[WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Dave Rayner



I went to check 
out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using 
Firefox and it gave me this:

"The site you have tried to enter requires Internet 
Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 
2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to 
help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.Please try again."

Just when i was 
feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few 
really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting 
for.

I sent an email 
the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 
'em.


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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Unbelievable!


On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:

I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this:
 
The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
Please try again.
 
Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for.
 
I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em.
 
dave rayner
web
www.freshweb.com.au
m. 0409 037 250
p. +61 2 89202344
f. +61 2 89203008 


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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Stratford
I am sure if everyone on the list send HMV an email saying we wanted to 
buy some CDs and DVDs but couldnt get on their site...
A good 200 customers they missed out on will probably get them whipping 
their webdev team into shape...

I guess?
Dave Rayner wrote:
I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it 
gave me this:
 
The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or 
better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, 
Me or 98. Click Here 
javascript:window.open('http://sib1.od2.com/common/drdownload/doctor-detect.asp','drdownload', 
windowprops3);window.location.reload(); to use our Doctor Download 
application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email 
Dr Download mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED].
Please try again. 
http://sib1.od2.com/common/config.asp?shop=52associd=2problem=not_ie
 
Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see 
that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and 
the WSG is fighting for.
 
I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. 
That'll teach 'em.
 
dave rayner
*fresh**web
*www.freshweb.com.au
m. 0409 037 250
p. +61 2 89202344
f. +61 2 89203008

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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
actually, firing up IE and taking a look at the source, not quite as
unbelievable.  Enough stock dreamweaver and frontpage javascript in
there to choke a large horse.

~j



On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unbelievable!
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:
 
  I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it
  gave me this:
   
  The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or
  better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000,
  Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help
  you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
  Please try again.
   
  Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see
  that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and
  the WSG is fighting for.
   
  I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was.
  That'll teach 'em.
   
  dave rayner
  freshweb
  www.freshweb.com.au
  m. 0409 037 250
  p. +61 2 89202344
  f. +61 2 89203008
 
 
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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Matt
I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is
probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name
suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from
this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model,
this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force
potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will
impact the iPod / iTunes market.

PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just
stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but
this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos.

Matt


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Unbelievable!
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:
 
  I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it
  gave me this:
   
  The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or
  better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000,
  Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help
  you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
  Please try again.
   
  Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see
  that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and
  the WSG is fighting for.
   
  I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was.
  That'll teach 'em.
   
  dave rayner
  freshweb
  www.freshweb.com.au
  m. 0409 037 250
  p. +61 2 89202344
  f. +61 2 89203008
 
 
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RE: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Herrod, Lisa
I thought Firefox was the (or better)!


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I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me
this:

The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better)
with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click
Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your
configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
Please try again.

Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that.
It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is
fighting for.

I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll
teach 'em.

dave rayner
freshweb
www.freshweb.com.au
m. 0409 037 250
p. +61 2 89202344
f. +61 2 89203008 


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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Even worse, is that there is no way to view the site on the Mac.  Now they've wiped out 10% of computer users.  That's a good bit of the population.

Shane Helm


On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:

I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this:
 
The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
Please try again.
 
Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for.
 
I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em.
 
dave rayner
web
www.freshweb.com.au
m. 0409 037 250
p. +61 2 89202344
f. +61 2 89203008 


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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Shane Helm
Yep.  When has Microsoft showed any real concerns for Web Standards.
On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Matt wrote:
I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is
probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name
suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from
this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model,
this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force
potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will
impact the iPod / iTunes market.
PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just
stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but
this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos.
Matt
On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Unbelievable!

On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:
I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it
gave me this:
The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or
better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000,
Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help
you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
Please try again.
Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see
that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and
the WSG is fighting for.
I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was.
That'll teach 'em.
dave rayner
freshweb
www.freshweb.com.au
m. 0409 037 250
p. +61 2 89202344
f. +61 2 89203008
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Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers

2004-11-30 Thread Chris Dimmock
I think its important to actually note that it is a ninemsn content
partner - not ninemsn itself - whose site is causing the problem. Note
the redirection http://sib1.od2.com  Its a branded content partner
site.

Chris


On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:50:26 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep.  When has Microsoft showed any real concerns for Web Standards.
 
 
 
 
 On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Matt wrote:
 
  I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is
  probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name
  suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from
  this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model,
  this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force
  potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will
  impact the iPod / iTunes market.
 
  PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just
  stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but
  this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos.
 
  Matt
 
 
  On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unbelievable!
 
 
 
 
  On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote:
 
  I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it
  gave me this:
 
  The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or
  better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000,
  Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help
  you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.
  Please try again.
 
  Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see
  that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and
  the WSG is fighting for.
 
  I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was.
  That'll teach 'em.
 
  dave rayner
  freshweb
  www.freshweb.com.au
  m. 0409 037 250
  p. +61 2 89202344
  f. +61 2 89203008
 
 
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