Re: [WSG] Fwd: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Hi Marvin,
If you're linking to an external style sheet, you shouldn't have to edit
hundreds of pages to change the font size across the board - one edit of the
style sheet should affect all the pages which link to it.
I was concerned because I could not read your fonts when the font sizing was
set to normal on my browser (I'm using Firefox 2.0). I have normal sight and
I don't think I should have to increase the font size 3 or 4 times just to
make the font legible - this seems to be a usability issue as far as I'm
concerned. The problem only occurred in your navigation menus - the text in
the body of the pages was quite legible.
This might be a glitch with Firefox. I seem to remember having an issue with
lists on one of my sites, where the text of a list embedded inside another
list became smaller. This is not necessarily your problem (I don't know if
you are using nested lists), but I should check to see how the fonts appear
in IE.
Could you post the link to your site again?
Jason
On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
-- Forwarded message --
From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:00:51 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
To: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sorry, marvin, but you can't make everyone happy as to the font problem
without ruining your site for everyone else. Your friend should have
continued to increase the font size until he could read it, but don't let
people talk you into something that will mess your pages up. Everyone can
control the font sizes through their browsers and they also can set their
own computers to display larger fonts by setting the system font size much
larger.
Maybe you should provide instructions to others for how to increase the
fonts in their browsers so you don't need to edit hundreds of pages and
make
your page layouts look terrible.
Ron
---Original Message---
From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 6/1/2008 11:11:41 PM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Hi.
well, one guy on the wsg list, asking for feedback about my site,
said, that the fonts were really small, and as a part sighted person,
had to increase them 3 or 4 times, and he said still way too small.
the wsg list address to post is wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
and maybe subscribe and post there.
okay, will go and have a look at the images, zip file, i downloaded.
and okay, will put your changes in the style sheets, and the div tags
for the pages, will do that this weekend, and then edit the other
content.
sorry about that.
cheers marvin.
ps: so, do i use the pages, i downloaded them, for the star trek, or
just put all the episodes in season folders, go and find the season
folders, and then put the references to those links on the episode
page?
so i can then match off line, what is online?
is this right?
okay, will start to do that on the weekend.
cheers marvin.
On 6/2/08, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marvin:
You don't need to change your font sizes!!! Quit worrying about the font
sizes on your pages. They are fine! If any of your friends need a
larger
font size to view the pages, then tell them to use Ctrl + or Ctrl -
keyboard
keys. Those with a center mouse wheel have their own way to
increase/decrease a web page's font size without you having to edit
several
hundred pages to just please them. Plus, I told you, an increase in font
size for your page is going to really mess up your page layouts and you
will
have to GO BACK again and again to straighten them out. Please leave
well
enough alone and concentrate on getting your content put in and your
pages
functional online.
There is nothing wrong with the colors either. The pages match the Star
Trek themes.
You should have gotten all the images I could find in the zipped file you
downloaded.
Ron
---Original Message---
From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 6/1/2008 5:58:12 AM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Hi.
thanks for that.
will put that in, and hope that will cure my problems.
and in the star trek cafe folder, edit, all the pages there, then copy it
and override to Marvins Website.
will ask my other friends, about how to change, the font size, and the
colours.
thanks for that.
cheers Marvin.
ps: now, just waiting for the images,that is the last thing i am waiting
for
you to do, when you have time.
- Original Message -
From: Ron
To: Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
Subject: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Let me see if I can get you through this step by step...
On the styles.css file:
1) Where you have blockquote { margin: 5% 0 1% 16%; width: 67%;
text-align:
justify; font-weight: bold; }, replace this with div.block { width:
700px
margin: 5% auto; text-align: justify;
[WSG] Fwd: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
-- Forwarded message --
From: Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 00:00:51 -0500 (Central Daylight Time)
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
To: Marvin Hunkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm sorry, marvin, but you can't make everyone happy as to the font problem
without ruining your site for everyone else. Your friend should have
continued to increase the font size until he could read it, but don't let
people talk you into something that will mess your pages up. Everyone can
control the font sizes through their browsers and they also can set their
own computers to display larger fonts by setting the system font size much
larger.
Maybe you should provide instructions to others for how to increase the
fonts in their browsers so you don't need to edit hundreds of pages and make
your page layouts look terrible.
Ron
---Original Message---
From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 6/1/2008 11:11:41 PM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Hi.
well, one guy on the wsg list, asking for feedback about my site,
said, that the fonts were really small, and as a part sighted person,
had to increase them 3 or 4 times, and he said still way too small.
the wsg list address to post is wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
and maybe subscribe and post there.
okay, will go and have a look at the images, zip file, i downloaded.
and okay, will put your changes in the style sheets, and the div tags
for the pages, will do that this weekend, and then edit the other
content.
sorry about that.
cheers marvin.
ps: so, do i use the pages, i downloaded them, for the star trek, or
just put all the episodes in season folders, go and find the season
folders, and then put the references to those links on the episode
page?
so i can then match off line, what is online?
is this right?
okay, will start to do that on the weekend.
cheers marvin.
On 6/2/08, Ron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Marvin:
You don't need to change your font sizes!!! Quit worrying about the font
sizes on your pages. They are fine! If any of your friends need a larger
font size to view the pages, then tell them to use Ctrl + or Ctrl -
keyboard
keys. Those with a center mouse wheel have their own way to
increase/decrease a web page's font size without you having to edit
several
hundred pages to just please them. Plus, I told you, an increase in font
size for your page is going to really mess up your page layouts and you
will
have to GO BACK again and again to straighten them out. Please leave well
enough alone and concentrate on getting your content put in and your pages
functional online.
There is nothing wrong with the colors either. The pages match the Star
Trek themes.
You should have gotten all the images I could find in the zipped file you
downloaded.
Ron
---Original Message---
From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 6/1/2008 5:58:12 AM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Hi.
thanks for that.
will put that in, and hope that will cure my problems.
and in the star trek cafe folder, edit, all the pages there, then copy it
and override to Marvins Website.
will ask my other friends, about how to change, the font size, and the
colours.
thanks for that.
cheers Marvin.
ps: now, just waiting for the images,that is the last thing i am waiting
for
you to do, when you have time.
- Original Message -
From: Ron
To: Marvin Hunkin
Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 1:04 AM
Subject: Fix for Nav Links Centering and Blockquotes
Let me see if I can get you through this step by step...
On the styles.css file:
1) Where you have blockquote { margin: 5% 0 1% 16%; width: 67%;
text-align:
justify; font-weight: bold; }, replace this with div.block { width: 700px
margin: 5% auto; text-align: justify; font-weight: bold; }.
2) On EVERY PAGE where the block quote tags (blockquote and
/blockquote
are, replace them with:
blockquote with div class=block and blockquote with /div.
Your
page text content then goes in between this style within p/p tags to
validate.
On the navlinks.css file:
1) Where you have #menu { margin: 0 0 0 16%; }, replace this with #menu {
width: 700px; margin: 0 auto; } to center the top nav menu on all pages.
2) Under #menu { width: 700px; margin: 0 auto; } add #menu_other { width:
500px; margin: 0 auto; text-align: center; } to center the lower nav menu
with the other links.
3) On all pages where you have div class=menu style=width: 45%;
height:
1.1em; margin: 0 auto; text-align: center; for the other nav links,
replace with div class=menu_other. This is right after h2 style=
margin: 5% 0 1% 0;Other Topics on Star Trek Cafe's Site:/h2 on each
page.
These changes should center all the nav links on every page and cure
your
problem with Jaws over the blockquote tags.
---Original Message---
From: Marvin Hunkin
Date: 5/27/2008 7:28:07 PM
To: Ron
Subject: Re: Star Trek Cafe Site Files
Hi.
okay, so do i
