Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread Micky Hulse
David Little wrote: These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: Seems like you are over-thinking it. swfObject or UFO. I personally prefer the latter mostly due to reasons I stated before (cms... needing access to certain params for dynamic setup.)

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-07-02 Thread David Little
These solutions are interesting, but I'm only willing to spend time looking at them if: * Users without Javascript but with Flash can still view the movies * I can integrate them with my CMS (Plone) -- I'll need to generate the code dynamically * I don't have to litter the with Javascript snippe

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-30 Thread Sander Aarts
Tate Johnson schreef: On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote: It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I wasn't aware that you could put your alternative content within the tag -- that's going to be very useful. This seems to be the best way forward for me at present with my lim

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-29 Thread Tate Johnson
On 29/06/2007, at 6:52 PM, David Little wrote: I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what does a user get if they *choose* not use Flash? Is alt-content handled? It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I wasn'

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-29 Thread David Little
I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what does a user get if they *choose* not use Flash? Is alt-content handled? It shows my limited knowledge of this area that I wasn't aware that you could put your alternative conte

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Micky Hulse
Sander Aarts wrote: I prefer it above SWFObject as it seems to be more web standards compliant. Well that's what Bobby says himself anyway ;-) in this A list Apart article about Flash embedding: I like the UFO approach, but I found that it is not the best option if you have to dynamically ap

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Sander Aarts
Tom Livingston schreef: On 6/27/07, David Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very gratefully received! I use this: http://blog.deconcept.com/s

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Micky Hulse
Designer wrote: Note the 5th line of code. If a user doesn't have Flash, he/she just sees the equivalent gif. NO pestering. Interesting. Thanks for sharing that. :) I personally prefer swfObject. UFO is another (unobtrusive alternative to swfObject): I

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Designer
Tom Livingston wrote: [snip] What I like about SWFObject, is the easy way to deliver basically *any* alternate content for a user without Flash. So a user choosing to not use Flash can still have a somewhat rich experience instead of just getting the "Download Flash" message. Just a thought.

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread Tom Livingston
I think the answer here may lie in descriptive help text about which plugin you may need rather than anything more complex Thanks again, David > I see your point here. The only thing I wonder about, and forgive me if I am just in need of more coffee here, but what does a user get if they *cho

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-28 Thread David Little
Hi, Thanks for your replies on this. I'd embedded the movie in the way Tim described -- I was thinking more along the lines of what you would do when you use this method to deal with the inevitable messages you get when you don't have the plugin installed. You'd get round this with a detection sc

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-27 Thread Tom Livingston
On 6/27/07, David Little <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very gratefully received! I use this: http://blog.deconcept.com/swfobject/ Not sure about

Re: [WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-27 Thread Tim Palac
I use conditional code on my site - seems the best way to go if you want to follow standards. Personally I just never had the patience to dive into those A List Apart Flash Satay and other methods. The general issue is that IE and all other browsers render Flash differently. I've tested this in

[WSG] Best practice embedding a Quicktime/Flash video

2007-06-27 Thread David Little
Hi, I'm looking for some advice on best practice methods of embedding a QT/Flash movie in a page in a standards compliant way, so any ideas would be very gratefully received! At the moment my page embeds a video using the standards compliant method for QT videos as described by Elizabeth Castro