RE: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Count me in, Chris. I use TSP3.1, and it's good. But I'm open to ideas. Mail me details and schedules off list. Mike PepperAccessible Web Developerwww.seowebsitepromotion.comwww.gawds.org
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Im not trying to beat anything. I just want a simple program, that hopefully can be free. which will simply compress your CSS code. I have heard a lot of good things about TopStyle. Although I usually like coding in an environment which doesn't interfere with my coding. (I dont know if it does - I am just sayiing i dont like that)... I prefer a plain text based editor, with nothing special except maybe an autocomplete of functions, and colour syntax highlighting... anyway. Maybe i can beat TS :S LoL :) Right! t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote: I agree & I think Topstyle is the program you should have a go to try and beat mate. Although its pretty hard, it has a cult following the guys talented And Macromedia was focrced to put heaps of focus on Dreamweavers CSS capabilites cuz TS is the CSS GOD. Its pretty hard to beat. You prepared for that level of programming? Just being honest - but it is hard to move a cult followed application. Camz. - Original Message - From: "Kay Smoljak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I think I can do most, if not all of that with TopStyle Stylesweepers. You can save the parameters ton run them again - I have a super-compressed stylesweeper, and an ultra-readable one. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Hi Chris, It's a COM object so it will work in VB with either early or late binding. Contact me outside the list if you need a hand using the component. This component converts a CSS to XML and back. Once in XML format, you can load it into a DOM XML parser (like MSXML) and manipulate CSS properties through DOM. To convert XML back to CSS, the component uses a built-in XSLT to do this. Since you will need to minimize white space, etc. you will probably want to do this step yourself. Here is the link to the XSLT that is built-into the component. Feel free to modify and use it yourself. http://xstandard.com/misc/wsg/css.xsl Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML Strict / 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed Hey Vlad, Thanks for the link I am downloading it now. Although I already fully coded my algorithm and its working 100% fine so far... I could have saved myself an hour or two :S Is the file a object for VB? thanks! Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Hi Chris, I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. If you are on Windows, you can use our free CSS parser. Here is the link: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=E784B605-2413-49B1-B17C-20A634CB0150 Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML Strict / 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:02 AM Subject: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed Hey List, I am currently developing a little software package which will help you manage your CSS and your bandwidth. What it does is it will compress your CSS. Its not very intelligent so it doesnt do anything really special. All it will do is Load a CSS file - Parse the file. It will then allow a few differnt levels of output. These are: VERBOSE - Which will include all the comments, full indentation etc... 1st Level Compression - Removes the comments - still full indentation 2nd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation 3rd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines) 4th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)... 5th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)..., removes the line beween classes - makes the CSS all on one single line OR I could have a bnch of checkboxes where you select what type of output you want... eg - indentation etc... At the moment the program does not compress anything. I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. At the moment some of the problems I have had to over come are: When there are :'s in Selectors - eg: a.title:hover When there is no ; on the end of the last value, of a selector When there are ;'s etc inside comments... All those have been fixed. I just need to test a wide variety of files... If you want to participate please send me some of the weirdest CSS you have, which is 100% VALID on the W3C Validator. Thats what I am using as the Caveat for performance... it must first pass that test before you can compress it... Otherwise the results will vary a lot from what you expect... :) Thanks a lot! - Chris Stratford BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I want to see them!!! :) Also this will be 100% Freeware to members of the WSG list :) I might try and charge a $5 fee for licences in the future... Thanks again! * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
I agree & I think Topstyle is the program you should have a go to try and beat mate. Although its pretty hard, it has a cult following the guys talented And Macromedia was focrced to put heaps of focus on Dreamweavers CSS capabilites cuz TS is the CSS GOD. Its pretty hard to beat. You prepared for that level of programming? Just being honest - but it is hard to move a cult followed application. Camz. - Original Message - From: "Kay Smoljak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 11:03 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed > > BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let > > me know! > > I think I can do most, if not all of that with TopStyle Stylesweepers. > You can save the parameters ton run them again - I have a > super-compressed stylesweeper, and an ultra-readable one. > > > -- > Kay Smoljak > http://kay.smoljak.com > * > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > * > > > > * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
> BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let > me know! I think I can do most, if not all of that with TopStyle Stylesweepers. You can save the parameters ton run them again - I have a super-compressed stylesweeper, and an ultra-readable one. -- Kay Smoljak http://kay.smoljak.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Hey Vlad, Thanks for the link I am downloading it now. Although I already fully coded my algorithm and its working 100% fine so far... I could have saved myself an hour or two :S Is the file a object for VB? thanks! Vlad Alexander (XStandard) wrote: Hi Chris, I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. If you are on Windows, you can use our free CSS parser. Here is the link: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=E784B605-2413-49B1-B17C-20A634CB0150 Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML Strict / 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:02 AM Subject: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed Hey List, I am currently developing a little software package which will help you manage your CSS and your bandwidth. What it does is it will compress your CSS. Its not very intelligent so it doesnt do anything really special. All it will do is Load a CSS file - Parse the file. It will then allow a few differnt levels of output. These are: VERBOSE - Which will include all the comments, full indentation etc... 1st Level Compression - Removes the comments - still full indentation 2nd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation 3rd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines) 4th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)... 5th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)..., removes the line beween classes - makes the CSS all on one single line OR I could have a bnch of checkboxes where you select what type of output you want... eg - indentation etc... At the moment the program does not compress anything. I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. At the moment some of the problems I have had to over come are: When there are :'s in Selectors - eg: a.title:hover When there is no ; on the end of the last value, of a selector When there are ;'s etc inside comments... All those have been fixed. I just need to test a wide variety of files... If you want to participate please send me some of the weirdest CSS you have, which is 100% VALID on the W3C Validator. Thats what I am using as the Caveat for performance... it must first pass that test before you can compress it... Otherwise the results will vary a lot from what you expect... :) Thanks a lot! - Chris Stratford BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I want to see them!!! :) Also this will be 100% Freeware to members of the WSG list :) I might try and charge a $5 fee for licences in the future... Thanks again! * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
Re: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Hi Chris, >>I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. If you are on Windows, you can use our free CSS parser. Here is the link: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=E784B605-2413-49B1-B17C-20A634CB0150 Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team XHTML Strict / 1.1 WYSIWYG editor http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: Chris Stratford To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2004 6:02 AM Subject: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed Hey List, I am currently developing a little software package which will help you manage your CSS and your bandwidth. What it does is it will compress your CSS. Its not very intelligent so it doesnt do anything really special. All it will do is Load a CSS file - Parse the file. It will then allow a few differnt levels of output. These are: VERBOSE - Which will include all the comments, full indentation etc... 1st Level Compression - Removes the comments - still full indentation 2nd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation 3rd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines) 4th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)... 5th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)..., removes the line beween classes - makes the CSS all on one single line OR I could have a bnch of checkboxes where you select what type of output you want... eg - indentation etc... At the moment the program does not compress anything. I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. At the moment some of the problems I have had to over come are: When there are :'s in Selectors - eg: a.title:hover When there is no ; on the end of the last value, of a selector When there are ;'s etc inside comments... All those have been fixed. I just need to test a wide variety of files... If you want to participate please send me some of the weirdest CSS you have, which is 100% VALID on the W3C Validator. Thats what I am using as the Caveat for performance... it must first pass that test before you can compress it... Otherwise the results will vary a lot from what you expect... :) Thanks a lot! - Chris Stratford BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I want to see them!!! :) Also this will be 100% Freeware to members of the WSG list :) I might try and charge a $5 fee for licences in the future... Thanks again! * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help *
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Hey Patrick, Yeah the program will parse the actuall CSS and list all the SELECTORS, the PROPERTIES and VALUES (And Comments). It works by parsing each character. The algorithm took me an hour or two just to write up. It wasn't simple. That is why you cannot use this software with non compliant CSS. I know what you mean about the $5 fee. But I am planning on expanding the software to including an editor too... So that you can edit and develop the CSS from scratch with my software. Although personally I think its best to type by hand... This program will be good for batch processing really... I dont know... When I am done I will send a link around to you all and you can test it out for me if you like. I just need some style sheets at the moment, so please send them to me off list as attachments... Thanks list! Patrick Lauke wrote: Sounds interesting, but...I can do all that already with some find/replaces, so I'm not sure if people will be willing to pay for it (even if $5 is such a low price). Or are you planning to have your tool parse the actual CSS, rather than simply looking for occurences of comments, spaces, line-breaks ? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk
RE: [WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Sounds interesting, but...I can do all that already with some find/replaces, so I'm not sure if people will be willing to pay for it (even if $5 is such a low price). Or are you planning to have your tool parse the actual CSS, rather than simply looking for occurences of comments, spaces, line-breaks ? Patrick Patrick H. LaukeWebmaster / University of Salfordhttp://www.salford.ac.uk
[WSG] ALPHA Testers Needed
Hey List, I am currently developing a little software package which will help you manage your CSS and your bandwidth. What it does is it will compress your CSS. Its not very intelligent so it doesnt do anything really special. All it will do is Load a CSS file - Parse the file. It will then allow a few differnt levels of output. These are: VERBOSE - Which will include all the comments, full indentation etc... 1st Level Compression - Removes the comments - still full indentation 2nd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation 3rd Level Compression - Removes comments, removes tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines) 4th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)... 5th Level Compression - Removes comments, removed tabbed indentation, takes braces up onto a shared line (so they arent on their own lines), removes line breaks between properties (so all selectors have a line of their own, with all the properties and values on that line)..., removes the line beween classes - makes the CSS all on one single line OR I could have a bnch of checkboxes where you select what type of output you want... eg - indentation etc... At the moment the program does not compress anything. I am still working on the Parsing algorigthm. At the moment some of the problems I have had to over come are: When there are :'s in Selectors - eg: a.title:hover When there is no ; on the end of the last value, of a selector When there are ;'s etc inside comments... All those have been fixed. I just need to test a wide variety of files... If you want to participate please send me some of the weirdest CSS you have, which is 100% VALID on the W3C Validator. Thats what I am using as the Caveat for performance... it must first pass that test before you can compress it... Otherwise the results will vary a lot from what you expect... :) Thanks a lot! - Chris Stratford BTW - IF there are any programs out there that do this - please let me know! I want to see them!!! :) Also this will be 100% Freeware to members of the WSG list :) I might try and charge a $5 fee for licences in the future... Thanks again!
