Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-06 Thread Mordechai Peller
Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment "Use to force [of Web Standards]" Cute. This may yet become the new tag line of the WSG (If George doen't mind.)

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment - OT

2004-06-05 Thread Russ Weakley - Maxdesign
Apologies to all - I seem to have done some thread hijacking of my own! That off-topic post was made in a flippant mood on Saturday night. The site in question was taken down a year or two ago, so the games cannot be seen. However, the front page is still available on the wayback machine (may offe

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Kay Smoljak
Neerav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I can view it in Firefox 0.8 , heres the text for ppl who cant access it > for some reason > > http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=4149 Sorry, I meant the site the article talks about - webwank.net - I want to throw tampons at John Howard! -- Kay Smolj

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Kym Kovan
Hi Kay, >> http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=4149 > >Is the site no longer up? I can see it, and had a good giggle :-) -- Yours, Kym * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guid

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Neerav
I can view it in Firefox 0.8 , heres the text for ppl who cant access it for some reason http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=4149 Australian Government Sets Out To Ban Political Web Game January 23, 2001 "Government officials in Australia are threatening a lawsuit against WebWank.net for p

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Kay Smoljak
Russ Weakley - Maxdesign <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I played around with flash and and then Peter and I were threatened with > defamation in the Supreme Court of Queensland: > http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=4149 Is the site no longer up? -- Kay Smoljak http://www.newlookhair.com.au

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Russ Weakley - Maxdesign
I think can beat that! I played around with flash and and then Peter and I were threatened with defamation in the Supreme Court of Queensland: http://news.awn.com/index.php?newsitem_no=4149 But that was before we became responsible listparents :) Russ > I played around with flash - in a wk i

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Jeff Davies
Horses for courses - you build what will attract your client's audience - if the client requires a site for a niche audience with it's own characteristics (as long as these are known not just assumed) then a lot of the usual cliches about not losing part of the potential audience MAY not apply.

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Jeff Davies
Horses for courses - you build what will attract your client's audience - if the client requires a site for a niche audience with it's own characteristics (as long as these are known not just assumed) then a lot of the usual cliches about not losing part of the potential audience MAY not apply.

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Jeff Davies
Horses for courses - you build what will attract your client's audience - if the client requires a site for a niche audience with it's own characteristics (as long as these are known not just assumed) then a lot of the usual cliches about not losing part of the potential audience MAY not apply.

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Chris Stratford
Good points mike. I know what you mean, and that was my original idea with the website. although the websites I produced turned out to be - lets say - less than ideal for the audience. I know flash isn't totally inaccessible - but its not avaliable on mobiles, its not always avaliable on PC's.

RE: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-05 Thread Mike Pepper
Chris, look at it this way: they're all going to be tripping, anyway, so you're just doubling up on the psychedelic experience :o)   Don't do it. Go standards. My stepson's heading a D & B/Jungle unit so I've got to dip more than a toe into that environment very shortly. I didn't even consid

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Stratford
n M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment "Use to force [of Web Standards]" And if that doesn't work there's always good ol "eennie meenie miney mo" Standards-based sites can be flashy, personally I wouldn't mes

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Stratford
urday, June 05, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment Hey list, I have something which has been a major topic of discussion between a friend and I. I am currently working on a promotions website - promoting for Sydney Nightclubs (R&B Scene) T

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Stratford
That was my originaly thought... I am still contemplating what to do. I really want to make it look appealing - and yet still compliant. Good point that the graphics are still all the same - regardless of the code. Something I may have forgotten. Well you have some very good points which I ap

Re: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Title: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment Wooops the link in the other email is actually... http://www.taupowebdesigns.co.nz/   sorry :$   Camz www.t94xr.net.nz

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
> Don't get suckered into the myth that standards based web sites can't look as > good as old-school tag soup sites. That's what people who can't be bothered > learning something new use as an argument. Quite true but they dont have the interactivity as flash does. flash isnt good for hte main act

RE[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Sean M. Hall AKA Dante
Title: RE[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment The last part of my mail should've read "I was never good with animation"; sorry for the error (it's 11:30 PM here in San Francisco right now).

Re: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Title: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment I played around with flash - in a wk i made blue box move from one side to another :D!! - Original Message - From: Sean M. Hall AKA Dante To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2004 6:14 PM Subject

RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Sean M. Hall AKA Dante
Title: RE:[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment "Use to force [of Web Standards]" And if that doesn't work there's always good ol "eennie meenie miney mo" Standards-based sites can be flashy, personally I wouldn't mess around with that

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Kay Smoljak
Chris Stratford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > To knuckle down and get to the point - Do I use webstandards and > efficent coding to make the website... > Or do I use Flash, Verbose Table Layouts, Lots of Images & Animations > etc... To get people interested. Don't get suckered into the myth that s

Re: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
June 05, 2004 5:28 PM Subject: [WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment Hey list,I have something which has been a major topic of discussion between a friend and I.I am currently working on a promotions website - promoting for Sydney Nightclubs (R&B Scene)To knuckle d

[WSG] Standards Compliance -vs- User Enjoyment

2004-06-04 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey list, I have something which has been a major topic of discussion between a friend and I. I am currently working on a promotions website - promoting for Sydney Nightclubs (R&B Scene) To knuckle down and get to the point - Do I use webstandards and efficent coding to make the website... Or