Re: [WSG] Site Critique
Russ wrote, Would be good for the group to add/edit this list so that we could have a solid checklist - WSG's things to check during development. Excellent checkpoints Russ and it certainly got me thinking of additions but I fear more coffee is needed at this end. PS: I always look forward to your (some light reading) messages, which in themselves have upped my education. Regards, JG * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * _ Still Paying $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] WSG Redesign Closed
I have to agree with Mike and Neerav. Aaprt from what I believe to be a select few within the WSG membership, the majority joined on the basis of/as rookies in particular fields. It was my understanding that the Re-Design comp deemed, we as members only had to send a .jpg of our design. If that is correct, the WSG could have been flooded with designs using tables for layouts! Who would have known? That is, until we would have been asked to submit our code. So it is certainly better that the entrants were small in number, as I further believe those entrants will/could provide a fully CSS compliant version of their .jpg. Therefore R and P, please don't assume that the majority just could not be bothered to submit designs. If, on the otherhand, we were to have had a WSG poll to ask each member for example: Would you consider yourself in a designer-sense a:- 1) Newbie 2) Intermediate student 3) Guru Before the design comp, then I for one, would have had to put myself, somewhere between a and b. Ask yourselves, R and P. how many members have (roughly, within the past six months) added a nessage asking the other members to check a first ever design using XHTML/CSS? I know I fall into that catagory! So please don't be disheartened by the lack of response to the comp. And we really do all appreciate the help we are individually given here. Keep your heads up R and P and thank you for having us as WSG members. --- Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree with Mike While decently conversant with XHTML/CSS and learning more constantly, I don't call myself a graphics designer. So until I gain a lot more experience and skill, submitting a template for the WSG is as unlikely as my designs joining the CSS Zen Garden. Why not use the submitted designs as alternative stylesheets to the WSG site? -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Michael Kear wrote: Well I for one thought it was a worthwhile project, and a good thing to try. I didn't submit a design because I don't put myself in the same class as many of the others on this list. I wouldn't want to have my design work judged alongside professional designers. Now if you're talking about code and functionality and stuff, well my professional reputation will put me in the running I reckon, but not design skills. I'm here on this list as a learner, and I'm learning as fast as I can. But able to contribute a classy design as the showcase of this group? Not me. Couldn't do it. And specially not using the CSS/Accessibility techniques we're all learning. I'd venture to suggest there were quite a few of the members of this list who were in the same category as me. The impression I have is that there aren't all that many of the 600 list members who'd say they were fully conversant with all the techniques advocated by this group. Don't regard the response as lack of interest. Call it lack of expertise on the part of the list members with techniques that while familiar to you, are new and revolutionary to most of the web development world. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * _ Still Paying $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
Re: [WSG] WSG design competition (OT)
Hi all...well I cast my vote and was sorry I was unable to enter the comp; myself - due to travel/work commitments. I was also surprised that there were only four entries, given the membership of the group! Anyhow, (hope you don't mind this comment Russ), I thought your own design was great except in the choice of colour/color. A little too much like the original but, hey that's a personal opinion and maybe your thoughts were tainted towards the original colour scheme when you worked on your own design. The (clouds type/background) did not come across in good contrast mode, re: those with a visual disability may have found it difficult on the eyes. I just felt a more plain background may have won me over. In the end I pipped for Susan's design. Loved her logo and, the contrast throughout was more pleasing visually. A real pity there were not more to choose from. Regards, JG _ Still Paying $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net The Australian Museum. Australia's first - and leading - natural sciences and anthropology museum. Visit www.amonline.net.au The views in this email are those of the user and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Australian Museum. The information contained in this email message and any accompanying files is or may be confidential and is for the intended recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, dissemination, reliance, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any attached files is unauthorised. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete it and notify the sender.The Australian Museum does not guarantee the accuracy of any information contained in this e-mail or attached files. As Internet communications are not secure, the Australian Museum does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message or attached files.
Re: [WSG] New CSS site
Hi Peter...very clean looking site...sweet indeed. Only crit I found was in your div class=featurebox the img's (FEATUREARTCLE) (GO) move approx: 3px to the right when hovering over the latter - in Opera 7.11 Build 2887. Apart from that totally mini-glitch, the site looks brill. Well done. Regards, JG --- Universal Head [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Just about to be officially announced, my new fully CSS/XHTML 1.0 Trans site, and the smoothest experience I've had with css so far: http://www.cinema4duser.com Comments and crits most welcome. Peter Universal Head Design That Works. 7/43 Bridge Rd Stanmore NSW 2048 Australia T (+612) 9517 1466 F (+612) 9565 4747 E [EMAIL PROTECTED] W www.universalhead.com _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] Minor gripe
Hi everyone... a little OT (may be) A short time ago Peter Firmonger wrote to say could anyone who uses an Out of office auto email, to please desist. So here is my tuppence worth. When someone requires us all to view a link...can they please refrain from using the '' at the end of the url. As in: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; Please take the bracket of the url and simply use: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml Now my little rant is over...please, have a good weekend everyone. Regards, JG _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Minor gripe
Hi P. H. This kind of went off list, but I suppose Russ Peter could let you view the correspondence if you asked. Regards, JG --- P.H.Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Care to elaborate as to why ? I usually wrap long-ish URLs in opening and closing brackets, as that guarantees that they'll still be clickable even if the line they're on is wrapped... Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk -Original Message- From: LC 55 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 March 2004 12:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Minor gripe Hi everyone... a little OT (may be) A short time ago Peter Firmonger wrote to say could anyone who uses an Out of office auto email, to please desist. So here is my tuppence worth. When someone requires us all to view a link...can they please refrain from using the '' at the end of the url. As in: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; Please take the bracket of the url and simply use: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml Now my little rant is over...please, have a good weekend everyone. Regards, JG _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] turning back to the dark side...
Sorry for barging in here Michael. This is a bit OT, but I need to send you (Michael Donnermeyer) a PM to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]. So if you see, From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please open it, as it will be in plain text format with no attachments added. I have already tried to email you, but received no reply, so I assume you either did not receive the original, or have maybe deleted it, as it was a cold call. Perhaps Michael, you could send me a quick PM to let me know that you will okay this? Sorry also to everyone on the WSG, for this little interuptive message. Regards, JG --- Michael Donnermeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You actually expect Microsoft to create a product that works?!? G How about one that follows standards? (RIGHT!) All kidding aside, it's a royal pain in the U know what and it'll probably result in 'pattern baldness' from ripping your own hair out, but in the long run it'll be worth it. It's about time for M$ to 'evolve' (or copy someone elses idea as their own) anyway. I doubt I'd ever go back, personally. MD On Mar 4, 2004, at 22:26, Paul Ross wrote: How stupid are they over there in Redmond? We have had CSS1 since, what 1996/97 and 8 years down the track (that's 734 internet years) and IE is still blundering about like a drunken bull in a china shop. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Bobby question
Hi Justin Martin! Sorry about the previous post, it should have been addressed to Martin not to Justin, but it may be interesting for anyone who is thinking of buying the Bobby CD. Guess it's just too early here in the UK. Apologies again, JG --- Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, March 6, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Martin Chapman wrote: Just a quick question regarding the Bobby accessibility site. I am currently working on a site to convert to standards/validation specs. However, 99% of the site is user/password protected. I get round W3C validating the protected pages with Firefox's Web Developer extension (Validate Local HTML option). However, how can I do the same with the Bobby site? I noticed they have a CD for purchase, would this allow me to do such a thing? Depending on how many different pages/templates you need to validate with Bobby, this may prove to be enough: 1. login, and visit one of the pages 2. View Source on that page 3. Select All, Copy, and Paste into a new file 4. Save the file as plain HTML 5. Upload this file to a public web space somewhere 6. test accessibility with Bobby on that URL Alternatively, copy/mirror the site to another server/directory, remove the password restrictions, and validate that way. Alternatively, *temporarily* change the way the site responds to logins, so that you're using GET vars instead of POST, then supply bobby with a URL that includes a temporary user:pass combo, so that you can check the validity that way. Really though, just pay attention to the way Bobby reacts to other pages on the site, and make sure those problems are fixed on the protected pages as well. Same goes for WAG -- you can always manually check the pages for validity. After a while, building accessible pages becomes an automatic part of what you do. --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Bobby question
Hi Michael, hope this helps you. Bobby will allow you to test web pages and help expose and repair barriers to accessibility and encourage compliance with existing accessibility guidelines, such as Section 508 and the W3C's WCAG. View this at - http://bobby.watchfire.com/bobby/html/en/index.jsp It's just that thier own site above does not pass their tests, so it's a bit of an enigma to me! Regards, JG --- Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry if this is such a dumb question that it displays more of my ignorance than anything else, but this is the second time in the last few weeks I've heard references to Bobby, but Who the hell is Bobby? And what does he have to do with us? Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] DTDS and which to use?
Hi Jaime, you may also find this article of some use. Addy: http://leavesrustle.com/articles/124/ Good luck. Regards, JG I have always work with XHTML 1.0 Transitional and never really bothered with Strict until I yesterday when someone sub a project to me saying that the client wanted the page done using Strict because it is the latest. Is being the latest the point in using strict? I find it kinda amusing. What's the difference actually between the 3 besides how the web generates the page and how do you decide which to use? Pondered over this because I have never tried working with strict and now that I have, W3C xhtml validator is showing bunch of errors which I have no idea why it could be errors. Basically limiting me to the core. Urggh! Why would a person decide when to use Strict? Wouldn't using transitional be easier for making it work with certain database, scripts etc like for e.g. movable type? Anyone has a link to an online tutorial with working with strict xhtml dtds besides those links at W3C? Sorry for this non CSS related topic but just hope the list could help clear my confusion :) With Regards, Jaime Wong ~~~ SODesires Design Team http://www.sodesires.com ~~~ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Debrief and thanks to Russ Peter
Gremlins in the works or what chaps? Check the date on this original message below. Regards, JG Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 10:43:25 +1000 Tonight was my first WSG meeting and I'd just like to say a big thanks to Russ and Peter for organising such a great event. The thanks go entirely to Ben, who organised this WSG event - including co-ordinating three user groups - no easy task! --- russ weakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tonight was my first WSG meeting and I'd just like to say a big thanks to Russ and Peter for organising such a great event. The thanks go entirely to Ben, who organised this WSG event - including co-ordinating three user groups - no easy task! Russ: your talk was great and although I thought I knew a fair bit about accessibility I now know I still have a fair way to go. I'm about to finish a job in the next few weeks and I'm going to speak to the client about the benefits you mentioned in your presentation and convince them to spend time increasing the site's accessibility. Thanks for the wrap, Tim :) The presentation is here (in brief form) for anyone interested: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/benefits/ Thanks to everyone who made it tonight! Next WSG event - Melbourne 8th March. Russ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Tutorial on styling forms anywhere?
A screenshot of http://www.ddavenportphotography.com/contact.html looks like this: http://lc55.co.uk/test/rbaggs.jpg in Opera 7. Sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings. Regards, JG --- RBaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use this look with XHTML/CSS http://www.ddavenportphotography.com/contact.html - Original Message - From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:31 AM Subject: [WSG] Tutorial on styling forms anywhere? I've read the excellent tutorial at HTMLDog about Accessible forms (http://www.htmldog.com/guides/htmladvanced/forms.php) and its very very informative. Now I'm experimenting with styling forms - layout of labels and input etc. Is there a good tutorial anywhere that covers this stuff? What I'm looking for is things like how to align the label in relation to the input field it relates to, how to have the labels all aligning to the right, and the input fields aligning to the left of a line down the page (I used to use two columns of a table, right-align the left cells, and left-align the right cells). I'd like to know how to have the label for a 6row textarea input align vertically with the top of the box or the centre rather than the bottom as it does now. I'm thinking if there's a tutorial I'll make faster progress than the trial-and-error approach I'm using at the moment. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Tutorial on styling forms anywhere?
Hi Scott...Opera details, Version 7.11 Build 2887 Regards, JG --- scott parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which version of opera 7? there are like 3, and they all have rendering diferences LC 55 wrote: A screenshot of http://www.ddavenportphotography.com/contact.html looks like this: http://lc55.co.uk/test/rbaggs.jpg in Opera 7. Sorry to be the bringer of bad tidings. Regards, JG --- RBaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use this look with XHTML/CSS http://www.ddavenportphotography.com/contact.html - Original Message - From: Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:31 AM Subject: [WSG] Tutorial on styling forms anywhere? I've read the excellent tutorial at HTMLDog about Accessible forms (http://www.htmldog.com/guides/htmladvanced/forms.php) and its very very informative. Now I'm experimenting with styling forms - layout of labels and input etc. Is there a good tutorial anywhere that covers this stuff? What I'm looking for is things like how to align the label in relation to the input field it relates to, how to have the labels all aligning to the right, and the input fields aligning to the left of a line down the page (I used to use two columns of a table, right-align the left cells, and left-align the right cells). I'd like to know how to have the label for a 6row textarea input align vertically with the top of the box or the centre rather than the bottom as it does now. I'm thinking if there's a tutorial I'll make faster progress than the trial-and-error approach I'm using at the moment. Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Hover issue
Thanks Lucian for the feedback. I am puzzled re: you writing, The CSS doesn't validate. W3C validator was used and, the uri below validates it as CSS2. Hope the W3C were not just being kind to me! http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flc55.co.uk%2Ftest%2Fd.csswarning=1profile=css2usermedium=all Strange one this. So could you tell me where you tried the validation, please? Appreciate you testing it for me. Regards, JG --- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks great on IE / Mac, Safari and Firefox / Mac. CSS doesn't yet validate though. :) Lucian On Feb 16, 2004, at 4:01 PM, LC 55 wrote: Hi all... Anyone care to check - http://lc55.co.uk/test/index.html please. I have a problem in IE 6 re: background image. The image at bottom right moves slightly down the page when hovering over footer links. Does the same problem exist across other browsers? Or are you finding any other problems? Any help appreciated. Regards, JG _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] Hover issue
Pardon my ignorance please.
I tried the CSS validator using http://lc55.co.uk/test/index.html and got this
result...
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Flc55.co.uk%2Ftest%2Findex.htmlwarning=1profile=css2usermedium=all
Thanks for pointing this out Michael. (a very red face at this end).
Regards, JG
--- LC 55 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael, Peter and Lucian appreciate the feedback.
I'm still on a steep learning curve.
Firstly Michael, I was under the illusion if you tried to use the W3C CSS validator
with a .html extension, you wouldn't have a hope of getting it to validate, as
surely it is a .css only validator? Therefore how can it validate .html? (jigsaw
validator, I mean).
You'll probably have a simple explanation for me, I hope so, as I'm getting a bit lost
with this one.
As i said, I'm still quite green to this myself.
Also I know the CSS is untidy re: double ids etc. (still working on it).
New draft version at http://lc55.co.uk/test/index.html (where I have moved the
background image to top right).
and the uncondensed CSS draft is at http://lc55.co.uk/test/d.css
Help with condensing the CSS would be very appreciated if any of you guys can spare
the time.
Hope I'm not boring you guys to much, but I suppose we are all here to learn from each
other.
Thanks again, JG
--- Michael Donnermeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?
uri=http%3A%2F%2Flc55.co.uk%2Ftest%2Findex.html
Here's the issue in your #container:
margin-bottom: 0 auto;
You can't have two values here. Correct ones would be::
margin-bottom: 0ormargin-bottom: auto
Were you trying this maybe::margin: 0 auto(0 on top bottom,
auto for left and right)
The CSS could use some cleaning, looks like there's some doubles in
there (ids) and alot of double stating on things like background in
some ids.
I.E.:
#container {
width : 100%;
margin: 0 auto;
background : url(img/xr.gif) repeat 100% 50%;
background-repeat : no-repeat;
background-position : 100% 100%;
background-color : #d4dfd1;
font-family : Trebuchet MS, Lucida Grande, Verdana, Arial,
sans-serif;
font-size : 0.9em;
color : #333;
line-height : 115%;
}
Two questions arise there...in one you have it repeat, then you don't.
You have it position 100% 50% then 100% 100%. The later of the two
override the first ones. Be easier to condense everything into:
background: #d4dfd1 url(img/xr,gif) no-repeat bottom right;
MD
On Feb 16, 2004, at 04:08, LC 55 wrote:
Thanks Lucian for the feedback.
I am puzzled re: you writing, The CSS doesn't validate.
W3C validator was used and, the uri below validates it as CSS2.
Hope the W3C were not just being kind to me!
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?
uri=http%3A%2F%2Flc55.co.uk%2Ftest%2Fd.csswarning=1profile=css2userm
edium=all
Strange one this.
So could you tell me where you tried the validation, please?
Appreciate you testing it for me.
Regards, JG
--- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks great on IE / Mac, Safari and Firefox / Mac.
CSS doesn't yet validate though. :)
Lucian
On Feb 16, 2004, at 4:01 PM, LC 55 wrote:
Hi all...
Anyone care to check - http://lc55.co.uk/test/index.html please.
I have a problem in IE 6 re: background image.
The image at bottom right moves slightly down the page when hovering
over footer links.
Does the same problem exist across other browsers?
Or are you finding any other problems?
Any help appreciated.
Regards, JG
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Re: [WSG] Need help with navbar in Opera 7.11 please
Hi Michael...This may be some help to others as to how it actually looks in Opera 7. A cut-off screenshot of your problem: http://lc55.co.uk/test/mfs.jpg Regards, JG --- Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've put this page up on my dev site, and it works fine in IE6, fine in NN7.1, but in Opera 7.11 the lower level of menus are arranged vertically instead of horizontally. I'm not sure what's wrong - they worked ok this afternoon, now I've made some changes and they don't work. Easy, I said to myself, just put it back how it was this afternoon and it'll work again, then do the changes one at a time till it breaks then you'll know what you did wrong. Except when I loaded up this afternoon's version it still arranges the submenus vertically. Huh? I've looked and looked and I'm obviously too close to it because I cant see what's causing it to behave like that. Can anyone else see please? The page is at http://mezzanines.com.au/casestudies.cfm And the CSS is at http://mezzanines.com.au/styles/mezzanine.css and http://mezzanines.com.au/styles/menutabs.css I'm fully aware that the problem is probably going to end up being something stupid like a forgotten semicolon or something, but it verifies ok and so does the XHTML. (Oh and in case anyone's done some work in this field - all the text is stuff I've mocked up for the client - he's busily writing his own text now.) Cheers Mike Kear Windsor, NSW, Australia AFP Webworks http://afpwebworks.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] centering rigid content
Hi Roger. This is a screenshot of how your site looks in Opera 7. Addy: http://www.lc55.co.uk/test/ss1.jpg Perhaps you would be kind enough to give me some feedback on how my own test design looks, in whatever browsers are available to you. Addy: http://www.lc55.co.uk/test/index.html Apologies everyone, for the cross posting within this message. Regards, JG --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay so we got the nav bar settled now i am trying to clean it all up and send it live. http://www.desertstandard.net/yv2/index.php i found holly and big johns article on Source Ordered Columns and liked the ridged example near the bottom: http://www.positioniseverything.net/ordered-floats.html So I implemented that and now it seems to be centered and floating, but its not clearing the header and nav div's at the top of the page in Safari. I have no idea what its doing in IE6 (if anyone wants to tell me you can spare the gory details =) ). So what is the deal here? I have put clear:both; in both of the upper div's, is this the wrong thing? As always all comments are appreciated. Roger * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] Cross browser help
Hi everyone. Can anyone please check this design for me in their browsers? Address: http://lc55.co.uk/test/index.html I tried the trial registration for BrowserCam, but the link I was told to go to would not let me login! I had never tried the trial at BrowserCam before, so can't understand the problem? Any feedback much appreciated. Kindest regards, JG _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare
Roger...horiz. nav bar is sitting approx. 10px below purple header in Opera 7. Regards, JG --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ooops sorry, www.desertstandard.net/yv/ Original Message Subject: Re: [WSG] horizontal nav bar nightmare From: Paul Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, February 10, 2004 10:50 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Roger, I am getting a 404 page not found with that URL. Regards PAUL ROSS SkyRocket Design Co Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Here is the site: www.desertstandard.net/YV/ - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] CSS and IE / Mac
Hi Lucian. Your tabs are nestled (almost) one on top of the other, vertically in Opera 7. This problem appeared before on this forum and should find the answer on a recent post by Hugh Todd. Good luck, JG --- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been very impressed with the camaraderie exhibited on this list, even for OT posts. I just finished a XHTML / CSS redesign (http://allegro-ems.com/), and tested it out in several browsers. It seems to cut it for all except IE / Mac. The footer gets smashed against the right side. I've been trying to figure out why for the past few days. I'm out of my league here. I've also had one comment that IE6 / PC messes up the About Us and Career pages but renders the Partners page just fine. I'm baffled. The CSS and layout for those three pages are identical. I'm swept under the browser-bug whirlpool. Lucian tribolum.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] CSS and IE / Mac
BTW, I should have mentioned, the uppermost tab showing fully is the 'Contact' tab. If you need a .gif of what I mean, please let me know? Regards, JG --- Lucian Teo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been very impressed with the camaraderie exhibited on this list, even for OT posts. I just finished a XHTML / CSS redesign (http://allegro-ems.com/), and tested it out in several browsers. It seems to cut it for all except IE / Mac. The footer gets smashed against the right side. I've been trying to figure out why for the past few days. I'm out of my league here. I've also had one comment that IE6 / PC messes up the About Us and Career pages but renders the Partners page just fine. I'm baffled. The CSS and layout for those three pages are identical. I'm swept under the browser-bug whirlpool. Lucian tribolum.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] Yep, going slowly insane
Have to admit, it is only XHTML Strict I ever use and, from a personal perspective i wouldn't waste my time on Transitional doctypes. I am also a one man designer, so I can understand the amount of head scratching going on among us all at times, but as David McD stated: Things come together with a lot more consistency. And they will. BFN, JG --- David McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, What I have found, is that by using an XHTML Strict doctype rather than a XHTMLTransitional doctype, things seem to come together with a lot more consistency across the different browsers. Hope this helps... Regards, David McDonald Web Designer http://www.davidmcdonald.org http://www.davidmcdonald.org/ Southbank, Melbourne Australia Mobile: 0403 332 140 ICQ: 11814164 _ Why Pay $35 for a .COM, .NET or .ORG Web Address? iDotz.Net offers Cool Domains @ Great Prices! Starting @ $8.75 Go: http://www.idotz.net * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
