Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Ben Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're using a mac then I must highly recommend TextMate (http://macromates.com/) as the best text-editor I've ever used. It has full syntax highlighting but it's real power comes with snippets, code blocks you can program yourself. I'll second the TextMate goodness. It's all I've used since late 2004 (and I haven't had to pay for a single upgrade since then), and the awesomeness of bundles means that as stuff like jquery became trendy, bundles were released to work with it. So, no waiting for some vendor to 'build in' tools. - Raena -- Raena Jackson Armitage www.raena.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
It has full syntax highlighting but it's real power comes with snippets, code blocks you can program yourself. Dreamweaver also has a Snippets panel with built in snippets and you can easily create your own in whatever category you wish and store them there, whether it be CSS snippets, javascript or server language code snippets. Beyond that, you can create behaviors and commands for javascript code and server behaviors for programming code, either packaging them as an MXP for portability or leave as behaviors for local use. Many users don't realize, but it's extendible out the wazoo. Nancy *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I think its very handy even though i hardcode most stuff. Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not. The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator. I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive. Sorry if thats off topic. James Jeffery wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
Hi James, It may also be worth looking at Microsoft's Visual Studio 2008 Web Designer Express Edition - it's completely free (It has nothing to do with the Expression series of tools). It has IDE Source Code Editors for (X)HTML, XML, CSS, and JavaScript, etc. You can also download the limited MSDN Library that accompanies it, also free of charge. There is no proprietary code injection, and you can set a markup specification for cursory validation as you write. http://www.microsoft.com/express/vwd/ Apologies if considered off-topic. Kind regards, Frank On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:19 PM, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Frank M. Palinkas *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I use Dreamweaver in code view. However, it makes it easy to convert a semantic marked-up word document into valid code, is easy to organize code, and I am used to the key commands. That probably describes dozens of editors for different people. If it comes with a package, you're in good shape. If not, you may want to consider cheaper options Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 1:48 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3 I think its very handy even though i hardcode most stuff. Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not. The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator. I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive. Sorry if thats off topic. James Jeffery wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
If you're using a mac then I must highly recommend TextMate (
http://macromates.com/) as the best text-editor I've ever used. It has full
syntax highlighting but it's real power comes with snippets, code blocks
you can program yourself. For example I can type if and press tab and it
will automatically change to if ($var) { } whilst pressing tab again
highlights to each variable or block allowing you to overwrite it. You can
write your own which makes it incredibly powerful and there are hundreds
built in for all sorts of different programming languages!
I've been using it for around a year and a half now and have never had any
problems - it's also very cheap in comparison to other editors. If you're
using Windows, then someone wrote a port of TextMate called E-Texteditor
which can be got from http://e-texteditor.com/ - again very good (not quite
as good as TextMate) and allows you to use the snippets and bundles from
TextMate which makes it good in a development environment with multiple
OS's.
Ben
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On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 1:11 PM, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I use Dreamweaver in code view. However, it makes it easy to convert a
semantic marked-up word document into valid code, is easy to organize
code,
and I am used to the key commands.
That probably describes dozens of editors for different people.
If it comes with a package, you're in good shape. If not, you may want to
consider cheaper options
Ted
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I think its very handy even though i hardcode most stuff.
Its good for organizing your work flow, with document tabs and what not.
The code is pretty clean these days and theres a good built in validator.
I think even object embedding (.flvs and what not) is pretty unobtrusive.
Sorry if thats off topic.
James Jeffery wrote:
I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and
Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use
BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might
aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good
for us developers?
This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because
back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out
your code and caused friction for many developers.
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Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:19 AM, James Jeffery wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. I used dreamweaver for a little bit until my development turned more towards programming in PHP, I didn't like how dreamweaver showed the PHP (If at all actually...) so now I use XCode which is part of the developer tools for Macs and is free. It has syntax highlighting for just about every kind of language out there and works great for me. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424-9337 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
I use dreamweaver for my (x)html coding. Even though I primarily do hand coding but like it to see what my visual looks like. When I get to PHP I switch to Crimson Editor. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Jason Pruim wrote: On Apr 4, 2008, at 7:19 AM, James Jeffery wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. I used dreamweaver for a little bit until my development turned more towards programming in PHP, I didn't like how dreamweaver showed the PHP (If at all actually...) so now I use XCode which is part of the developer tools for Macs and is free. It has syntax highlighting for just about every kind of language out there and works great for me. -- Jason Pruim Raoset Inc. Technology Manager MQC Specialist 3251 132nd ave Holland, MI, 49424-9337 www.raoset.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
James, why not take advantage of the free 30 trial of Dreamweaver? - Original Message - From: James Jeffery To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 12:19 PM Subject: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3 I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
Hi James. I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think it is absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone. Regards Fi On 4/4/08, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
One thing to realize is dreamweaver does often use non web standard rules for creating HTML. While it can help you create code it is not a substitution for knowing code. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 fiona herbert wrote: Hi James. I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think it is absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone. Regards Fi On 4/4/08, *James Jeffery* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Dreamweaver CS3
H james... If you want to code visually ..dreamweaver cs3 is a good option.It has a very good css editor also.I use both dreamweaver and microsoft visual studio for my coding and I feel both are good. but always check manually for web standards :-) I suggest you to download the trial versions and have a try on both products I am sure you are gonna love both .. regards navii On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:52 PM, Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing to realize is dreamweaver does often use non web standard rules for creating HTML. While it can help you create code it is not a substitution for knowing code. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultanthttp://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 fiona herbert wrote: Hi James. I am new to the developing world. I do have dreamweaver cs3 and think it is absolutely great and would recommend it to anyone. Regards Fi On 4/4/08, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been thinking about buying the new version of Photoshop and Illustrator, as i just purchased a new dual core iMac. Currently i use BBEdit but im thinking about switching to Dreamweaver as i might aswell purchase the creative suite. Is the new dreamweaver any good for us developers? This may not seem related to web standards but i feel it does because back when i used dreamweaver - it was the days when it bloated out your code and caused friction for many developers. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- navii - thanks and regards Naveen Bhaskar Menon *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
