[WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: "The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download.Please try again." Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshwebwww.freshweb.com.aum. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments.
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner web www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments.
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
I am sure if everyone on the list send HMV an email saying we wanted to buy some CDs and DVDs but couldnt get on their site... A good 200 customers they missed out on will probably get them whipping their webdev team into shape... I guess? Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here javascript:window.open('http://sib1.od2.com/common/drdownload/doctor-detect.asp','drdownload', windowprops3);window.location.reload(); to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]. Please try again. http://sib1.od2.com/common/config.asp?shop=52associd=2problem=not_ie Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner *fresh**web *www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
actually, firing up IE and taking a look at the source, not quite as unbelievable. Enough stock dreamweaver and frontpage javascript in there to choke a large horse. ~j On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. -- Jonathan T. Sage Theatrical Lighting / Set Designer Professional Web Design [HTTP://www.JTSage.com] [HTTP://design.JTSage.com] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model, this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will impact the iPod / iTunes market. PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos. Matt On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
I thought Firefox was the (or better)! Regards Lisa Herrod Usability Analyst 02 9467 5047 --- Access Testing Centre Sydney Melbourne 112 Alexander Street28 Drummond Street Crows Nest NSW 2065 Carlton South VIC 3053 P: 02 9467 5000 P: 03 9669 1700 F: 02 9467 5020 F: 03 9669 1799 www.testingcentre.com This e-mail is confidential, intended solely for the addressees, and may be legally privileged. If you're not the intended recipient, any access, copying, distribution, or action taken or omitted relying on it is prohibited and may be unlawful. -Original Message- From: Dave Rayner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
Even worse, is that there is no way to view the site on the Mac. Now they've wiped out 10% of computer users. That's a good bit of the population. Shane Helm On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner web www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments.
Re: [WSG] New music site barring non IE browsers
Yep. When has Microsoft showed any real concerns for Web Standards. On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Matt wrote: I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model, this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will impact the iPod / iTunes market. PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos. Matt On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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I think its important to actually note that it is a ninemsn content partner - not ninemsn itself - whose site is causing the problem. Note the redirection http://sib1.od2.com Its a branded content partner site. Chris On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:50:26 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep. When has Microsoft showed any real concerns for Web Standards. On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:35 PM, Matt wrote: I would guess the reason for this has been well planned, and is probably not to do with the website itself, - nineMSN is (as the name suggests) part of the Microsoft Network. The music you download from this site is in Windows Media format, and uses their licensing model, this is very big business for them, and they probably want to force potential buyers into using their proprietary format, which will impact the iPod / iTunes market. PS I am not anti Microsoft, so MS fans don't yell at me!... I am just stating why I think they have done this... business is business, but this goes against every grain of the web standards ethos. Matt On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 21:25:31 -0700, Shane Helm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unbelievable! On Nov 30, 2004, at 9:08 PM, Dave Rayner wrote: I went to check out http://hmv.ninemsn.com.au using Firefox and it gave me this: The site you have tried to enter requires Internet Explorer 6 (or better) with Windows Media Player 7 (or better) on Windows XP, 2000, Me or 98. Click Here to use our Doctor Download application to help you check your configuration alternatively Email Dr Download. Please try again. Just when i was feeling confident about the web's progression, i see that. It goes against a few really big things that web standards and the WSG is fighting for. I sent an email the 'doctor' just to show how disappointed i was. That'll teach 'em. dave rayner freshweb www.freshweb.com.au m. 0409 037 250 p. +61 2 89202344 f. +61 2 89203008 This message is confidential, and may contain proprietary or legally privileged information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete it immediately. Internet communications are not secure. You should scan this message and any attachments for viruses. Under no circumstances do we accept liability for any loss or damage which may result from your receipt of this message or any attachments. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **