Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/15/04 12:45 AM "Rick Faaberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: > www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ > > Camz >> >>> I meant to say "I get the scrollbars but no arrow buttons to use for >>> scrolling." >>> >>> Rick Faaberg >> >> Can you use your wheel

[WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Andy Budd
Here's a quick (and probably stupid) accessibility question regarding screen readers. Search I assume the a screen reader will read this out as "Search" and not "S earch". Andy Budd http://www.message.uk.com/ * The discussion list for http://w

[WSG] FW: OZeWAI Dec 1-3, 2004 CFP

2004-06-15 Thread Ralph
Hi all I came across the following from W3C's WAI Interest Group email list. Costs are as follows: All 3 days: $400 for full registration ($300 for student registration) Day Pass: $150 for daily registration (incl GST.). (so $300 for 2 days, $150 for 1 day) Its in Melbourne and one of the speak

RE: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Patrick Lauke
Tested with JAWS 4.02, and yes, it reads it as "search". That's not to say, though, that all screenreaders behave this way... Let me guess...underlines for accesskeys ? One thing that worries me about doing those sorts of things is that the result is very...non semantic. Not sure how, say, search

Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Andy Budd
Patrick Lauke wrote: Tested with JAWS 4.02, and yes, it reads it as "search". That's not to say, though, that all screenreaders behave this way... Let me guess...underlines for accesskeys ? That's the fella One thing that worries me about doing those sorts of things is that the result is very...non

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread James Ellis
Chris I use overflow : auto; to display text that requires its whitespace to be preserved - i.e the headers of an email message and the source of an email message. It's a fantastic thing in this instance, but don't go too wild - it can lead to confusion about what scrollbar needs to be used, a

[WSG] Very odd behaviour on IE5 Mac. Any ideas?

2004-06-15 Thread Joe Leech
Hello WSG, I'm having very strange problems with the site I'm working on. I've been given the unenviable task of going through someone else's CSS to fix any bugs in IE 5 Mac & PC. Fixed the IE5 PC bugs but am stuck with this odd behaviour in IE5 Mac. Basically the content in the left hand box

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread Chris
Hi, It works in my safari :) On Monday, June 14, 2004, at 11:21 PM, t94xr.net.nz webmaster wrote: excellent example www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/   Camz - Original Message - From: Chris To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 5:10 PM Subject: [WSG] overflow: auto; Hi, I the proce

[WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Chris
Hi, A solution that borders divine. Dynamic Text Replacement http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/ Hot Like Wasabi, Chris

Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Richard Rutter
On 15 Jun 2004, at 12:34, Andy Budd wrote: I agree with you. It's not the nicest way of doing this. I think using the :first-letter pseudo-element selector would probably be a better bet. Much neater, until you need accesskeys for both Search and Services of course. I'm sure some clever person

Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Richard Rutter
On 15 Jun 2004, at 17:55, Richard Rutter wrote: Anyone fancy a bit of fun making that work? Would it actually be useful? If you want something doing... A script which uses the DOM to automatically underline the letter of a link text which matches its accesskey: http://clagnut.com/sandbox/dynamic

RE: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Mike Pepper
Hey, that looks interesting, Richard. You got me thinking. Nice one :o) Mike Pepper (thoughtful) Accessible Web Developer www.seowebsitepromotion.com www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Richard Rutter Sent: 15 June 2004 22:15 To: [

Re: [WSG] Very odd behaviour on IE5 Mac. Any ideas?

2004-06-15 Thread James Ellis
Hi Try hiding the CSS from this magnificent piece of "software" by using the \*/ hack as outlined elsewhere in a thread here (try mail-archive.com) - it's called the backslash hack, It's the only hack I've employed as users on OS 8 and 9 have no upgrade path. Does tend to bloat the CSS a tad as

[WSG] IE:Mac clears float for no apparent reason

2004-06-15 Thread Viktor Radnai
Hi all, I have redesigned a site from Dreamweaver table city to XHTML 1.0 strict. It's mostly gone well, but Internet Explorer 5.2 for Mac has a couple of issues. The one I'm trying to solve right now is apparent on this page: http://www.organicdance.com.au/organicdance/site/about It seems that

Re: [WSG] Very odd behaviour on IE5 Mac. Any ideas?

2004-06-15 Thread Hugh Todd
Joe, Don't know if this will help at all, and I haven't looked closely at the code (I don't envy your job there at all!) but it does look as though whatever it is has a cumulative effect. So each time you roll over a link, the affected left hand margin items jump down the same distance again. T

Re: [WSG] Quick accessibility question

2004-06-15 Thread Hugh Todd
Andy, Just tried it with a preview version of Apple's Spoken Interface in Safari. I stuck your code into the middle of a standard form element to see what would happen, and it read it as "S" "earch". I'd be interested to know why (how the reader determines what to read and how). -Hugh Todd Here

[WSG] Out of Office AutoReply: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

2004-06-15 Thread Cline, Lezli
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Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Kay Smoljak
Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Dynamic Text Replacement > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/ The php image stuff is fair enough, but I've not been impressed with JavaScript Image Replacement as a technique - when I was evaluating it, I seemed to get the unstyled version a lot of the

Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Marc Greenstock
This method uses GD, which unfortunately is the only bundled graphics library available in php. GD is fine for most purposes, it can be a little memory intensive at times though. The problem here is that the function imagegettfbbox() is sometimes unpredictable and may not get the correct height and

Re: [WSG] IE:Mac clears float for no apparent reason

2004-06-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Jun 16, 2004, at 9:58 am, Viktor Radnai wrote: I have redesigned a site from Dreamweaver table city to XHTML 1.0 strict. It's mostly gone well, but Internet Explorer 5.2 for Mac has a couple of issues. The one I'm trying to solve right now is apparent on this page: http://www.organicdance.com

RE: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Bert Doorn
Whatever the technique, using images for headings is, to me, backward, "pixel perfect", print thinking. I visited the site - I only have a modem connection. I dind't like the way the headings disappeared, got replaced with image placeholders which slwly filled up with text that was there in

Re: [WSG] Very odd behaviour on IE5 Mac. Any ideas?

2004-06-15 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
It is a combination of javascript show/hide thingies and having absolute positioned blocks in the middle of the source code. A possible workaround is move the whole code block(s) for those submenus either to the very beginning of the page, or at the very end. Philippe On Jun 16, 2004, at 10:52

RE: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Jeremy S. @ WSG
I took a look at the example page, and in FireFox .9 and a broadband connection, it took a good couple of seconds before the images showed up properly. I was considering using some sort of image replacement for my new design of my journal, and I was highly considering this one. But I'm really not s

Re: [WSG] file extensions

2004-06-15 Thread Sam Walker
On Jun 12, 2004, at 6:27 PM, Christopher Kennon wrote: ... Interestingly, there really is little value to including file extensions such as gif, . jpg , .js, and so on. The browser does not rely on these values to render a page; rather it uses the MIME type header in the response. Knowing this,

Re: [WSG] Must Read

2004-06-15 Thread Lea de Groot
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:45:40 -0700, Chris wrote: > Dynamic Text Replacement > http://www.alistapart.com/articles/dynatext/ "Most sites that replace text with images do so using hand-made images, which isn’t so terrible when there are a set number of headings, but it quickly becomes unmanageable

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/14/04 11:54 PM "Rick Faaberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: >> excellent example >> www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ >> >> Camz >> >> >> Doesn't work in Safari, though? >> >> Rick Faaberg >> >> Which Safari? Works OK in 1.0.2 on 10.2.8... >> Nick > > 1.

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
Title: Re: [WSG] overflow: auto; Doesnt it?!   http://www.danvine.com/icapture/detail/51923.html works ok on iCapture?    

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread t94xr.net.nz webmaster
> >> www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ > >> > >> Camz > I meant to say "I get the scrollbars but no arrow buttons to use for > scrolling." > > Rick Faaberg Can you use your wheel on the mouse? Camz * The discussion

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread Rick Faaberg
Title: Re: [WSG] overflow: auto; On 6/15/04 12:18 AM "t94xr.net.nz webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: Doesnt it?! http://www.danvine.com/icapture/detail/51923.html works ok on iCapture? Do we know they have 1.2.2? It still doesn't work on my 1.2.2 (v125.8), that's for sure. Ric

Re: [WSG] HTML, CSS and Mobiles

2004-06-15 Thread Mordechai Peller
Lachlan Hardy wrote: Chris Stratford wrote: So its incorrectly loading the media for SCREEN... and wont load CSS from one method either... This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS properly yet, and many of those who do don't create "handheld" CSS, b

Re: [WSG] overflow: auto;

2004-06-15 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 6/15/04 12:29 AM "t94xr.net.nz webmaster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent this out: www.t94xr.net.nz/plinks/ Camz > >> I meant to say "I get the scrollbars but no arrow buttons to use for >> scrolling." >> >> Rick Faaberg > > Can you use your wheel