Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-09 Thread Srecko Micic
Definitly .htaccess

2005/12/9, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 .htaccess maybe?

 On 12/9/05, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Not so. It depends on Apache and how it's configured.
 
  You can check how PHP is set up by creating a new PHP page and just inlcude
  the following:
 
  ?php phpinfo() ?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Stephen Stagg
  Sent: Friday, 9 December 2005 11:25 AM
  To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Subject: Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?
 
  In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however
 
My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it only
  handles files with .php extension?
 
  Stephen
 
  Linda Harms wrote:
   Stephen,
  
   Several options actually are available on the PHP side.
  
 -- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
 -- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.
  
  
   I have an example available if you're interested.
  
   Linda
   (breaking away from normal lurk mode)
   - Original Message -
   From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
   Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
   Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?
  
  
  
   One site that I'm currently coding
   (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
   uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.
  
   One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of
   each page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be
   randomly selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show
   the relevant company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however,
   want the user to be able to edit an xml file describing the
   attributes of the various sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I
   would define the FIR images in a linked x.css file but this is not
   scriptable.  How does the list suggest the tags should be styled in this
  case?
* Inline stylesheets?
* Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
* style= attribute?
  
   Any thoughts??
  
   Thanks
  
   Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Joshua Street
Just use ALT text? Isn't that accessible enough? Or am I not
understanding what you're trying to do...

Josh

p.s. Cool flowed-frame text!

On 12/9/05, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One site that I'm currently coding (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
 uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

 One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of each
 page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
 selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
 company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
 to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
 sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images in
 a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
 suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
  * Inline stylesheets?
  * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
  * style= attribute?

 Any thoughts??

 Thanks

 Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Stephen Stagg
Thx :)  Semantically, I thought it better to have like: 
   a href=http://www.xyzcorp.com; ... class=sponsor xyzcorpXYZCorp/a
and then stylistically 'overload' this with a nice GIF.  Perhaps not? I 
don't know.



Joshua Street wrote:

Just use ALT text? Isn't that accessible enough? Or am I not
understanding what you're trying to do...

Josh

p.s. Cool flowed-frame text!

On 12/9/05, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

One site that I'm currently coding (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of each
page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images in
a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
 * Inline stylesheets?
 * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
 * style= attribute?

Any thoughts??

Thanks

Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Joshua Street
Well, the markup is a bit lighter, but img doesn't really carry any
semantic baggage, so if you just use appropriate alt text that's a
perfectly acceptable (and probably the simplest, from your
perspective) way to do things, IMHO of course.

On 12/9/05, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thx :)  Semantically, I thought it better to have like:
 a href=http://www.xyzcorp.com; ... class=sponsor xyzcorpXYZCorp/a
 and then stylistically 'overload' this with a nice GIF.  Perhaps not? I
 don't know.


 Joshua Street wrote:
  Just use ALT text? Isn't that accessible enough? Or am I not
  understanding what you're trying to do...
 
  Josh
 
  p.s. Cool flowed-frame text!
 
  On 12/9/05, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  One site that I'm currently coding (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
  uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.
 
  One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of each
  page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
  selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
  company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
  to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
  sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images in
  a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
  suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
   * Inline stylesheets?
   * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
   * style= attribute?
 
  Any thoughts??
 
  Thanks
 
  Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Linda Harms
Stephen,

Several options actually are available on the PHP side.

  -- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
  -- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.


I have an example available if you're interested.

Linda
(breaking away from normal lurk mode)
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?


 One site that I'm currently coding (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
 uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

 One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of each
 page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
 selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
 company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
 to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
 sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images in
 a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
 suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
  * Inline stylesheets?
  * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
  * style= attribute?

 Any thoughts??

 Thanks

 Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Stephen Stagg

In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however

 My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it only 
handles files with .php extension?


Stephen

Linda Harms wrote:

Stephen,

Several options actually are available on the PHP side.

  -- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
  -- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.


I have an example available if you're interested.

Linda
(breaking away from normal lurk mode)
- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?


  

One site that I'm currently coding (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of each
page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images in
a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
 * Inline stylesheets?
 * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
 * style= attribute?

Any thoughts??

Thanks

Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Samuel Richardson
I think you can configure Apache to parse whatever file extensions you 
like as PHP, in other words you configure it with the hosting 
application, the CGI module should not care what it's receiving.


Stephen Stagg wrote:


In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however

 My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it 
only handles files with .php extension?


Stephen

Linda Harms wrote:


Stephen,

Several options actually are available on the PHP side.

  -- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
  -- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.


I have an example available if you're interested.

Linda
(breaking away from normal lurk mode)
- Original Message - From: Stephen Stagg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?


 

One site that I'm currently coding 
(http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)

uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of 
each

page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR 
images in

a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
 * Inline stylesheets?
 * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
 * style= attribute?

Any thoughts??

Thanks

Stephen
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RE: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Paul Noone
Not so. It depends on Apache and how it's configured.

You can check how PHP is set up by creating a new PHP page and just inlcude
the following:

?php phpinfo() ?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Stephen Stagg
Sent: Friday, 9 December 2005 11:25 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however

  My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it only
handles files with .php extension?

Stephen

Linda Harms wrote:
 Stephen,

 Several options actually are available on the PHP side.

   -- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
   -- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.


 I have an example available if you're interested.

 Linda
 (breaking away from normal lurk mode)
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
 Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?


   
 One site that I'm currently coding 
 (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
 uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.

 One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of 
 each page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be 
 randomly selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show 
 the relevant company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, 
 want the user to be able to edit an xml file describing the 
 attributes of the various sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I 
 would define the FIR images in a linked x.css file but this is not 
 scriptable.  How does the list suggest the tags should be styled in this
case?
  * Inline stylesheets?
  * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
  * style= attribute?

 Any thoughts??

 Thanks

 Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What? -

2005-12-08 Thread Linda Harms
should be fine.  I end with .php as my editor is much friendlier with that.

See: www.dartmouthdigital.com/phpclass/week3.php.
This class project was to deliver different content based on browsers, so
you'll get one of 6 themes.  In each of the themes, the banner is selected
randomly - via css background images in a separate random image css file.

for your variant, if not using a DB, and without getting too tricky (because
I'm really new to php!):

build an array with the link and text, (from a text /xml file or php include
files that you've taught your users to do)
name the images by number - matching the array position.
 -- or two arrays with a better file name -- or someone teach me how
to do more than two dimensions in a php array.  )
select two random numbers - make sure they're not the same.
create the css plugging in the correct file name,
create the html code plugging in the correct text and link name

Code page is linked from the demo.

Linda

- Original Message - 
From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?


 In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however

   My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it only
 handles files with .php extension?

 Stephen

 Linda Harms wrote:
  Stephen,
 
  Several options actually are available on the PHP side.
 
-- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
-- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.
 
 
  I have an example available if you're interested.
 
  Linda
  (breaking away from normal lurk mode)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
  Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?
 
 
 
  One site that I'm currently coding
(http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
  uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.
 
  One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of
each
  page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be randomly
  selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show the relevant
  company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however, want the user
  to be able to edit an xml file describing the attributes of the various
  sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I would define the FIR images
in
  a linked x.css file but this is not scriptable.  How does the list
  suggest the tags should be styled in this case?
   * Inline stylesheets?
   * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
   * style= attribute?
 
  Any thoughts??
 
  Thanks
 
  Stephen
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Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

2005-12-08 Thread Joshua Street
.htaccess maybe?

On 12/9/05, Paul Noone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not so. It depends on Apache and how it's configured.

 You can check how PHP is set up by creating a new PHP page and just inlcude
 the following:

 ?php phpinfo() ?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Stephen Stagg
 Sent: Friday, 9 December 2005 11:25 AM
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?

 In fact, I chickened out and used the IMG tag solution.  however

   My web host uses PHP as a CGI module, I think, therefore, that it only
 handles files with .php extension?

 Stephen

 Linda Harms wrote:
  Stephen,
 
  Several options actually are available on the PHP side.
 
-- you CAN script the CSS to select the appropriate background image.
-- multiple css files, use php to call the appropriate one.
 
 
  I have an example available if you're interested.
 
  Linda
  (breaking away from normal lurk mode)
  - Original Message -
  From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: WSG wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
  Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 4:12 PM
  Subject: [WSG] Dynamic Styles - Inline? What?
 
 
 
  One site that I'm currently coding
  (http://www.minimology.co.uk/everest)
  uses some simple PHP to manage a few dynamic elements on the pages.
 
  One of these elements (will be | is) 2 Sponsors logos at the top of
  each page which will go into the template.  I want the links to be
  randomly selected from a list and to use an FIR derivation to show
  the relevant company logos in an accessible manner.  I also, however,
  want the user to be able to edit an xml file describing the
  attributes of the various sponsors and to add new ones.  Normally I
  would define the FIR images in a linked x.css file but this is not
  scriptable.  How does the list suggest the tags should be styled in this
 case?
   * Inline stylesheets?
   * Linked .php with content-type of text/css?
   * style= attribute?
 
  Any thoughts??
 
  Thanks
 
  Stephen
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