RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Thierry Koblentz
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

 

Personally, IF the address had a name associated with it, I would use a
definition list. 

 

However, there are some purists out there that can't see beyond using a dl
for anything other than defining a word.  But John Doe is a term and his
address, phone number, etc are describing him:

 

John Doe

123 Acacia Avenue

Suburb State Postal Code

Tel 888 9581 4077

Fax 888 9581 2835

 

Can be marked up as the following (including microformats)

 



John Doe

http://www.TJKDesign.com

 

 



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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ross Bruniges
I don't think David said anything against microformats.

The problems were with the use of the address element (which should only be 
used if it contains the contact details of the person who created a page) and 
the use of a definition list as an address for someone is not a definition of 
the person. I am not where I live that's for sure :>





From: Johan Douma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 11:02:11
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Well, what's wrong with microformats? It's really the way to go, and search 
engines like yahoo, technorati already use these formats. 


  

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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ollie
The address tag was never actually built for addresses (a common
misconception), and addresses are also not lists? I would highly recommend
marking it up with Microformats and using the built in classes to style this
as you need.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:33 AM, Darren Lovelock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Why not use the  tag and a definition list? I believe that also
> helps a little with localised SEO :)
>
> 
> John Doe
> 123 Acacia Avenue
> Suburb State Postal Code
> 
>
> 
> Tel:888 9581 4077
> Fax:888 9581 2835
> 
>
> Darren Lovelock
> Munky Online Web Design
> http://www.munkyonline.co.uk
> T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893
> 
>
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Ted Drake
> Sent: 28 October 2008 09:01
> To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
> Subject: RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses
>
>
>
> Personally, IF the address had a name associated with it, I would use a
> definition list.
>
>
>
> However, there are some purists out there that can't see beyond using a dl
> for anything other than defining a word.  But John Doe is a term and his
> address, phone number, etc are describing him:
>
>
>
> John Doe
>
> 123 Acacia Avenue
>
> Suburb State Postal Code
>
> Tel 888 9581 4077
>
> Fax 888 9581 2835
>
>
>
> Can be marked up as the following (including microformats)
>
>
>
> 
>
> John Doe
>
> 
>
>
> TIA
>
>
>
> Henrik
>
>
>
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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Johan Douma
Well, what's wrong with microformats? It's really the way to go, and search
engines like yahoo, technorati already use these formats.
There are already quite a lot of generators like this one:
http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator
No need to do any code, maybe is you want to change the structure a bit.

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2008/10/28 David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> Darren Lovelock wrote:
> > Why not use the  tag
> Because most addresses on webpages do not provide contact details for
> the author.
> >  and a definition list?
> Because addresses are not definitions of things.
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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread David Dorward
Darren Lovelock wrote:
> Why not use the  tag
Because most addresses on webpages do not provide contact details for
the author.
>  and a definition list? 
Because addresses are not definitions of things.

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RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Darren Lovelock
Why not use the  tag and a definition list? I believe that also
helps a little with localised SEO :)
 

John Doe
123 Acacia Avenue
Suburb State Postal Code



Tel:888 9581 4077
Fax:888 9581 2835


Darren Lovelock
Munky Online Web Design
http://www.munkyonline.co.uk
T: +44 (0)20-8816-8893


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Sent: 28 October 2008 09:01
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses



Personally, IF the address had a name associated with it, I would use a
definition list. 

 

However, there are some purists out there that can't see beyond using a dl
for anything other than defining a word.  But John Doe is a term and his
address, phone number, etc are describing him:

 

John Doe

123 Acacia Avenue

Suburb State Postal Code

Tel 888 9581 4077

Fax 888 9581 2835

 

Can be marked up as the following (including microformats)

 



John Doe

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RE: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ted Drake
Personally, IF the address had a name associated with it, I would use a
definition list. 

 

However, there are some purists out there that can't see beyond using a dl
for anything other than defining a word.  But John Doe is a term and his
address, phone number, etc are describing him:

 

John Doe

123 Acacia Avenue

Suburb State Postal Code

Tel 888 9581 4077

Fax 888 9581 2835

 

Can be marked up as the following (including microformats)

 



John Doe

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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ollie
Yep, as Ross said mark it up with Microformats

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Ross Bruniges
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> would have a look at - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard
>
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> *From:* Henrik Madsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> *Sent:* Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 8:23:07
> *Subject:* [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses
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>
> Can anyone guide me re. best practice for marking-up physical addresses
> that would appear like this:
>
> 123 Acacia Avenue
> Suburb State Postal Code
> Tel 888 9581 4077
> Fax 888 9581 2835
>
> Or is it acceptable to keep all in  and use 's
>
> TIA
>
> Henrik
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Re: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Ross Bruniges
would have a look at - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard





From: Henrik Madsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 28 October, 2008 8:23:07
Subject: [WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses



Can anyone guide me re. best practice for marking-up physical addresses that 
would appear like this:

123 Acacia Avenue
Suburb State Postal Code
Tel 888 9581 4077
Fax 888 9581 2835

Or is it acceptable to keep all in  and use 's

TIA

Henrik

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[WSG] Mark-up for physical/postal addresses

2008-10-28 Thread Henrik Madsen


Can anyone guide me re. best practice for marking-up physical  
addresses that would appear like this:


123 Acacia Avenue
Suburb State Postal Code
Tel 888 9581 4077
Fax 888 9581 2835

Or is it acceptable to keep all in  and use 's

TIA

Henrik



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