Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
Thanks for all those thoughts - I'd guessed it pretty much but it's nice to have confirmation. I'll let you know what the site owners say! (www.newstatesman.co.uk had a similar problem and were oblivious to the fact the site didn't work on anything other than their setup. I ended up emailing them the simple solution, though I'm not sure they've implemented it yet) JB On 11 Dec 2003, at 22:56, James Ellis wrote: Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work in Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down. "Error: document.newsnav has no properties Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp Line: 68" The JS file has an ASP extension. Gotta love those spacer gifs. Cheers James Jonathan Baldwin wrote: I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're all just # links. I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my bleary eyes just aren't seeing it. I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so I can use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. http://www.gramophone.co.uk Jonathan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
On the topic of drop down menus, i've found Ben Boyle's menus to be extremely useful: http://inspire.server101.com/js/mb/mb.html I think Ben's a member of this list, too. The menus are built with plaint text, list items, CSS and a little javascript and seem to work very well cross browser, including Mac IE 5 and Safari. If javascript is not enabled, the user is presented with a list item as an alternative. I've used variations of these menus for quite a few sites I have worked on, and they are very extensible and customisable. Regards, David McDonald Web Designer Melbourne, Australia http://www.davidmcdonald.org ICQ:11814164 - Original Message - From: James Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:56 am Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site > > Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work > in > Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down. > > "Error: document.newsnav has no properties > Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp > Line: 68" > > The JS file has an ASP extension. > > Gotta love those spacer gifs. > > Cheers > James > > Jonathan Baldwin wrote: > > > > > I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for > a CD > > review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, > they're > > all just # links. > > I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't > work > > before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a > case > > of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my > bleary > > eyes just aren't seeing it. > > > > I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so I > can > > use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. > > > > http://www.gramophone.co.uk > > > > Jonathan > > > > * > > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > * > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
It's broken. The menu uses Javascript to dynamically create fly-out menus. It doesn't work in my Mac/Safari 1.1 nor Win/Firebird 0.7. It does work in Win/IE 6 Without delving, I would hazard a guess that IE specific JS statements are disabling the menu. Cheers, Ben Jonathan Baldwin wrote: I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're all just # links. I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my bleary eyes just aren't seeing it. I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so I can use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work in Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down. "Error: document.newsnav has no properties Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp Line: 68" The JS file has an ASP extension. Gotta love those spacer gifs. Cheers James Jonathan Baldwin wrote: I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're all just # links. I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my bleary eyes just aren't seeing it. I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so I can use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. http://www.gramophone.co.uk Jonathan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
Hi Jonathon, It has dynamic menus that you're not getting in Safari. A good illustration of not testing (or caring about) cross platform compatibility. This is also a good time to point out that if you use these types of dynamic menus, you must point the initial link to a meaningful address (a page that contains all the links that the menu would provide if it worked) so that anyone that doesn't get the menu still has an option. P > -Original Message- > From: Jonathan Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:40 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site > > > I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD > review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't > work, they're > all just # links. > I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work > before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case > of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my bleary > eyes just aren't seeing it. > > I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so > I can use > it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. > > http://www.gramophone.co.uk > > Jonathan > > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > * > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site
I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're all just # links. I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case of "this site does not support Macs?" Whatever the problem my bleary eyes just aren't seeing it. I'm interested to know the reason it's "broken" (if it is) so I can use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point. http://www.gramophone.co.uk Jonathan * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
