the attached files or the cost of having the attached files resupplied From: J. DesGeorges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:16:13 -0700 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] linking to style sheet - how best? Hi List, long time lurker who is trying to get more courageous with CSS. I am wondering what is the consensus for calling a style sheet. The @import rule or the link href method : style type=text/css media=screen !-- @import url(p7pm/p7pmh10.css); -- /style link href=_style5.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css --- I am confused as to the merits of both. If you can point me to a resource that discusses this issue I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Joe ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] London Web Standards Conference - OT?
Shouldn't Posting Conferences be OT as Job Opportunities? Finding out who is going or why your boss doesn't have enough cash to send you to a conference have nothing to do with standards and creates a lot more traffic than a posting about a Job that could help some one. IMHO Helmut ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Another amazing css zen garden entry
Everything has a weakness -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vaska.WSG Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 11:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Another amazing css zen garden entry It's not beautiful if you zoom your text. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **