RE: [WSG] staff page vallidation
How would the list implement "standards development and implementation
through education and outreach"
if not by educating coders in developing standardized coding practices via
outreach through the list?
If not the above, then what form would the "education and outreach" that you
were looking take?
Rick
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Beer
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:34 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
Hi list
Actually, accessibility aside - Marvin looks as if he is a CIT student doing
an assignment ... and while I'm all for helping a guy out with an
accessibility issue, doing someone's homework for them is a little different
when they have an entire learning facility and faculty available to help
them. That said - Marvin - this list is a great place to lurk and learn.
*smile*
>From reading his validation output, I must say I'm a little concerned that
CIT is pushing XHTML 1.0 transitional in a 2010 Certificate IV course...
*frown*
Prehaps the list can advise me though - I joined thinking it would be a
group focused on standards development and implementation through education
and outreach. However, all of the posts to the list since I've joined have
just been "please help me, my code doesn't work". Do I have the wrong idea
about the list? (Don't get me wrong - I'm staying subscribed - quite happy
to help people in that sense *smile*)
Cheers
Chris
http://www.twitter.com/zBeer
Rick Faircloth wrote:
He's not spamming, Krystian...he's blind and having trouble with the updated
validation site he's used to using. Apparently, it's been changed and
doesn't work
well for the blind anymore.
And I'm sure his replies to responses from this list are slower than for
those who can see,
so chances are, his replies lag behind many responses, making it seem as if
he's ignoring
assistance.
I won't sit in judgment of a blind person because his participation in the
"we-are-here
to-help-development-standards-to-make-websites-easier-to-use-for-blind-peopl
e" list
isn't up to "standards"...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Krystian Szastok
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:21 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
What the hell?
Can someone stop this guy from spamming??
I opened my emails today and I had almost the whole first page of
Google spammed by emails from the group, most of them by this one guy,
please do something about this.
Thanks,
Krystian
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Marvin Hunkin
<mailto:startrekc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
hi.
can you help me out.
sorry for this.
marvin.
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iso-8859-14 (Latin 8, Celtic) iso-8859-15 (Latin 9) iso-8859-16 (Latin 10)
us-ascii (basic English) euc-jp (Japanese, Unix) shift_jis (Japanese,
Win/Mac) iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email) euc-kr (Korean) gb2312 (Chinese,
simplified) gb18030 (Chinese, simplified) big5 (Chinese, traditional)
Big5-HKSCS (Chinese, Hong Kong) tis-620 (Thai) koi8-r (Russian) koi8-u
(Ukrainian) iso-ir-111 (Cyrillic KOI-8) macintosh (MacRoman) windows-1250
(Central Europe) windows-1251 (Cyrillic) windows-1252 (Western Europe)
windows-1253 (Greek) windows-1254 (Turkish) windows-1255 (Hebrew)
windows-1256 (Arabic) windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)
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(experimental)
XHTML 1.0 Strict XHTML 1.0 Transitional XHTML 1.0 Frameset HTML 4.01
Strict
HTML 4.01 Transitional HTML 4.01 Frameset HTML 3.2 HTML 2.0 ISO/IEC
15445:2000 ("ISO HTML") XHTML 1.1 XHTML + RDFa XHTML Basic 1.0 XHTML Basic
1.1 XHTML Mobile Profile 1.2 XHTML-Print 1.0 XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0
XHTML
1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1 MathML 2.0 SVG 1.0 SVG 1.1 SVG 1.1 Tiny
SVG
1.1 Basic SMIL 1.0 SMIL 2.0
Root Element: html
Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
Hi list
Actually, accessibility aside - Marvin looks as if he is a CIT student
doing an assignment ... and while I'm all for helping a guy out with an
accessibility issue, doing someone's homework for them is a little
different when they have an entire learning facility and faculty
available to help them. That said - Marvin - this list is a great place
to lurk and learn. *smile*
From reading his validation output, I must say I'm a little concerned
that CIT is pushing XHTML 1.0 transitional in a 2010 Certificate IV
course... *frown*
Prehaps the list can advise me though - I joined thinking it would be a
group focused on standards development and implementation through
education and outreach. However, all of the posts to the list since I've
joined have just been "please help me, my code doesn't work". Do I have
the wrong idea about the list? (Don't get me wrong - I'm staying
subscribed - quite happy to help people in that sense *smile*)
Cheers
Chris
http://www.twitter.com/zBeer
Rick Faircloth wrote:
He's not spamming, Krystian...he's blind and having trouble with the updated
validation site he's used to using. Apparently, it's been changed and
doesn't work
well for the blind anymore.
And I'm sure his replies to responses from this list are slower than for
those who can see,
so chances are, his replies lag behind many responses, making it seem as if
he's ignoring
assistance.
I won't sit in judgment of a blind person because his participation in the
"we-are-here
to-help-development-standards-to-make-websites-easier-to-use-for-blind-peopl
e" list
isn't up to "standards"...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Krystian Szastok
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:21 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
What the hell?
Can someone stop this guy from spamming??
I opened my emails today and I had almost the whole first page of
Google spammed by emails from the group, most of them by this one guy,
please do something about this.
Thanks,
Krystian
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Marvin Hunkin
wrote:
hi.
can you help me out.
sorry for this.
marvin.
Markup Validation Service
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Result: 2 Errors
File:
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file
C:\Docs\Tafe\CertificateFourWebsites\CertFour\PrinciplesOfVisualDesign\Princ
iplesOfVisualDesign\html\staff.html
Encoding: iso-8859-1 (detect automatically) utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)
utf-16 (Unicode, worldwide) iso-8859-1 (Western Europe) iso-8859-2
(Central
Europe) iso-8859-3 (Southern Europe) iso-8859-4 (North European)
iso-8859-5
(Cyrillic) iso-8859-6-i (Arabic) iso-8859-7 (Greek) iso-8859-8 (Hebrew,
visual) iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew, logical) iso-8859-9 (Turkish) iso-8859-10
(Latin 6) iso-8859-11 (Latin/Thai) iso-8859-13 (Latin 7, Baltic Rim)
iso-8859-14 (Latin 8, Celtic) iso-8859-15 (Latin 9) iso-8859-16 (Latin 10)
us-ascii (basic English) euc-jp (Japanese, Unix) shift_jis (Japanese,
Win/Mac) iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email) euc-kr (Korean) gb2312 (Chinese,
simplified) gb18030 (Chinese, simplified) big5 (Chinese, traditional)
Big5-HKSCS (Chinese, Hong Kong) tis-620 (Thai) koi8-r (Russian) koi8-u
(Ukrainian) iso-ir-111 (Cyrillic KOI-8) macintosh (MacRoman) windows-1250
(Central Europe) windows-1251 (Cyrillic) windows-1252 (Western Europe)
windows-1253 (Greek) windows-1254 (Turkish) windows-1255 (Hebrew)
windows-1256 (Arabic) windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)
Doctype: XHTML 1.0 Transitional (detect automatically) HTML5
(experimental)
XHTML 1.0 Strict XHTML 1.0 Transitional XHTML 1.0 Frameset HTML 4.01
Strict
HTML 4.01 Transitional HTML 4.01 Frameset HTML 3.2 HTML 2.0 ISO/IEC
15445:2000 ("ISO HTML") XHTML 1.1 XHTML + RDFa XHTML Basic 1.0 XHTML Basic
1.1 XHTML Mobile Profile 1.2 XHTML-Print 1.0 XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0
XHTML
1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1 MathML 2.0 SVG 1.0 SVG 1.1 SVG 1.1 Tiny
SVG
1.1 Basic SMIL 1.0 SMIL 2.0
Root Element: html
Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
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RE: [WSG] staff page vallidation
He's not spamming, Krystian...he's blind and having trouble with the updated
validation site he's used to using. Apparently, it's been changed and
doesn't work
well for the blind anymore.
And I'm sure his replies to responses from this list are slower than for
those who can see,
so chances are, his replies lag behind many responses, making it seem as if
he's ignoring
assistance.
I won't sit in judgment of a blind person because his participation in the
"we-are-here
to-help-development-standards-to-make-websites-easier-to-use-for-blind-peopl
e" list
isn't up to "standards"...
Rick
-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Krystian Szastok
Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:21 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
What the hell?
Can someone stop this guy from spamming??
I opened my emails today and I had almost the whole first page of
Google spammed by emails from the group, most of them by this one guy,
please do something about this.
Thanks,
Krystian
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Marvin Hunkin
wrote:
> hi.
> can you help me out.
> sorry for this.
> marvin.
>
> Markup Validation Service
> Check the markup (HTML, XHTML, .) of Web documents
>
> Jump To:Validation Output
> Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
> Result: 2 Errors
> File:
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> file
>
C:\Docs\Tafe\CertificateFourWebsites\CertFour\PrinciplesOfVisualDesign\Princ
iplesOfVisualDesign\html\staff.html
>
> Encoding: iso-8859-1 (detect automatically) utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)
> utf-16 (Unicode, worldwide) iso-8859-1 (Western Europe) iso-8859-2
(Central
> Europe) iso-8859-3 (Southern Europe) iso-8859-4 (North European)
iso-8859-5
> (Cyrillic) iso-8859-6-i (Arabic) iso-8859-7 (Greek) iso-8859-8 (Hebrew,
> visual) iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew, logical) iso-8859-9 (Turkish) iso-8859-10
> (Latin 6) iso-8859-11 (Latin/Thai) iso-8859-13 (Latin 7, Baltic Rim)
> iso-8859-14 (Latin 8, Celtic) iso-8859-15 (Latin 9) iso-8859-16 (Latin 10)
> us-ascii (basic English) euc-jp (Japanese, Unix) shift_jis (Japanese,
> Win/Mac) iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email) euc-kr (Korean) gb2312 (Chinese,
> simplified) gb18030 (Chinese, simplified) big5 (Chinese, traditional)
> Big5-HKSCS (Chinese, Hong Kong) tis-620 (Thai) koi8-r (Russian) koi8-u
> (Ukrainian) iso-ir-111 (Cyrillic KOI-8) macintosh (MacRoman) windows-1250
> (Central Europe) windows-1251 (Cyrillic) windows-1252 (Western Europe)
> windows-1253 (Greek) windows-1254 (Turkish) windows-1255 (Hebrew)
> windows-1256 (Arabic) windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)
> Doctype: XHTML 1.0 Transitional (detect automatically) HTML5
(experimental)
> XHTML 1.0 Strict XHTML 1.0 Transitional XHTML 1.0 Frameset HTML 4.01
Strict
> HTML 4.01 Transitional HTML 4.01 Frameset HTML 3.2 HTML 2.0 ISO/IEC
> 15445:2000 ("ISO HTML") XHTML 1.1 XHTML + RDFa XHTML Basic 1.0 XHTML Basic
> 1.1 XHTML Mobile Profile 1.2 XHTML-Print 1.0 XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0
XHTML
> 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1 MathML 2.0 SVG 1.0 SVG 1.1 SVG 1.1 Tiny
SVG
> 1.1 Basic SMIL 1.0 SMIL 2.0
> Root Element: html
> Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
>
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> Validation Output: 2 Errors
> Line 32, Column 6: document type does not allow element "br" here;
assuming
> missing "li" start-tag
> ?
> Line 34, Column 5: end tag for "li" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
> ?
> You may have neglected to close an element, or perhaps you meant to
> "self-close" an element, that is, ending it with "/>" instead of ">".
> Line 32: start tag was here
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Re: [WSG] staff page vallidation
What the hell?
Can someone stop this guy from spamming??
I opened my emails today and I had almost the whole first page of
Google spammed by emails from the group, most of them by this one guy,
please do something about this.
Thanks,
Krystian
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
> hi.
> can you help me out.
> sorry for this.
> marvin.
>
> Markup Validation Service
> Check the markup (HTML, XHTML, .) of Web documents
>
> Jump To:Validation Output
> Errors found while checking this document as XHTML 1.0 Transitional!
> Result: 2 Errors
> File:
> Use the file selection box above if you wish to re-validate the uploaded
> file
> C:\Docs\Tafe\CertificateFourWebsites\CertFour\PrinciplesOfVisualDesign\PrinciplesOfVisualDesign\html\staff.html
>
> Encoding: iso-8859-1 (detect automatically) utf-8 (Unicode, worldwide)
> utf-16 (Unicode, worldwide) iso-8859-1 (Western Europe) iso-8859-2 (Central
> Europe) iso-8859-3 (Southern Europe) iso-8859-4 (North European) iso-8859-5
> (Cyrillic) iso-8859-6-i (Arabic) iso-8859-7 (Greek) iso-8859-8 (Hebrew,
> visual) iso-8859-8-i (Hebrew, logical) iso-8859-9 (Turkish) iso-8859-10
> (Latin 6) iso-8859-11 (Latin/Thai) iso-8859-13 (Latin 7, Baltic Rim)
> iso-8859-14 (Latin 8, Celtic) iso-8859-15 (Latin 9) iso-8859-16 (Latin 10)
> us-ascii (basic English) euc-jp (Japanese, Unix) shift_jis (Japanese,
> Win/Mac) iso-2022-jp (Japanese, email) euc-kr (Korean) gb2312 (Chinese,
> simplified) gb18030 (Chinese, simplified) big5 (Chinese, traditional)
> Big5-HKSCS (Chinese, Hong Kong) tis-620 (Thai) koi8-r (Russian) koi8-u
> (Ukrainian) iso-ir-111 (Cyrillic KOI-8) macintosh (MacRoman) windows-1250
> (Central Europe) windows-1251 (Cyrillic) windows-1252 (Western Europe)
> windows-1253 (Greek) windows-1254 (Turkish) windows-1255 (Hebrew)
> windows-1256 (Arabic) windows-1257 (Baltic Rim)
> Doctype: XHTML 1.0 Transitional (detect automatically) HTML5 (experimental)
> XHTML 1.0 Strict XHTML 1.0 Transitional XHTML 1.0 Frameset HTML 4.01 Strict
> HTML 4.01 Transitional HTML 4.01 Frameset HTML 3.2 HTML 2.0 ISO/IEC
> 15445:2000 ("ISO HTML") XHTML 1.1 XHTML + RDFa XHTML Basic 1.0 XHTML Basic
> 1.1 XHTML Mobile Profile 1.2 XHTML-Print 1.0 XHTML 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 XHTML
> 1.1 plus MathML 2.0 plus SVG 1.1 MathML 2.0 SVG 1.0 SVG 1.1 SVG 1.1 Tiny SVG
> 1.1 Basic SMIL 1.0 SMIL 2.0
> Root Element: html
> Root Namespace: http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
>
> The W3C CSS validator is developed with assistance from the Mozilla
> Foundation, and supported by community donations.
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> Validation Output: 2 Errors
> Line 32, Column 6: document type does not allow element "br" here; assuming
> missing "li" start-tag
> ?
> Line 34, Column 5: end tag for "li" omitted, but OMITTAG NO was specified
> ?
> You may have neglected to close an element, or perhaps you meant to
> "self-close" an element, that is, ending it with "/>" instead of ">".
> Line 32: start tag was here
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