RE: [WSG] Copycat site

[Rick Faircloth]

Are you a moderator for this list, Joe?

Sometimes, moderators know it's best just to let a comment
go, especially if it seems short-lived, rather than comment
on it as you and start up a fire storm.

It was the weekend, and it was just a comment about copyright.

It does help that a good moderator know *when* to moderate
and with what *tone*.  And yes, the slap-on-the-wrist could
have been much gentler in tone.

Rick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Taylor
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 8:48 AM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: Re: [WSG] Copycat site
> 
> Everyone (newbies to the list especially):
> 
> Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the things
> that happen on here you should be aware of:
> 
>1. This list's purpose is discussing items related to web standards.
>   Sometimes the lines of what fits here are blurred and thats ok.
>   I've been on the list for 2 years now (I think) and I've seen
>   many, many topics come and go that range from appropriate to
>   completely inappropriate.
> 
>2. Occasionally off-topic discussions go so far that the admins have
>   to come in and give everyone a "knock it off!". It happens.
>   Sometimes new members get upset when scolded for such things.  Its
>   no big deal.  Many of the members on this list are extremely
>   knowledgeable and have been on this list for a long time and are
>   frequent contributors and help A LOT of newbies.
> 
>3. These same people have seen many many newbies come and go, many
>   with the same OT discussions they want to throw out at everyone -
>   like in this instance copycat sites.  That topic does not belong
>   here. Plain and simple.
> 
>4. Grandma used to say, "You'll catch more flies with honey than with
>   vinegar."  In this case, the veteren member could not have put the
>   OT reminder more nicely.  In fact in 2 years its the most clear
>   and pleasant way I may have seen, yet...
> 
>5. Then another global round of thousands if emails need to get
>   generated so the other member can complain in the manner they were
>   addressed. Then this email(there will be a bunch more too)
> 
>6. My point?  This isn't Myspace.  Leave the snippy remarks at the
>   hair salon where they belong.  This is supposed to be a community
>   of clever minds and intelligent discussions - regarding web standards.
> 
> Sorry - I just couldn't help myself from writing this post.  I was once
> the snippy newbie to who yelled at members everytime I was mildly
> insultedit happens but hopefully we can rise above it.
> 
> Joseph R. B. Taylor
> /Designer / Developer/
> --
> Sites by Joe, LLC
> /"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/
> Phone: (609) 335-3076
> Fax: (866) 301-8045
> Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Yes Adam, you're right - I will remember that for future posts...
> >
> > Maybe you can remember your social graces when replying.
> >
> > Quoting Adam Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >> ...and this is related to web standards how?
> >> I don't mind these posts - but please mark them [OT]
> >>
> >> - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:57 AM
> >> Subject: [WSG] Copycat site
> >>
> >>
> >>> This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally
> >>>  in the online world.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to
> >>> the  point of having the same tabs in the navigation
> >>>
> >>> www.foryoung.com
> >>> COPY OF
> >>> www.webdesignerwall.com
> >>>
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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[Joseph Taylor]

Matthew Pennell wrote:
On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Joseph Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the
things that happen on here you should be aware of:


You missed out "Don't top-post" and "trim replies"... ;)

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- Matthew


Good call!

Joseph R. B. Taylor
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--
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Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[Matthew Pennell]

On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Joseph Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the things that
> happen on here you should be aware of:
>

You missed out "Don't top-post" and "trim replies"... ;)

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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[Joseph Taylor]

Everyone (newbies to the list especially):

Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the things 
that happen on here you should be aware of:


  1. This list's purpose is discussing items related to web standards. 
 Sometimes the lines of what fits here are blurred and thats ok. 
 I've been on the list for 2 years now (I think) and I've seen

 many, many topics come and go that range from appropriate to
 completely inappropriate.

  2. Occasionally off-topic discussions go so far that the admins have
 to come in and give everyone a "knock it off!". It happens. 
 Sometimes new members get upset when scolded for such things.  Its

 no big deal.  Many of the members on this list are extremely
 knowledgeable and have been on this list for a long time and are
 frequent contributors and help A LOT of newbies.

  3. These same people have seen many many newbies come and go, many
 with the same OT discussions they want to throw out at everyone -
 like in this instance copycat sites.  That topic does not belong
 here. Plain and simple.

  4. Grandma used to say, "You'll catch more flies with honey than with
 vinegar."  In this case, the veteren member could not have put the
 OT reminder more nicely.  In fact in 2 years its the most clear
 and pleasant way I may have seen, yet...

  5. Then another global round of thousands if emails need to get
 generated so the other member can complain in the manner they were
 addressed. Then this email(there will be a bunch more too)

  6. My point?  This isn't Myspace.  Leave the snippy remarks at the
 hair salon where they belong.  This is supposed to be a community
 of clever minds and intelligent discussions - regarding web standards.

Sorry - I just couldn't help myself from writing this post.  I was once 
the snippy newbie to who yelled at members everytime I was mildly 
insultedit happens but hopefully we can rise above it.


Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/"Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design"/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yes Adam, you're right - I will remember that for future posts...

Maybe you can remember your social graces when replying.

Quoting Adam Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


...and this is related to web standards how?
I don't mind these posts - but please mark them [OT]

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: [WSG] Copycat site


This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally 
 in the online world.


I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to  
the  point of having the same tabs in the navigation


www.foryoung.com
COPY OF
www.webdesignerwall.com

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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RE: [WSG] Copycat site

[Kepler Gelotte]

> This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally in  
> the online world.

> I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to the  
> point of having the same tabs in the navigation

I have to agree they look similar but certainly aren't copies of each other.
A bigger issue (at least in my eyes) is that is you turn images off,
navigation (on foryoung.com), links and headings disappear. 


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Neighbor Webmaster, Inc.
156 Normandy Dr., Piscataway, NJ 08854
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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[cf]

Yes Adam, you're right - I will remember that for future posts...

Maybe you can remember your social graces when replying.

Quoting Adam Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


...and this is related to web standards how?
I don't mind these posts - but please mark them [OT]

- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: [WSG] Copycat site


This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally  
 in the online world.


I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to   
the  point of having the same tabs in the navigation


www.foryoung.com
COPY OF
www.webdesignerwall.com

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[Jeff Reid]

Actually the foryoung.com is a template.  I just fownloaded it last night 
for myself.


Jeff


- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Faircloth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 9:38 PM
Subject: RE: [WSG] Copycat site



I don't think so...if you look through the webdesignerwall.com site,
you'll see that the author has posted tutorials about how to create
just such a menu.

If anything, the designer of foryoung.com has paid a compliment to the
author of webdesignerwall. by using the tutorial...

Rick


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:58 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Copycat site

This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally in
the online world.

I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to the
point of having the same tabs in the navigation

www.foryoung.com
COPY OF
www.webdesignerwall.com

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au





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RE: [WSG] Copycat site

[Rick Faircloth]

I don't think so...if you look through the webdesignerwall.com site,
you'll see that the author has posted tutorials about how to create
just such a menu.

If anything, the designer of foryoung.com has paid a compliment to the
author of webdesignerwall. by using the tutorial...

Rick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 8:58 PM
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: [WSG] Copycat site
> 
> This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally in
> the online world.
> 
> I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to the
> point of having the same tabs in the navigation
> 
> www.foryoung.com
> COPY OF
> www.webdesignerwall.com
> 
> ___
> Christian Fagan
> Fagan Design
> fagandesign.com.au




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Re: [WSG] Copycat site

[Adam Martin]

...and this is related to web standards how?
I don't mind these posts - but please mark them [OT]

- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 10:57 AM
Subject: [WSG] Copycat site


This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally in  
the online world.


I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to the  
point of having the same tabs in the navigation


www.foryoung.com
COPY OF
www.webdesignerwall.com

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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[WSG] Copycat site

[cf]

This is the first time I've come across such an occurence naturally in  
the online world.


I'm sure it happens all the time - this one seems just blatant to the  
point of having the same tabs in the navigation


www.foryoung.com
COPY OF
www.webdesignerwall.com

___
Christian Fagan
Fagan Design
fagandesign.com.au


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