RE: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Steve Green
I don't recommend that solution. We have tested this kind of form with a highly proficient screen reader user, and he could not understand it at all. In fact it was one of the few tasks he has ever failed to complete. This is one of those cases where marking up content so it is semantically

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread russ - maxdesign
Hi Nick, The sample code on this page you link to does not look ideal. As has been mentioned on this list a few times, title attributes are often ignored by screen readers. And the use of a table element to lay out the form is a little odd. Unless I am missing something, I'd say it would be much

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Steve Green wrote: I recommend using label elements for each radio button and hiding them off-screen. Possibly even better for keyboard and screenreader users: swapping out the radio buttons approach with a single SELECT. However, this of course throws the expected visual design out the

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Patrick, Actually I had already prepared one as an alternative version to discuss with the client so glad you brought it up independently. Nick On 04/12/2007, at 5:10 AM, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Steve Green wrote: I recommend using label elements for each radio button and hiding them

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Nick Lo
Hi Steve, I don't recommend that solution. We have tested this kind of form with a highly proficient screen reader user, and he could not understand it at all. In fact it was one of the few tasks he has ever failed to complete. This is one of those cases where marking up content so it is

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Nick Lo
On 04/12/2007, at 12:07 AM, russ - maxdesign wrote: Hi Nick, The sample code on this page you link to does not look ideal. As has been mentioned on this list a few times, title attributes are often ignored by screen readers. And the use of a table element to lay out the form is a

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Nick Lo
The problem with the code below is that the content of the legend will be read before every label. That makes it very difficult for a screen reader user to read it fast. I would just have the question in a p or possibly even a header element. Once the user has read through a few questions

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Steve Green wrote: The problem with the code below is that the content of the legend will be read before every label. That makes it very difficult for a screen reader user to read it fast. I would just have the question in a p or possibly even a header element. However, if the user is in JAWS'

RE: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Steve Green
@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms On 04/12/2007, at 12:07 AM, russ - maxdesign wrote: Hi Nick, The sample code on this page you link to does not look ideal. As has been mentioned on this list a few times, title attributes are often

RE: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Steve Green
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Lo Sent: 03 December 2007 23:51 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms The problem with the code below is that the content of the legend will be read before every label. That makes it very

Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
to navigate quickly. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: 04 December 2007 00:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms Steve Green wrote

RE: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms

2007-12-03 Thread Steve Green
they will be able to navigate quickly. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent: 04 December 2007 00:00 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible likert scale (disagree/agree/strongly agree/etc) forms