[WSG] left float div and background colours

2004-04-20 Thread Stephen Farrugia
Hi, does anyone know why:A div with a float:left attribute will make the background colour of its surrounding div turn transparent in mozilla and just about every browser except IE?

Re: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

2004-04-20 Thread Tim Lucas
Peter Ottery spoke the following wise words on 20/04/2004 10:27 AM EST: hiya, we relaunched theage.com.au today with improved markup and a css layout. http://theage.com.au/ Peter, once again my hat goes off to the f2 team. One interesting choice , I noticed, was in the print style sheet where

Re: [WSG] CSS 3-col draft: Request for opinion

2004-04-20 Thread Cb2 Web Design
Hello List, After doing the homework (thanks to James Ellis and an excellent tutorial from him about the subject) I think I have managed to create a solid 3-col layout using CSS. It is here: http://www.apex-ethics.com/ (OT) This site belongs to an ethics organization (APEX, Association for

Re: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

2004-04-20 Thread James Ellis
Nice one It's great to see such a large site being discussed openly on the list. Other than what has been discussed, the only I thing I can see is the markup: p class=standardsNote strongNote:/strong You are reading this message either because you can not see our css files, or because you do

[WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Budd
Just wanted to say how cool the Web Essentials 04 conference looks. http://we04.com/ It's defiantly something I'd love to attend. Shame it's on the other side of the world. I assume all the aussie developers on the list are planning to be there. Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/

RE: [WSG] CSS 3-col draft: Request for opinion

2004-04-20 Thread Manuel González Noriega
El mar, 20-04-2004 a las 12:41, Bert escribió: I am using the background bullet technique. Can't help you on the server issue (other than to make the image bigger so the server WILL serve it) but what is the background bullet technique? Can't you use a list-style-image?

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Neerav
Im a Sydneysider and would love to attend but as a Freelancer the cost VS benefit just doesnt make sense for me :-( -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy Andy Budd wrote: Just wanted to say how cool the Web Essentials 04 conference looks. http://we04.com/ It's

[WSG] Some links for reading...

2004-04-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
WestCiv have just started their free course program again, kicking off with HTML and XHTML for CSS. Great stuff as always... http://www.westciv.com/courses/free/index.html An exercise in clarity: Web Standards http://www.37signals.com/svn/archives/000648.php?54 456 Berea Street - Developing

Re: [WSG] CSS 3-col draft: Request for opinion

2004-04-20 Thread Cb2 Web Design
Hi Bert, You said: What about all those nested divs - not as bad as (shudder) nested tables, but is it necessary? - Not that bad at all, see Nested DIVs, nested TABLEs, what's the difference? at (1). Anyway, and this way, I have dealt with the box model problem in IE without hacks (I think). As

RE: [WSG] compliant version of the following????

2004-04-20 Thread theGrafixGuy
Cancel that - figured it out - CAPS on the meta :-) time to go to bed :-/ -Original Message- From: theGrafixGuy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 5:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] compliant version of the following I am working on my site and am

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Simon Jessey
- Original Message - From: Andy Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Web Essentials 04 Just wanted to say how cool the Web Essentials 04 conference looks. http://we04.com/ It's defiantly something I'd love to attend. Shame it's on the other side of the world. I second that. I

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
Well... The cat is out of the bag now... Although we let Sydney members know about the conference at the last meeting, we have been keeping a bit quite about it till the online registration is up and running, which will be within the next few days. We are incredibly excited about this conference

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Budd
For a 2 day conference, the registration costs seem pretty reasonable. And I assume, like the UK, if you're running your own business, the costs would be tax deductible. Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Some links for reading...

2004-04-20 Thread Simon Jessey
One of the comments left on the site for that article made me spill Diet Coke everywhere. Too funny: CSS is an arcane, poorly implemented technology that reacts very differently not only on different platforms and different browsers, but also on different versions of the same browser on the same

[WSG] Notes from recent Sydney WSG meeting

2004-04-20 Thread russ - maxdesign
Last week we held another Sydney WSG meeting, with guest presenters David Woodbridge and Robert Spriggs. It was a great meeting with 45 people attending - our biggest turnout yet. Talking to people afterwards, it seems there a lot of good information presented. For some people it was the first

[WSG] Attribute wrap not allowed in text areas

2004-04-20 Thread theGrafixGuy
What is the recommended replacement when using a textarea? Thanks Brian * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Ok, I'm a full-time student, and as such, I'm full-time broke :( I'm VERY keen to attend this seminar, and I'm wondering if any other students want to band together and try for some kind of group discount? Email me if you're interested... Andrew.

Re: [WSG] Attribute wrap not allowed in text areas

2004-04-20 Thread Justin French
On 21/04/2004, at 12:33 AM, theGrafixGuy wrote: What is the recommended replacement when using a textarea? I haven't replaced it with anything... just got rid of it, which has been fine for me, since I used wrap='virtual', which seems to be the default behaviour for every browser I'm testing...

[WSG] Help in web-standards Flash insert code

2004-04-20 Thread Andy Clarke
Comrades It's not very often I fire up Flash, but today has been one of those 'rusty' days. Can anyone please help in converting this tag mess into standards-compliant code for inserting a swf into my page? div id=Flash object classid=clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354

RE: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

2004-04-20 Thread Peter Ottery
Title: RE: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design Hi Tim, re I noticed, was in the print style sheet where you've set a 600px width for #content. Shouldn't you be letting the UA set it's own margins for printing? yep, guilty as charged, in a mad rush i put that in as a quick solution (opera

Re: [WSG] Attribute wrap not allowed in text areas

2004-04-20 Thread James Ellis
Umm off the top of my head you could try overflow : auto; HTH Cheers James theGrafixGuy wrote: What is the recommended replacement when using a textarea? Thanks Brian * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Help in web-standards Flash insert code

2004-04-20 Thread James Ellis
Andy Some links: (not meaning to beat my drum, but..) http://www.sitepoint.com/articlelist/300 and... http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/ and... http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1081798064count=1 HTH James Andy Clarke wrote: Comrades It's not very often I fire up Flash, but today has

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Tim Lucas
Andrew Krespanis spoke the following wise words on 21/04/2004 12:46 AM EST: Ok, I'm a full-time student, and as such, I'm full-time broke :( I'm VERY keen to attend this seminar, and I'm wondering if any other students want to band together and try for some kind of group discount? Email me if

RE: [WSG] 'Big, dumb web standards'

2004-04-20 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 09:25:50 -0400, Chatham, Will wrote: He has obviously never tried to code a standards-based web page using CSS, or that article would never have been written. Actually, I would suggest he has tried writing css, but without any support (eg this list) to get him past that

RE: [WSG] Browser testing across Windows OS's

2004-04-20 Thread Taco Fleur
http://www.browsercam.com -Original Message- From: Miles Tillinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2004 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Browser testing across Windows OS's hmm, nobody wants to help or give away their secret strategies? or nobody

RE: [WSG] Browser testing across Windows OS's

2004-04-20 Thread Benjamin
heya Miles, at work I have 2 computers infront of me. I have a pc which I do all of my interface development on. I also have ie5, 5.5 and 6 installed and running side by side, with ns6.2 open. the browser that I develop in is firefox. 99% of the time if it works in firefox it works right across

RE: [WSG] Browser testing across Windows OS's

2004-04-20 Thread Nick Cowie
I have tested projects in the past on IE5.5 across Windows 98, NT4 and Win2k boxes with no noticeable differences. These projects have included basic javascript and flash. So now I just test on one PC (Win2k) running IE4, IE5, IE5.5, IE 6, NS3 (great for testing how a page works with no CSS

Re: [WSG] Web Essentials 04

2004-04-20 Thread Cameron Adams
Can I get a dollar discount for every newbie question I answer on this mail list? -- Cameron W: www.themaninblue.com That's gonna have to be one helluva discount! ;) -- tim __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos: High-quality 4x6

Re: [WSG] Ten Questions for Eric Meyer - a WSG interview

2004-04-20 Thread Chris Blown
Nice work Russ.. keep them coming! Eric's level headed attitude never fails to impress. Regards Chris Blown http://hinterlands.com.au On Wed, 2004-04-21 at 13:01, russ - maxdesign wrote: Hi all, Announcing an exciting addition to the WSG site. I have been interviewing a range of high profile

RE: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

2004-04-20 Thread Peter Ottery
Title: RE: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design James wrote: It's great to see such a large site being discussed openly on the list. agreed. feels a bit weird - but hey, we're one big happy family right? ;-) Other than what has been discussed, the only I thing I can see is the markup: p

Re: [WSG] theage.com.au: new design

2004-04-20 Thread James Ellis
Yeah, taxidermy's the best option for them ... the NS4 people who have raised your site is broken with me upgraded to Net 7. Ooh it works. That said, I did have a user complain that the site was slow on their 2.4 kb modem the other day, truly. I thought about buying a 56k modem for them.