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Behalf Of Nick Gleitzman
Sent: 09 June 2004 02:21
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Action to force browser developers to clean up their
act
On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Peter Firminger wrote:
> Could it be that your site is broken, not the browser?
In response to Peter Firminger's response;
"If you have to use a multitude of hacks to get your design to work in
IE then you just plain built it wrong. Ask for help. That's what this
list is for."
"Using hacks to fix what you're doing (probably for pixel perfection) is
a far bigger problem than
On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, at 10:26 AM, Peter Firminger wrote:
Could it be that your site is broken, not the browser? We don't have
any
trouble accommodating IE with standards compliant code. I think your
taking
the argument too far and blaming the tool.
There are very few issues remaining if
The first step should be a clear and unequivocal statement that we
will not
write fixes for new non-compliant browsers. Design a new Browser by all
means, but make it compliant.
By "non-compliant" you mean that they do not adhere to the standards
put down by the W3C whose role is the development
Nick,
> No, no - I'm not suggesting for a second we should *only* develop for
> IE, or any other certain browsers! Just the opposite - I make a point
> of delivering my clients' message to the maximum number of visitors.
> And I'm not bitter; just realistic. That's why I say 'IE is here to
> stay'
On Wednesday, June 9, 2004, at 01:41 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If we are going to make sites that only work in certain browsers why
not just
code to IE's standards and not bother with the obscure browsers like
firefox
and opera. That way we don't need standards at all! I can have my
marqu
If we are going to make sites that only work in certain browsers why not just
code to IE's standards and not bother with the obscure browsers like firefox
and opera. That way we don't need standards at all! I can have my marquee
tag back and my ActiveX controls - Ill be able to do all kinds of g
On Tuesday, June 8, 2004, at 08:11 PM, Giles Clark wrote:
Isn't it about time we took a more active role in shaping the future of
browsers. We could clearly state that as a community we write/develop
for a
list of acceptable browsers which comply to standards (we're just
going to
have to live w
> It seems to me that the web developer/designer community spends a huge
> amount of time whinging about the browser developers and
> their product's
> non-compliance, when the answer to the problem lies in their
> own hands.
The onus is shared between content developers, browser developers, use
It seems to me that the web developer/designer community spends a huge
amount of time whinging about the browser developers and their product's
non-compliance, when the answer to the problem lies in their own hands.
Our apparent willingness to jump through testing/bug-fix hoops because of
the newe
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