RE: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-26 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> Also, if I understand correctly, this will break in IE? Actually the original question was whether the element (which is defined as EMPTY in the DTD) requires a closing tag. It was not whether an empty element like a with no content could be written as a simple tag. According to the XML spec.

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-26 Thread Dusan Smolnikar
Never thought of that really, thanks! So Basically what you have to do is tell your web server to set file headers to return content type as xml? Also, if I understand correctly, this will break in IE? On Nov 26, 2007 8:37 AM, Jens Brueckmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your demo shows very w

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-26 Thread Michael MD
When the document's media type is changed, you will see the expected results, i.e. your document is rendered as application/xhtml+xml: http://www.lairx.de/071126/tags.xhtml doesn't look like IE7 recognises application/xhtml+xml it asks if I want to download it!

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Jens Brueckmann
Hi Dusan, > It won't work in any other browser I know of as well. See this demo > case: > http://dusan.fora.si/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/tags.html Your demo shows very well why serving XHTML as text/html is harmful. When the document's media type is changed, you will see the expected resul

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Dusan Smolnikar
It won't work in any other browser I know of as well. See this demo case: http://dusan.fora.si/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/tags.html (explained at http://dusan.fora.si/blog/self-closing-tags ) Of course I don't suggest using an empty div tag with no id. It was just an example. But, semant

RE: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> I'm afraid browser don't agree with this, though. I'm not sure about > input but I'm > positive that is not the same as as far as browser > rendering goes. Hi Dusan, I was going by my knowledge of XML. According to the XHTML spec. both forms are equivalent: http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
Philippe Wittenbergh wrote: Depending on the mime type there is a huge difference. text/html --> sgml parser in use application/xhtml+xml --> xml parser is in use. Just to clear up this misconception text/html doesn't use an SGML parser (few, or possibly zero browsers have implemented SGML par

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Nov 26, 2007, at 8:00 AM, Dusan Smolnikar wrote: I'm afraid browser don't agree with this, though. I'm not sure about input but I'm positive that is not the same as as far as browser rendering goes. Actually as far as XML (and consequently XHTML) is concerned: Is the same as:

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Jason Grant
Hi Dusan, Here are some of the unofficial guidelines I work with: will not work with IE in certain circumstances. It might give you some errors which you might find mind-bogglingly difficult to debug (i.e. very weird behaviour). will behave much better, but (unless you have an ID or a class on

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-25 Thread Dusan Smolnikar
I'm afraid browser don't agree with this, though. I'm not sure about input but I'm positive that is not the same as as far as browser rendering goes. On Nov21, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Kepler Gelotte wrote: Actually as far as XML (and consequently XHTML) is concerned: Is the same as: *

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-23 Thread David Hucklesby
> On 21 Nov 2007, at 05:12, David Hucklesby wrote: > >> Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the >> W3C >> specifications. Their question was "does the input tag require a closing >> "". >> I told them categorically "no" but was embarrassed to see this in the W

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-23 Thread David Hucklesby
> On 21 Nov 2007, at 05:12, David Hucklesby wrote: > >> Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the >> W3C >> specifications. Their question was "does the input tag require a closing >> "". >> I told them categorically "no" but was embarrassed to see this in the W

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-23 Thread David Dorward
On 21 Nov 2007, at 05:12, David Hucklesby wrote: Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they look up the W3C specifications. Their question was "does the input tag require a closing "". I told them categorically "no" but was embarrassed to see this in the W3C specs[1]:

RE: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-20 Thread Kepler Gelotte
> there's no closing tag > is XHTML > is HTML Actually as far as XML (and consequently XHTML) is concerned: Is the same as: It's just that can't contain anything between the start and end tags. Both are valid though. Regards, Kepler **

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-20 Thread Chris Knowles
David Hucklesby wrote: > Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they > look up the W3C specifications. Their question was "does the input > tag require a closing "". I told them categorically "no" but > was embarrassed to see this in the W3C specs[1]: > > > > Now, I read th

Re: [WSG] Input tag - closing tag optional?

2007-11-20 Thread Adam Martin
This is the reason why i made the move to XHTML - it is much more structured in my opinion. And these sort of issues don't arise. Adam. On Nov 21, 2007 3:12 PM, David Hucklesby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to help a friend with their form markup, I suggested they > look up the W3C specific