Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Ryan Christie
Amit Karmakar wrote: The site: http://www.maysvillerotary.org CSS: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/assets/styles/maysvillerotary.css It's pretty late over here, and I only brushed over the stuff but #navcontainer { float: left; width: 199px; border-right: 1px solid #B4D3DC; padding: 0 0 1em 0;

Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Jose Florido
Hello! This is my first message to the list, first of all, sorry my bad english, I'm spanish. The site seems to be working fine in most browsers except IE6. Bloody IE Any help to get it working in IE v6/Win would be appreciated. People on macs would you mind giving me your feedback too.

Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Stratford
They are right - you dont need width: 100% the only adverse effect that will have - now you wont see the HOVER Effect unless you hover over the TEXT and not the BOX in IE ONLY... Most other browsers this will work still... NOTE: Im only fairly sure what I said is true. I have been in

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
Thanks Jose works like a charm! Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jose Florido Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6 Hello! This is my first

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
Thanks Ryan! Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Christie Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Help with IE 6 Amit Karmakar wrote: The site:

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
You now have a problem that it doesnt look correct in IE5 without the 100% So maybe do something like in the actual page: !--[if IE 5] style type=text/css media=screen#navcontainer li a{width: 100%;}/style![endif]-- Cheers Jeff Lowder Accessibility 1st Ph: 02 9570 9875

[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

2004-06-07 Thread Mark Harwood
Im starting to create a Fluid CSS design, which im finding to be quite and arse in IE... But anyways, i've got the basic layout created, but i would now like to have a min-width, but just cant think of a way of getting it to work in IE. So what im asking is... Does anyone know a min-width work

[WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

2004-06-07 Thread Mark Stanton
http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help

Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

2004-06-07 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/7/04 1:26 AM Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE So people don't actually answer questions here, they perform google searches for you? Cool! ;-) Rick Faaberg * The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
well its not bad to perform a search for you :P On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 01:35:46 -0700, Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 6/7/04 1:26 AM Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: http://www.google.com/search?q=min-width+IE So people don't actually answer questions here, they

Re: [WSG] What Editors do you guys use?

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
WinSyntax for winsucks BlueFish for mandrake On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 10:17:55 +1000, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all I have started a new category on the WSG site call Development and design tools. I think at this point it would be a good idea for everyone to login and start

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Russ Weakley - Maxdesign
This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct inside a table. Instead of thinking of ways to convert it into divs, you should be working on implementing accessibility features: id, headers for, summary, caption, etc. A rough example if id's and headers in action is here:

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
thank you Russ you know what! I feel like you are the only one who can understand What web is and what Web standards is heh Thank you mate On Mon, 07 Jun 2004 20:07:57 +1000, Russ Weakley - Maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a perfect example of tabular data - it is semantically correct

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
Thank you guys On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 20:21:36 +1000, Mark Stanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jad That really looks like table data to me so I think its best to keep it in tables. Tables are not evil in and of themselves, in fact they are very useful in cases like yours. Its just when they

RE: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Mike Pepper
Well said, mate. There's no need to convert to divs because you're using a table as it should be used. Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Russ Weakley - Maxdesign

[WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

2004-06-07 Thread Patrick Lauke
Is it just me, or does it take a good quarter of an hour for emails to appear on the list? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University of Salford http://www.salford.ac.uk * The discussion list for

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
winsyntax http://www.WinSyntax.com by the way we are having three threads today for editors :-) On Sun, 06 Jun 2004 21:38:04 +0200, Kristof Neirynck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: noa wrote: Sean M. Hall AKA Dante wrote: As I said before: syntax highlighting and no automatic insertion.

Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

2004-06-07 Thread Jad Madi
hmm seems that things are fine with me On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 11:38:44 +0100, Patrick Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me, or does it take a good quarter of an hour for emails to appear on the list? Patrick Patrick H. Lauke Webmaster / University

RE: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

2004-06-07 Thread Mike Pepper
I'd wondered at that, Pat. At first joining I was double posting. Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer () www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Patrick Lauke Sent: 07 June 2004 11:39 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] OT: time delay for messages to appear on the list

2004-06-07 Thread Mark Stanton
Guys Please address all issues related to the running of the list to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are really trying to keep the noise on this list down to a mimimum and keep discussion to web standards related issues. If everyone could help it would be great and the list managers wouldn't feel so

[WSG] List daddy lecture time (speaking of grumpy list managers)

2004-06-07 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi everyone, Please reply directly to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOT the list. If need be I'll post relevant discussion somewhere. At the bottom of all posts (well most as it doesn't get added when people send horrible HTML email) there is a link to the guidelines. The link is

[WSG] Many Browers in one place

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
People, My apologoes in advance if this has been discussed earlier. I know there are sites that let you test your sites on different browsers(browsers, version, OS). Something like http://browsers.evolt.org/, www.danvine.com/iecapture/ but are there softwares (online or offline) that lets users

Re: [WSG] Many Browers in one place

2004-06-07 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
VMware is my second bet or Virtual PC Camz - Original Message - From: Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: [WSG] Many Browers in one place People, My apologoes in advance if this has been discussed earlier. I know

RE: [WSG] Many Browers in one place

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
Hmmm, neither seem free though :( http://www.browsercam.com/ http://www.vmware.com/ Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Stanton Sent: Monday, 7 June 2004 10:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
I tried to add a 'sublevel' to the exisiting lists in order to bring out the second level. Works fine in Opera/Win Mozilla/Win But shows gaps in IE in the subnavlists. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks people. URL: http://www.maysvillerotary.org/testindex.htm CSS

[WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies

2004-06-07 Thread Martin Chapman
Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc. However, NS6 is simply a mess. Have scoured the web but always draw a blank. Kind regards Martin Chapman Fromm -- Web development, identity and

RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies

2004-06-07 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies What's the problem though captain? Jamie Mason: Design -Original Message- From: Martin Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 June 2004 16:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All Anyone got any decent

RE: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies

2004-06-07 Thread Mike Foskett
Martin, Be careful with DocTypes. NS6 adds white-space after objects. Anymore than that I'd need an example url. mike 2k:)2 -Original Message- From: Martin Chapman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 June 2004 16:45 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All

Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies

2004-06-07 Thread Jeff
From: Martin Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/06/07 Mon AM 11:44:41 EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies Hi All Anyone got any decent pointers for Netscape 6 CSS problems? I'm finalising a site works great in IE6, 5.5, 5, NS7, Safari, Mozilla etc. etc.

[WSG] Unordered list problem on IE5.2Mac

2004-06-07 Thread Ryan Christie
Hi list :) I've got every other quirk squashed except this unordered list one. Is there a way to reposition the unordered list while keeping the square bullets where they're supposed to be, or will I have to fake this with a background image? I've gotten the text to move where it's supposed to

[WSG] Ten questions for Dan Cederholm

2004-06-07 Thread Russ Weakley - Maxdesign
Dan Cederholm is the author of Web Standards Solutions: The Markup and Style Handbook as well as many articles on standards-based design for publications such as A List Apart . Dan also runs the popular weblog SimpleBits , where he writes articles and commentary on the web, technology and life.

[WSG] Non-linking printable text in Navigation Lists

2004-06-07 Thread RC Pierce
Is there a trick that I haven't learned yet with regard to WAI Recommendation 10.5; to wit: 10.5 Until user agents (including assistive technologies) render adjacent links distinctly, include non-link, printable characters (surrounded by spaces) between adjacent links. [Priority 3] The reason

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread RC Pierce
One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? If I have gathered correctly what Russ and others said in the linearization thread, would it make more sense to have the columnar data in the rows, and vice-versa? That way, when the data is linearized, it will flow

RE: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Patrick Lauke
One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? In the case of properly coded (read: with correct table headings, scope, etc) data tables, meaningful linearisation should be taken care of by the user agent. Don't worry about it...this should not, in my view anyway,

RE: [WSG] Non-linking printable text in Navigation Lists

2004-06-07 Thread Patrick Lauke
This is arguably an obsolete rule. I would posit that it does not apply to cases in which links are contained within completely separate block level elements (e.g. unordered lists' items). It is, however, good practice to still use some sort of separator (pipe, or even a non-breaking space

Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies

2004-06-07 Thread James Ellis
Hi Netscape 6 is not a stable browser, it's built off Mozilla alpha code (i.e about 0.9) (v7 is a branch off Mozilla 1.1, I believe). There is a thread on this topic about a month or two back with some links to the Mozilla roadmap - try a search at mail-archive.com The 6 was put in for

Re: [WSG] Which *free* editors do you guys recommend?

2004-06-07 Thread James Ellis
Hi As I posted before, let's put these up on the WSG website, not on the list. An archive would contribute better to the group and are the posts are now tending to just take up bandwidth now on the list as we are just getting a pile of emails with links in them. Cheers James Jad Madi wrote:

RE: [WSG] Help with IE 6

2004-06-07 Thread Amit Karmakar
Henry, Weird, but it works!! Thanks for helping me out. Appreciate that. http://www.maysvillerotary.org/testindex.htm Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Henry Tapia Sent: Tuesday, 8 June 2004

[WSG] Ordered list mark-up

2004-06-07 Thread CHAUDHRY, Bhuvnesh
Title: Ordered list mark-up Hi guys, I was wondering if you could tell me how to mark-up an ordered list using CSS so that the bullets are enclosed in parenthesis, e.g. (a) Text piece 1 (b) Whatever Thanks Bhuvnesh Chaudhry

Re: [WSG] Min-Width IE Workaround ?

2004-06-07 Thread Chris Blown
Thats funny Mark.. I happened to hit Froogle by accident after following that link and look what I found.. http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=min-width%20IEhl=enlr=ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wf Good to see Westciv in there. eh John? Regards Chris Blown On Mon, 2004-06-07 at 18:26, Mark Stanton wrote:

Re: [WSG] NS6 indiscrepancies - (interesting subject line)

2004-06-07 Thread JonathanC
Indiscrepancies = cross between indiscretions and discrepancies? :-) Jonathan Cooper Manager of Information / Website Art Gallery of New South Wales Sydney, Australia http://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au * The discussion list for

RE: [WSG] Ordered list mark-up

2004-06-07 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Well, the specs appear to have provision for it. Unfortunately the vast majority of browsers do not (yet) seem to support it. !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN HTML HEAD TITLEContent alignment in the marker box/TITLE STYLE type=text/css LI:before {

Re: [WSG] getting ride of table layout

2004-06-07 Thread Lea de Groot
On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 16:07:36 -0600, RC Pierce wrote: One question, though: When this table is linearized will it still make sense? snip nbsp; = Disk Space = Bandwidth = c.; = Bronze = 400 MB = 7 GB = c.; = Silver = c.; = Gold = c.; = Platinum = c.; I haven't looked at the source of the

[WSG] IE 7 Promo Images

2004-06-07 Thread Sean M. Hall (Dante)
Title: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images Hey guys. Yerba Buena Web Design (my own small design agency, which hasn't even officially opened yet) has created two IE 7 Promo Images. Dean Edwards modified the first one (to fit his layout and design) and made it the official IE 7 Logo.

Re: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images

2004-06-07 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Title: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images Im having trouble understanding how you think IE7 would be broken?! I wouldnt abuse IE7 to be broken without it actually being released yet. It might shock you ;) Microsoft have said their putting more time and manpower into IE7 than previous versions...

ADMIN - OT Re: [WSG] IE 7 Promo Images

2004-06-07 Thread Lea de Groot
On 8 Jun 2004 03:39:27 +, Sean M. Hall (Dante) wrote: I'd like your opinion on these two images (please remember that I'm a beginner at design). Could replies to Sean on this topic please go directly to him? Sean, This is not a general web/ graphic design list, perhaps you'd like to go

[WSG] new window losing it's anchor place

2004-06-07 Thread Phillips, Wendy
I'm using the recommended accessible way to open a new browser window (yes, I know but it's an elearning module and we have to link out to internal content so learners can view reference material without losing their place, plus they are quite used to this method). However, I'm finding that if

RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place

2004-06-07 Thread Jeff Lowder - Accessibility 1st
Title: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Hi Wendy 1. Where is #how_work on the page? 2. You should also add onkeypress=window.open(this.href, 'popupwindow', 'toolbar=yes,location=yes,status=yes,menubar=yes,scrollbars=yes,resizable=yes,width=300,height=300'); return false; just

RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place

2004-06-07 Thread Phillips, Wendy
Title: RE: [WSG] new window losing it's anchor place Not sure how onkeypress would interfere with other similar links on the page - the link can be tabbed to and therefore works via keyboard only. The page that opens in the new window has a number of anchor links - this is just one of