Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread CK 

On Apr 30, 2007, at 5:23 PM, Chris Williams wrote:

I’m afraid I agree completely with Bill, on almost every point.   
See below:




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Subject: Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]



Sorry, but I still see a mess. Maybe worse than before as far as  
layout is concerned. Text size, depending on how you have it set on  
your monitor is all over the place. Columns aren't even (as a  
graphic designer this is a pet peeve). And you have words  
underlined that aren't links. Misleading at the very least.




>> Just try ctrl-+ or ctrl—a couple of times in your browser and  
see how badly the page behaves.  Columns overlap, spill out all  
over the place, ugh…



Tried a new technique for floating the , needs polish.



Spelling and punctuation is faulty too:

Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user  
experience for a web applications, in compliance with web standards


Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use  
the u here) is added to enhance user experience for Web  
aplications, in compliance with Web standards.




>> While I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt on behaviour,  
there are problems.  Like “Bushidodeep.com, Founded in 1996  
offers…” should be at least “Bushidodeep.com, founded in 1996,  
offers…”




>> But that leads to the more important point that you “offer Web  
Standards solutions emphasizing unique visual design” on a  
decidedly not that great a design…  certainly it doesn’t offer a  
“unique and stunning interface” as later proclaimed.


Minimal can be boring.




Personally, I think this is a wasted page. As I said before, if  
clients want to know about these things they can ask. If not you're  
just putting out useless and boring information.




>> This is the most important point.  This is like the “skills”  
section on a resume – that is, completely worthless.  It’s a  
laundry list of buzz words.  Do you go to a mechanic for your car  
because they have the latest “Hunter 9500 Spin Balancer” or “The  
Best Snap-On Tools”, or because they “carefully follow all OSHA  
regulations”?  No, you go there because they can service YOUR car,  
or perhaps they were recommended by your friend, or because they  
have testimonials from trustworthy sources.


Very interesting point



>> Show of hands – is there anyone on this list, or anyone working  
in web design, who DOESN’T work with all the listed programs?




>> You need to showcase your work.  Screen shots.  Links to  
customers.  Sample pages.  “Stunning Interfaces”.  Testimonials  
from happy customers.  What can you do for me?  Don’t bore me with  
how the sausage is made…


Will add to the next version...



And I still have a problem with the half ribbon. To me it looks  
like something is missing and it doesn't add to the look of the page.

The threading idea is cool..



>> Agree completely.  Would be different if there was another part  
of the ribbon at the top of the page, perhaps…




Finally, what in the world does meditaion have to do with Web design?

Will be omitted...



>> Again, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one (don’t  
know why, but…) but I’m trying to understand a “validation” drop  
down selector.  Huh?




Ironic...


Don't mean to be rude, just trying to play the devil's advocate  
here. If I see these things clients will. And if you confuse them  
they'll go find someone else.
Solid and appreciated, done in a rush, shows rushed results. A  
minimal design requires more development!  So long for now...






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Subject: [WSG] Template Review[Final]





http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php



Hi,



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RE: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread Chris Williams 
I'm afraid I agree completely with Bill, on almost every point.  See
below:

 

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On Behalf Of Open Vision
Subject: Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

 

Sorry, but I still see a mess. Maybe worse than before as far as layout
is concerned. Text size, depending on how you have it set on your
monitor is all over the place. Columns aren't even (as a graphic
designer this is a pet peeve). And you have words underlined that aren't
links. Misleading at the very least. 

 

>> Just try ctrl-+ or ctrl-a couple of times in your browser and see how
badly the page behaves.  Columns overlap, spill out all over the place,
ugh...

 

Spelling and punctuation is faulty too:

Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user experience
for a web applications, in compliance with web standards

Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use the u
here) is added to enhance user experience for Web aplications, in
compliance with Web standards.

 

>> While I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt on behaviour, there are
problems.  Like "Bushidodeep.com, Founded in 1996 offers..." should be
at least "Bushidodeep.com, founded in 1996, offers..." 

 

>> But that leads to the more important point that you "offer Web
Standards solutions emphasizing unique visual design" on a decidedly not
that great a design...  certainly it doesn't offer a "unique and
stunning interface" as later proclaimed.

  

Personally, I think this is a wasted page. As I said before, if clients
want to know about these things they can ask. If not you're just putting
out useless and boring information.

 

>> This is the most important point.  This is like the "skills" section
on a resume - that is, completely worthless.  It's a laundry list of
buzz words.  Do you go to a mechanic for your car because they have the
latest "Hunter 9500 Spin Balancer" or "The Best Snap-On Tools", or
because they "carefully follow all OSHA regulations"?  No, you go there
because they can service YOUR car, or perhaps they were recommended by
your friend, or because they have testimonials from trustworthy sources.

 

>> Show of hands - is there anyone on this list, or anyone working in
web design, who DOESN'T work with all the listed programs?

 

>> You need to showcase your work.  Screen shots.  Links to customers.
Sample pages.  "Stunning Interfaces".  Testimonials from happy
customers.  What can you do for me?  Don't bore me with how the sausage
is made...

 

And I still have a problem with the half ribbon. To me it looks like
something is missing and it doesn't add to the look of the page. 

 

>> Agree completely.  Would be different if there was another part of
the ribbon at the top of the page, perhaps...

 

Finally, what in the world does meditaion have to do with Web design? 

 

>> Again, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one (don't know
why, but...) but I'm trying to understand a "validation" drop down
selector.  Huh?

 

Don't mean to be rude, just trying to play the devil's advocate here. If
I see these things clients will. And if you confuse them they'll go find
someone else.

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http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php 

 

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Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread CK 

Hi,

Not offended, solid critique, must have a thick skin in this  
profession :) Send some screen captures please..



CK



On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Open Vision wrote:

Sorry, but I still see a mess. Maybe worse than before as far as  
layout is concerned. Text size, depending on how you have it set on  
your monitor is all over the place. Columns aren't even (as a  
graphic designer this is a pet peeve). And you have words  
underlined that aren't links. Misleading at the very least.


Spelling and punctuation is faulty too:
Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user  
experience for a web applications, in compliance with web standards
Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use  
the u here) is added to enhance user experience for Web  
aplications, in compliance with Web standards.



Personally, I think this is a wasted page. As I said before, if  
clients want to know about these things they can ask. If not you're  
just putting out useless and boring information.


And I still have a problem with the half ribbon. To me it looks  
like something is missing and it doesn't add to the look of the  
page. Finally, what in the world does meditaion have to do with Web  
design?


Don't mean to be rude, just trying to play the devil's advocate  
here. If I see these things clients will. And if you confuse them  
they'll go find someone else.

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From: CK
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:09 PM
Subject: [WSG] Template Review[Final]


http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php

Hi,

Please check this for an strange behavior in IE.

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Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread Paul Novitski 

At 4/30/2007 02:02 PM, Open Vision wrote:

Spelling and punctuation is faulty too:
Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user 
experience for a web applications, in compliance with web standards
Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use 
the u here) is added to enhance user experience for Web aplications, 
in compliance with Web standards.


I believe it's JavaScript:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=define%3Ajavascript

I didn't realize anyone capitalized "web" any more.  Is that like "E-mail"?

Devilishly,

Paul 




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Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread Open Vision 
Sorry, but I still see a mess. Maybe worse than before as far as layout is 
concerned. Text size, depending on how you have it set on your monitor is all 
over the place. Columns aren't even (as a graphic designer this is a pet 
peeve). And you have words underlined that aren't links. Misleading at the very 
least. 

Spelling and punctuation is faulty too:
Using javascript and AJAX behaviour is added to enhance user experience for a 
web applications, in compliance with web standards
Better written as; Javascript and AJAX behavior (oh, we don't use the u here) 
is added to enhance user experience for Web aplications, in compliance with Web 
standards.


Personally, I think this is a wasted page. As I said before, if clients want to 
know about these things they can ask. If not you're just putting out useless 
and boring information.

And I still have a problem with the half ribbon. To me it looks like something 
is missing and it doesn't add to the look of the page. Finally, what in the 
world does meditaion have to do with Web design? 

Don't mean to be rude, just trying to play the devil's advocate here. If I see 
these things clients will. And if you confuse them they'll go find someone else.
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  From: CK 
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 4:09 PM
  Subject: [WSG] Template Review[Final]




  http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php


  Hi,


  Please check this for an strange behavior in IE.


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Re: [WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread ~davidLaakso 

CK wrote:


http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php

Hi,

Please check this for an strange behavior in IE.

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Screen shot of the page in IE 7 and IE 6 in "accessibility" mode at 
text-size "largest."



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[WSG] Template Review[Final]

2007-04-30 Thread CK 


http://working.bushidodeep.com/dom_site/template_03.php

Hi,

Please check this for an strange behavior in IE.

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