RE: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread raven
Hi. If a website client of yours hired you to manage an actual storefront and you arbitrarily slammed the door in the face of every 100th, 200th, or even 1000th customer, how long do you think would you keep your job? If some js feature bring me 100 costumers i can effort loose 1, which don't

Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread nedlud
Out of curiosity, what sort of feature are you talking about that can't be done server side (ie, *without* AJAX)? I'll confess to relying heavily on server side JS on some projects, but I did so because I knew those apps would be used exclusively on an intranet where the SOE was known to support

Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread Andrew Stewart
I think the point is if you should be spending time developing something with a bad user experience that hardly anyone will use. Yes you could implement a spreadsheet app with tons of page requests, but the user experience would be so bad that people probably wouldn't want to use it. On

Re: Re: [WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-15 Thread raven
Hi. Out of curiosity, what sort of feature are you talking about that can't be done server side (ie, *without* AJAX)? As a matter of fact, you right. Without AJAX (in any form) server side scripting remains intact and matter disappears. My front end development order: 1. XHTML coding of

[WSG] functionality without JavaScript [WAS: returning to scroll position in a table inside a fixed hight div]

2009-06-14 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/14/2009 11:28 AM, raven wrote: Keep in mind as always that a JavaScript solution will not work in user agents not running JavaScript, which can include search engines, mobile devices, assistive technology, browsers in certain corporate contexts in which JavaScript is globally turned off