As a thought, I wanted to point something out. No one cares about
standards or accessibility but us. Its our job to care.
As an example, we can view any of the URLs on this list, and see a
common thread - we all like to point out that we use standards and care
about accessibility.
I've
When I explain to clients why standards are important I bring up the
following list:
http://www.geminidevelopment.com.au/html/article_whycomplient.php
And explain it to them point by point.
Samuel
Joseph R. B. Taylor wrote:
As a thought, I wanted to point something out. No one cares
Richardson
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2005 10:09 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
When I explain to clients why standards are important I bring up the
following list:
http://www.geminidevelopment.com.au/html/article_whycomplient.php
And explain it to them
Hi
Everyone cares about accessibility, both consciously and/or subsconsciously.
I hate this website, I can't find anything on it. I'm going somewhere else - that's someone caring about accessibility.
Cheers
JamesOn 10/31/05, Joseph R. B. Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a thought, I wanted to
Hi Joe,
Our clients don't care as long as it works. They do care that we care enough
to make them the best, most accessible site we can, but they could care less
how.
It's more of an issue when a website is maintained by the client. If they're
not aware of the distinction between accessible
Samuel Richardson wrote:
When I explain to clients why standards are important I bring up the
following list:
http://www.geminidevelopment.com.au/html/article_whycomplient.php
And explain it to them point by point.
Of course if I was a client, I'd immediately question the compliance of
the
I don't think it must be neccessarily a common issue. Many agencies I
know here mostly don't even mention standards or the particular
technologies, they're just selling greatly usable, effective and
profitable web solutions to the clients and since they are professionals
and they care the
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Ellis
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2005
10:18 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on
our own sites
Hi
Everyone cares about accessibility, both consciously and/or subsconsciously.
I hate
I make a point of mentioning it in my scopes, if I'm asked about it then
I iterate the advantages of it but I don't feel the need to really push
the promotion of it.
Jan Brasna wrote:
I don't think it must be neccessarily a common issue. Many agencies I
know here mostly don't even mention
ve _javascript_ turned on? How do I even do that?"
R :o)
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From: James Ellis
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
HiEveryone cares about accessibility, both consciously
and/or sub
a bit of a selling point, if nothing
else.
R :o)
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From: Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
I don't think it must be neccessarily a common issue
CzeigerSent: Monday, 31 October 2005 11:30 AMTo:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own
sites
Actually James, I think this is
more a Usability concern rather than an Accessibility concern.
Whatyou might say instead is:
"I can't view the site on my
browser and
On 30/10/05, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually James, I think this is more a Usability concern rather than an
Accessibility concern.
What you might say instead is:
I can't view the site on my browser and even if I could, the text is samll
and I can't change it!
Or
Why
On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 19:20:09 -0600, T. R. Valentine wrote:
AFAIK, all browsers have JavaScript turned on by default. If a user
has turned it off, the user certainly ought to know how to undo his
previous action. (If a user has had a friend do it, the user ought to
be able to get the answers
Organisations can turn javascript off when installing/configuring then lock the
browser.
I've worked in places where this has happened...
Donna
On 30 Oct 2005 at 19:20, T. R. Valentine wrote:
AFAIK, all browsers have JavaScript turned on by default. If a user
has turned it off, the user
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
Organisations can turn javascript off when installing/configuring then
lock the browser.
I've worked in places where this has happened...
Donna
On 30 Oct 2005 at 19:20, T. R. Valentine wrote:
AFAIK, all
: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
Not necessarily - corporately, some IT departments will turn off
Javascript pre-emptively for non-trusted sites.
This does not mean that the user will be aware, or understand, this.
:(
warmly,
Lea
Hi Richard,
To play the devil's advocate...
Certainly humanist developers aim to remove the barriers that technology might
place between users and content. However, difficulty arises when determining
what constitutes 'technical' literacy. This could range from 'What's a link'
through to 'How
choices on our own sites
Hi Richard,
To play the devil's advocate...
Certainly humanist developers aim to remove the barriers that technology
might place between users and content. However, difficulty arises when
determining what constitutes 'technical' literacy. This could range from
Quoting Andy Kirkwood | Motive [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Certainly humanist developers aim to remove the barriers that technology
might place between users and content...
Humanism has nothing to do with this - what if you're a Buddhist developer?
Seriously, in a valid attempt to create a profession,
where is that damn unsubscribe button!
-Original Message-
From: Tim Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 31 October 2005 1:49 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Text choices on our own sites
Quoting Andy Kirkwood | Motive [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Certainly
Craig Rippon wrote:
where is that damn unsubscribe button!
URI: http://webstandardsgroup.org/
you'll need to log in with your email and pwd and click the unsubscribe link...
and shame on you for swearing. :-)
also, to the list moms, should there be a link directly to the unsubscribe section
On 10/31/05, Zulema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
also, to the list moms, should there be a link directly to the unsubscribe
section in the WSG email footer? it would probably need a log in form b/f
giving you the unsubscribe button of course. ;)
Most lists have an [EMAIL PROTECTED] address you
Richard Czeiger wrote:
Hope I'm making sense, here and I know it's a slippery slope, but hey ...
That's why they pay us the big bucks, right?
.. Right?
Anyone?
You make money at this???
What a concept!!
;-)
mark
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Hope I'm making sense, here and I know it's a slippery slope, but hey ...
That's why they pay us the big bucks, right?
.. Right?
Anyone?
You make money at this???
What a concept!!
;-)
That's true... I want in on these big bucks :-)
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