Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-08 Thread Secret Agent Gel
> In case anyone doesn't know, see:
> 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html
> for a good list of arrows/symbols.

thanks for this link. how well are these supported on any browser? i see
no notes about it.

thanks,

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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-08 Thread designer
In case anyone doesn't know, see:

http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-MathML/chap6/ISOAMSA2.html

for a good list of arrows/symbols.

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RE: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread Hill, Tim
I had a problem with using these, for some reason the line-height was
larger than the actual text, even at the same font size.
My case in example; I had a horizontal nav list, and I was using the
arrows for dropdown indicators, the heights got out of sync when I used
the unicode option so I had to resort to an image. 


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Subject: Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

Hi

I use ▼ and ▲ as solid up/down arrows, works in everything I
can lay my hands on apart from a Palm handheld which renders a [?]
character or similar.

I wrap them in a span and set their font-size to ~ 150% in CSS.

There are some unicode links on the WSG resource section.

Cheers
James 


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:56 +1100, Jason Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and 
> Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is

> generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I 
> have no idea what a screen reader would do.
> 
> Am I out of luck?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Jason Anderson
> http://www.thenewjhp.com
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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread James Ellis
Hi

I use ▼ and ▲ as solid up/down arrows, works in everything
I can lay my hands on apart from a Palm handheld which renders a [?]
character or similar.

I wrap them in a span and set their font-size to ~ 150% in CSS.

There are some unicode links on the WSG resource section.

Cheers
James 


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:56 +1100, Jason Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and
> Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is
> generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I
> have no idea what a screen reader would do.
> 
> Am I out of luck?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Jason Anderson
> http://www.thenewjhp.com
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RE: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread Rowen Atkinson
You could try the hex values, which seem to have better support:

↑ = ↑
↓ = ↓ 

Cheers
Rowen Atkinson

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Subject: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities


I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and
Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is
generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I have
no idea what a screen reader would do.

Am I out of luck?



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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread Michael Allan
Hi Jason,
If you do want to use an image rather than an entity, you can style it 
to display inline with a height & width of 1em (or something else to 
your preference). It scales just fine.

I haven't checked this across many browsers, but it should be widely 
supported.

Cheers,
Mike
On Monday, November 8, 2004, at 03:56  PM, Steve Winter wrote:
Jason,
I can't offer any suggestion, but I can advise that on XP SP 2, in both
FireFox 0.8 and IE 6.0 ↑ and ↓ both render fine, and seem to
scale okay too...
Cheers
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Jason Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:56 +1100
Subject: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities
Hi,
I'm setting up a table which will can be sorted by clicking on one of
the headers, and I'd like to display the sort order (ascending or
descending) by drawing a little arrow next to the column name.  I
thought about using an image, but of course it wouldn't scale with the
text.  Is there a good technique for drawing a text arrow in most
browsers, which degrades nicely if it can't be displayed?
I found a page which shows some HTML entity codes, including the
arrows, at
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/entities/symbols.html
I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and
Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is
generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I
have no idea what a screen reader would do.
Am I out of luck?
Thanks,
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Re: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread Steve Winter

Jason,

I can't offer any suggestion, but I can advise that on XP SP 2, in both
FireFox 0.8 and IE 6.0 ↑ and ↓ both render fine, and seem to
scale okay too...

Cheers
Steve

-Original Message-
From: Jason Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:56 +1100
Subject: [WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

> Hi,
> 
> I'm setting up a table which will can be sorted by clicking on one of
> the headers, and I'd like to display the sort order (ascending or
> descending) by drawing a little arrow next to the column name.  I
> thought about using an image, but of course it wouldn't scale with the
> text.  Is there a good technique for drawing a text arrow in most
> browsers, which degrades nicely if it can't be displayed?
> 
> I found a page which shows some HTML entity codes, including the
> arrows, at
> http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/entities/symbols.html
> 
> I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and
> Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is
> generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I
> have no idea what a screen reader would do.
> 
> Am I out of luck?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Jason Anderson
> http://www.thenewjhp.com
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[WSG] Up and down arrows using HTML entities

2004-11-07 Thread Jason Anderson
Hi,

I'm setting up a table which will can be sorted by clicking on one of
the headers, and I'd like to display the sort order (ascending or
descending) by drawing a little arrow next to the column name.  I
thought about using an image, but of course it wouldn't scale with the
text.  Is there a good technique for drawing a text arrow in most
browsers, which degrades nicely if it can't be displayed?

I found a page which shows some HTML entity codes, including the arrows, at
http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/html40/entities/symbols.html

I tried ↑ and ↓ and they work great in Safari 1.2.1 and
Firefox 0.9.1, but the page says browser support for those entities is
generally very poor.  I don't have a PC nearby to test with, and I
have no idea what a screen reader would do.

Am I out of luck?

Thanks,

-- 
Jason Anderson
http://www.thenewjhp.com
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