Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-19 Thread Jad Madi
Hi, i've placed a small disclaimer on my site stateing why im "NON-IE" Web Standards Friendly site. would be better On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 01:01:34 +1000, Chris Stratford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I make my site, I just make sure it works everywhere. > Then use some FireFox/Mozilla Border

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-19 Thread Chris Stratford
When I make my site, I just make sure it works everywhere. Then use some FireFox/Mozilla Border Radius code... Just to make IE users a little jealous. And hopefully turn a few over to FF eg: www.gamerdb.net My most recent project. Not entirly complete... Actually only about 50% done. But 90% of the

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-19 Thread Blair Millen
Mark, I have a similar outlook with my own personal blog, but if you are able to look at your visitors stats like myself then you may find that over half your readership is using IE. I'd personally try to make your site accessible to everyone you can, even if it means making a little extra eff

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Chris Blown wrote: Did I mention I hate analogies. ;) as in your expansion of the analogy you're blaming *users* of IE, rather than the developers that purely cater for IE and/or the programmers at MS who made the leaky car, i'd say it's not too accurate anyway ;) Patrick H. Lauke _

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Chris Blown
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 22:14, Dean Jackson wrote: > .. > Would you intentionally build a car park that stopped Toyotas from > entering? > If there was a lot of Toyotas parking in my building and being that they all leaked oil in my car park and often their drivers scratched other peoples cars beca

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Harwood
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 09:35 , Christie Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >"Why is this site best viewed with FireFox? Try it and experience the >difference." I do like this approach, and even tho i do link to Browserhappy.com and spreadfirefox i think the NON-IE bit should be reworked to promote th

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Christie Mason
Instead of going negative, how about going positive? Most people don't know that they have a choice of browsers and they're scared that if they install a different one, that the computer will "break". To "help" people understand that the browser world is wider than IE, I put this linked notice on

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread James Ellis
Mark There are quite a few articles now in the mainstream media that expose the Skoda like qualities of IE, maybe you should link to these? Sydney Morning Herald ICON section quite regularly rates Opera and Moz as the best available. PC User Australia had a big article "Why you shouldn't use IE

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread XStandard
One of the pillars of Web Standards is that "content" should be "Best Viewed With Any Browser". This principle is fundamental to Web Standards. We actually adhere to this principle when we use the CSS "import" directive to hide CSS from Netscape 4 so that it's poor support for CSS is not going t

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Harwood
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:58 , john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >Doesn't ditching IE run contrary to the whole idea of accessibility and >using Web standards? It does, but im not really ditching IE im more just refusing to add the fix's for th PNG-LOGO and sorting the margin/padding issuse with the

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Dean Jackson
On 18 Oct 2004, at 21:10, Mark Harwood wrote: Not commercialy, but personaly on your own blog sites are other little community sites? I've just redesigned my blog (www.phunky.co.uk) and in doing so i decided i was not going to touch some of the minor issuse that IE has with my site, although it

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Matt Andrews
well, IE is the bane of my life, and i wish everybody would just see the light and switch to Firefox :) but, when it comes down to it, the Web is about communication. commercial or personal, if your site falls apart for of your audience, you're not communicating very well. and the ability to cr

Re: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread john
Doesn't ditching IE run contrary to the whole idea of accessibility and using Web standards? The point isn't to get people to switch from IE, but rather, to design in a way that will reach the broadest audience for years to come. ~john _ Dr. Zeus Web Development http://

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Mark Harwood
I did say not commercialy, but on my personal site... Altho my worries is that it could effect my commercial work :S On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 12:29 , Mike Pepper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: >>I just wanna know your view on ditching IE on purpose? > >Commercial suicide :o) > >Mike Pepper >Accessible Web

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
I think it is a very dangerous decision to make! IE is still by far the most common browser and you might be right that clients could get a bit nervous when they see you are anti-IE. It took me such a long time to ditch NN 4, but now that I have done it it just feels great! Dropping IE will take a

RE: [WSG] should you refuse to support IE?

2004-10-18 Thread Mike Pepper
>I just wanna know your view on ditching IE on purpose? Commercial suicide :o) Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer () www.seowebsitepromotion.com GAWDS Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Harwood Sent