Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-06-04 Thread David Storey
At least for the top mobile browsers such as Nokia S60, the Safari version for iPhone and Opera's mobile browsers, they can cope with full HTML and XHTML and CSS, so they can handle the regular desktop site. Some render the page in desktop mode, and some reformat the page to fit in one

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-31 Thread Nick Cowie
Katrina I would serve XHTML and stick to XHTML-Basic or XHTML-MP subset of features. Because not all elements are available in XHTML-Basic or XHTML-MP for example button. So if you build a form use input type=submit not button type=submit otherwise most mobile users will not be able to submit

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-31 Thread Katrina
Nick Cowie wrote: Katrina I would serve XHTML and stick to XHTML-Basic or XHTML-MP subset of features. Gday Nick, Thank you for your response : Which accompanying mime type would you choose for XHTML-Basic? text/xml application/xhtml + xml application/xml Note: XHTML-MP has it's

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-31 Thread Stuart Foulstone
Hi, You may find the following dotmobi tools helpful: Free online mobile-readiness report, http://ready.mobi/launch.jsp?locale=en_EN Free online mobile emulator, http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.php The W3C tests that these are based on is here: http://www.w3.org/TR/mobileOK-basic10-tests/

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-31 Thread Nick Cowie
Hi Katrina I have not done enough research on this, but: If I creating a site that I expected mobile browsers to visit (ie every site I create from now) I would use XHTML 1.0 transitional DTD, mime type of text/html and restrict my XHTML to the XHTML-MP subset and my CSS to the WCSS subset If

Re: [WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-31 Thread Dejan Kozina
You may find a lot of real-world info here: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wmlprogramming/ It might not be to everyone's taste, as the group is often critical of the W3C and its mobile efforts, perceived as choosing theoretical constructs over what real handsets are out there in the

[WSG] Mobiles and standards

2007-05-30 Thread Katrina
Gday, What mark-up is best used for mobile devices? And why? W3C standards (HTML4 or XHTML 1.0) or other (XHTML-Basic, XHTML-MP, WML, HDML) ? Do the 'other' count as standards? Can mobile devices process CSS 2.1 or less when served as media=handheld? (I am coming across some references to